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26. November 2008 @ 10:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
That's a long time ago, I'm going to guess at 2002 for build date. You may find it hard getting hold of replacement bits for that system for cheap.
Yes, I got it for Christmas in 2002. I'm not looking to replace anything in this system.
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Ah sorry, I was confusing threads, I thought you were the guy that needed to replace a part in an old PC. My mistake.



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In all probability there will be many unusable parts. I've worked with a lot of Dell towers and they like HP units are not as easily recycled because the use a proprietary layout. A $50 coolermaster case and a $50 650 watt antec power supply should suffice.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...&Tpk=17-371-015


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119104

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Wow 100 dollar quad cores? That makes it very tempting.


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Wow 100 dollar quad cores? That makes it very tempting.
And with an unlocked clock multiplier. I'm already checking out some low end boards with lots of extra PCie X16 slots to build a folding rig. I figure 4 9600GSo cards should do it.

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Yeah but I looked at some benchmarks and the max they can OC it too is 2.7ish. I can pick up a Q6600 for 30 dollars more and OC that to 3.4ghz easy.
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and mhz for mhz that Core 2 will be slightly faster. But is it faster enough to be worth double the cost? It's certainly worth thinking about.



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100 vs 130= double the cost?
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id think so......


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I'm curious, where are you buying a Q6600 for $135? The best I've seen is in the $170 to $180 range, and I'm hearing that the Phenom 9600 is hitting 3GHz. Donald of course just purchased it because he wanted a board with 4 PCIe 16 slots to stack with 8800Gs or 9600GSo cards for folding.

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I thought they were $190...



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Chui2k8,
You might want to check here as it sounds like you want to do pretty much what I do with a computer. There are a number of very good builds listed in the AMD Thread for under $350, even a Quad core!
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/5/719940
greensman posted a 4850e dual core for under $300 that would fit all your needs. This is for the whole console. Add a 22" Sceptre Naga LCD Widescreen (1680x1050), and you are right around $500! Amazing! Even if you treat yourself to a new mouse and keyboard you will be way under your budget and everything will be brand new.

This is what I plan on building as soon as I can get my E6750 sold.

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1239/dealuw9.jpg

For me, with all the Encoding with DVDRB/CCE it will be pretty ideal, and I don't have to overclock if I don't want to. I already have a stock CPU cooler, and with the 4850e at 45 watts and great airflow with the case, I should be in pretty good shape.

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I'm talking used ones. I know it's not too terribly fair but it's easy to get used ones and the old ones OC better anyway. I can't find any 9600 used.

But yeah people on computer forums sell their Q6600s all the time. And they have them Stable at 3.6Ghz and stuff on P35 boards.
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@Russ

well brother playing around with this board and the voltage
I got up to 4.5ghz did'nt to much care for the voltages and
did'nt pass orthos but now at 4.1ghz it did the voltage setting
are way different than Gigabyte boards on this board at 4.1
the setting gotta atlease be at:

Vcore: +.200
Vdimm: +.150
Chipset : either +300 or +.325
fsb: auto
cpu gtlref1: 67%
cpu gtlref2: 63%
pll: 1.5

cpu clock skew:200psf

now those setting surpose to for 4.4ghz at 1.384v
but only worked a 4.1ghz at 490x8.5

Screen Shot after 45mins of stress

Sandra shot of a stress test at same setting but it's reading 4.4ghz that's stranges can you explain that?



testing at 4.0ghz with orthos now lowered the vcore to +.150
stress temps at 54c and core voltage at 1.344v lookin pretty
good be back with results

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I'm talking used ones. I know it's not too terribly fair but it's easy to get used ones and the old ones OC better anyway. I can't find any 9600 used.
Could you provide a link to some of those used Q6600?

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Got anymore? Because for your claim of being able to get one for $135 to be viable anyone should be able to get one within a reasonable time frame. Anyone can grab a 9600 right now so where can I grab a Q6600 for $135 right now?

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Uhh, I was just talking about myself. I just linked four of them. Microcenter had a sale where they were selling Q6600s for 105 and some motherboard.
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hmm! I window shop microcenter everyday looking for deals on Vid cards, processors, memory, and motherboards and I have never seen a Q6600 for less than $180, certainly not for $105!!!

My point is simple! If you are challenging the price of an item that was posted by someone else with another item that you claim is a better item for about the same price, then you had better be able to show that it can also be just as easily purchased. To do otherwise is to pollute the thread with non information which in turn confuses the daylights out of first time or inexperienced members. It is also a waste of time for those of us who have experience but are left to try to explain it. Then newbies are left to go wandering off into the wilderness looking for the Holy Grail!!


You still aren't showing anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by bigwill68:
@Russ

well brother playing around with this board and the voltage
I got up to 4.5ghz did'nt to much care for the voltages and
did'nt pass orthos but now at 4.1ghz it did the voltage setting
are way different than Gigabyte boards on this board at 4.1
the setting gotta atlease be at:

Vcore: +.200
Vdimm: +.150
Chipset : either +300 or +.325
fsb: auto
cpu gtlref1: 67%
cpu gtlref2: 63%
pll: 1.5

cpu clock skew:200psf

now those setting surpose to for 4.4ghz at 1.384v
but only worked a 4.1ghz at 490x8.5

Screen Shot after 45mins of stress

Sandra shot of a stress test at same setting but it's reading 4.4ghz that's stranges can you explain that?



testing at 4.0ghz with orthos now lowered the vcore to +.150
stress temps at 54c and core voltage at 1.344v lookin pretty
good be back with results

bigwill,
Looking good! I wouldn't be looking for much nore than 4.0GHz anyway for daily use. Not without water cooling, anyway!

Best Regards,
Russ


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bigwill,
Looking good! I wouldn't be looking for much nore than 4.0GHz anyway for daily use. Not without water cooling, anyway!

Best Regards,
Russ

Well Russ your right about that..I'll hold here at 4.0ghz..I just
stressed again after just 2 hours and it passed with flying colors loving the core voltage here a few snap shots..

screen shot of orthos

and your favorite Sandra..lol

Temps only got up to 53c under stress that's great in my book:)next build will be water cooled for sure haf932

Oop's I almost forgot this test 2:)



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Originally posted by bigwill68:
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Russ Wrote:

bigwill,
Looking good! I wouldn't be looking for much nore than 4.0GHz anyway for daily use. Not without water cooling, anyway!

Best Regards,
Russ

Well Russ your right about that..I'll hold here at 4.0ghz..I just
stressed again after just 2 hours and it passed with flying colors loving the core voltage here a few snap shots..

screen shot of orthos

and your favorite Sandra..lol

Temps only got up to 53c under stress that's great in my book:)next build will be water cooled for sure haf932

Oop's I almost forgot this test 2:)



Looks good Will! I think a practical limit of 4.0 would be a good thing. First off, the performance difference won't be that great, and it will give you a bit more room for all the variables that come along. Things like room temperature tend to affect temps with an OC more than at stock speeds. You will probably be looking at mid to high 36,000 MIPS, which is plenty. Just for Grins, run the same Sandra benchmark at 4.0-4.1, and I'm pretty sure you won't see a lot of difference in performance. Good luck with it and enjoy!

Best Regards,
Russ


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WTF cant anyone have an original thought of there own???or does everything done have to be copied from what someone else has done or wants to do??????
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