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3. August 2009 @ 07:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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oh I get it now I wasn't reading it properly but still what's with the moved ports??



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Does the PS3 have a switching power supply? It may be that the 110V PSU is different in shape to the 240V PSU.



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Why pay the extra $90 to get 80GB of extra HDD space, Pain and Uncharted? I wouldn't really say it's worth it...

Over here I'm pretty sure the difference is even larger - if you really are getting one, get the 80GB :p If you wait for a deal to pop up you can get it at around £230.



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Does the PS3 have a switching power supply? It may be that the 110V PSU is different in shape to the 240V PSU.
That's what I figured. The PAL and NTSC PS3s must have slightly different internals for the different power requirements.


Come to think of it don't the different types of power in UK vs US affect PSU performance? Voltage ripple must have entirely different characteristics on the different power grids.



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:-) I've solved it myself newer versions feature a 65nm GPU as opposed to the 90nm used in the earlier systems (like mine) it must be something to do with that. The PSU in the PS3 is universal so can be used wherever regardless of voltage and frequency.



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Keith: Yeah that'll be it. The newer xbox 360s also have a smaller PSU, though it's inside the same size power brick, it weighs half as much.

Jeff: It doesn't affect ripple much, but the higher mains voltage means higher efficiency in the UK. A good 85% PSU in the US is typically 88-89% efficient here.



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The systems with the 90nm GPU/90nm CPU and the 90nm GPU/65nm CPU both use a 380w PSU although they only actually use 180w and 135w respectively. Whereas the new 65nm GPU/65nm CPU systems use 280w PSUs and use a mere 110w. A 45nm CPU which would result in 40% reduction of power use over the 65nm is planned which is what has led to all the slim PS3 rumours.



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380W? Hah! I highly doubt it's actually 380W. 180W a.c. draw is about right for the early PS3. The 360s use a 203/175/150W brick respectively, but our 203W console draws about 165W a.c. and my 175W console draws 95W...



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ahh sorry sam i mis read.

so stuff like hadouken you find hard?



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yeah, I managed one once, can't reproduce it.



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LOL its soo easy!

then again 360 dpad = fail. try it on the analogue, from down to towards the person and punch. on a KB its nightmare, but analogue stick work.



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Analog stick, xbox dpad, keyboard, all impossible. I spent about half an hour trying to pull a simple one off then gave up.



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LOL poor Sam is no good at fighters. It's okay man you're still quite decent at L4D and whatnot ;P



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Well, I don't claim to be very good, but there's obviously something I don't understand, pulling off combos in soul calibur is pretty easy. of about 4 or 5 hours gameplay I've pulled off one combo in street fighter...



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Well that's where my "button mashing" comes in handy. Except I don't mash the buttons. I know when I'm kicking, I know when I'm punching, and I know when to block and cancel and counter. My method is simply exploring the move sets of each character. Through trying all combos of punches and kicks you can find which works best for you.



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Kevin - damn nice of Sam to donate a prize like that - does he have my shipping address?

Originally posted by sam:
Analog stick, xbox dpad, keyboard, all impossible. I spent about half an hour trying to pull a simple one off then gave up.

I hear you sam, despite what shaff and jeff and keith have to say. I'm all thumbs when it comes to stuff like that - my reason for never finishing prince of persia - sands of time.

I could never figure out the keyboard and mouse finger moves to swing and jump from one horizontal bar - bounce back against the wall behind - and elevate to the bar above it. "Mierda!" as Zoey says all the time. ("Sh*t!" I now play L4D in spanish.)

To my disbelief that bit of gymnastics was a piece of cake for my 12-year old Mexican buddy, Fernando, lol!
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question for you GPU hounds. i got a chance of getting a GTX 260 for $125. yes its been used. a friend has one and he wants to get a 4850x2 or bigger. he hasnt really used this one(gtx 260) so is $125 a good price for it? ive known this guy for about 16 years so i know he wont sell me something shoddy.
this is the exact one he has
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121321

now next question with it being a ASUS GPU will it play nice mith my GIGABYTE MOBO??????? lmao..
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Yes that's a good price :o

And yes it'll work perfectly fine; your hardware suits it well :)



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ok i have question if u guys can help.I am planning to upgrade my 8600gts to 8800gts or ati 4890 higher in Ati or navidia doesnt matter.I have quad core and mobo is new too,I made pc about 2 years ago but PSu is 500watts.So which gpu will be good in 200 dollar range.i am planning of getting new gpu in October,November.And do i have to upgrade the Psu or 500wattwill be enough.tanks
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Yes it should work fine. I'm no fan of the Matrix cooler, I think it's probably the weakest aftermarket cooling solution, but that level of performance for $125 isn't bad if it's the 216-core version. However, if it's a 192 core version you didn't really save anything as an HD4870, a slightly superior card, can be had for $130 in the right place. Asus cards will work in Gigabyte mobos (I used one this way for about 4 months) but they're often a bit oddly laid out for cooler replacement, not that you may need it.
Dreamer: It all depends what 500W PSU it is. A 500W Corsair could manage 550W - a 500W coolermaster would only be 300-350W. A 500W Raidmax/Rosewill/Logisys/Qtec or any other cheap generic brand might fail at only 120W, and spectacularly so. It also depends what quad core you have. A lightweight core 2 quad will be ok with a lower PSU than an inefficient phenom or core i7 CPU will need. For $200 the best buy is an HD4890 from XFX:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
A very powerful card for the money, it will eat the previously mentioned GTX260 alive. Obviously consider with an 80-95W intel core 2 quad you will want at least a quality 400W PSU for it to be safe, if you use an AMD ideally a 450W, if a core i7, ideally a 500W.




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Haha just did another one of my "charity" builds. Built my best friend a ghetto gaming rig practically for free.

My old 5000+ BE @ 3GHz w/ stock voltage
ASUS M2N nForce 430MCP(die hard board, works flawlessly)
2 x 1GB Mushkin PC6400 CL5-5-5-12
XFX 8600GTS XXX 512MB
cheapest version of the Cooler Master Centurion
SATA DVD-RW
WD Caviar SE 500GB SATA
Antec Earthwatts 380W

He had to pay for the PSU and HDD but the rest was either my old stuff or I got it for free helping people, etc. He's pretty happy with it as he came from a 933MHz P3 with 512MB RAM and a GeForce 4 MX4000 PCI. Blew his frikken mind when I pointed at the pile of parts and was like "pay for a PSU and hard drive and shes yours."

I dunno I can't help but give. It makes me feel good to help people :S



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Originally posted by cincyrob:
question for you GPU hounds. i got a chance of getting a GTX 260 for $125. yes its been used. a friend has one and he wants to get a 4850x2 or bigger. he hasnt really used this one(gtx 260) so is $125 a good price for it? ive known this guy for about 16 years so i know he wont sell me something shoddy.
this is the exact one he has
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121321

now next question with it being a ASUS GPU will it play nice mith my GIGABYTE MOBO??????? lmao..
according to driver heaven, when OCed that card is as good as a GTX 275!

and its passive when in 2d mode and in gaming/ 3d mode it uses its fans.

not bad for $125!



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I don't doubt that when OC'd it does very well. My GTX 260 is an animal. I average very good frame rates in GTA IV. 40-50 there abouts. Which isn't bad for a power hungry game. Although the game is probably more cpu exhaustive. I average roughly 70-80% usage while playing. Rob, you'll like the 260 buddy. Its a moderate gamers delight. And yes, you got a super buy. Assuming of course its 216 cores!!! I don't regret buying my BFG 260 GTX :D I spent 2 hunno on mine LOL! (200$)



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Hey sam. I realize that 2560 x 1600 is in no current danger of being overtaken, but what resolution do you think will be the next standard. I've been pretty absorbed by creating wallpapers, and I wanna go with a more "future proof" standard. You know! :) I realize that nothing is future proof, but I would like some pics to be at least somewhat timeless LOL! I suppose 3200 x 2000 would be a nice round number eh LOL! at least for the 16:10 screens.



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