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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread
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4. August 2009 @ 07:29 |
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Jeff: Not a bad system for old parts lying around. Dunno how much longer the 8600 will last, they seem to dropping like flies lately.
Shaff: and when overclocked the 4890 is as good as a GTX285, your point? Overclocking graphics cards gives marginal performance improvements, and that's effectively what the GTX275 is. When in 2D mode, as far as I can see, one of the fans turns off, but the other remains on, and is very noisy. The reviews I've seen of the matrix cooler found its noise very unpleasant.
Omega: Unless you're planning for at least 5-6 years down the line, there's nothing new on the horizon, but the next potential resolution will be 3840x2160 / 3840x2400.
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4. August 2009 @ 09:46 |
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Jeff: Not a bad system for old parts lying around. Dunno how much longer the 8600 will last, they seem to dropping like flies lately.
Yeah but this one has seen maybe 20-30 hours of gaming in its entire life. It spent most of it idle in a family PC. Meh, if it fails I'll either make it the final home of my die hard X850XT(nobody seems to want to keep it...) or score him a 4670. But right now he's happy with it. Mostly playing L4D, NFSU2, Doom 3, Quake 4, FC2, Halo PC online, nothing way demanding you know?
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4. August 2009 @ 09:47 |
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Quake 4 and Left 4 Dead must be a little demanding for an 8600GTS (remember, even the X1900XT was faster) but if it's free, it's free...
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4. August 2009 @ 11:53 |
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the point i was making wat that its got the voltage tweeker, so it can be overclocked more than normal.
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4. August 2009 @ 12:11 |
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I've not seen people get much past 1Ghz with it regardless, and we all know what extra voltage can do to graphics cards... o_o
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4. August 2009 @ 12:55 |
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well it WAS the 216 core. and he said it only had about 25hours of gameing on it. but his brother asked him for it. so you know what that means..lol if it was me family comes first too...lol
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4. August 2009 @ 15:40 |
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Quake 4 and Left 4 Dead must be a little demanding for an 8600GTS (remember, even the X1900XT was faster) but if it's free, it's free...
Quake 4 is really old. My old 7600GT could run it at 1280 x 1024 with high settings and 2x AA. He'll be at the same or lower so I think he'll be fine. As for L4D... remember it's Source Engine, so I know he will run it fine. In fact I think he'a already been playing it just fine at 1280 res with medium-high settings. I haven't seen him online so I can only assume he DL'd it.
Hell, he's already gotten GTA4 running to some degree. He can put up with low res and crappy graphics really well. Not to mention low framerates. He played Halo PC online at 12FPS and was consistently a top ranked player in every match. I've seen it with my own eyes.
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4. August 2009 @ 15:52 |
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There's 'running' and then running a game. My X1900XT could play the game at 2560x1600, but to play it smoothly due to a rather mediocre engine design, the resolution had to be way down, mainly due to the video memory usage (2560x1600 with AA used over 600MB of video RAM, a lot for 2005)
Since GTA4 is heavily biased towards nvidias, an 8600GTS in GTA4 is more like an HD3850 for performance, thus he should be able to play it to some degree. As for Halo, if you've ever played Halo, you'll realise what a dramatic skill differential there is. There are a lot of truly terrible players out there, yet there are also some truly amazing players - come up against the latter at 12fps, different story.
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4. August 2009 @ 16:19 |
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There's 'running' and then running a game. My X1900XT could play the game at 2560x1600, but to play it smoothly due to a rather mediocre engine design, the resolution had to be way down, mainly due to the video memory usage (2560x1600 with AA used over 600MB of video RAM, a lot for 2005)
Well he does have a 512MB card so as far as that goes he's still overkill. He's Currently using a 19" LCD at 1280 x 1024 and playing most newer games quite happily.
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There are a lot of truly terrible players out there, yet there are also some truly amazing players - come up against the latter at 12fps, different story.
He's an excellent player and can kick some serious face when he gets on a roll. He' a bit of a heavy weapons wh*** sometimes, but he's really really good with them too.
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4. August 2009 @ 16:56 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: Unless you're planning for at least 5-6 years down the line, there's nothing new on the horizon, but the next potential resolution will be 3840x2160 / 3840x2400.
How do you come to that figure?
My 8600GT ran GTA IV O-K. I forget what the frame rates were, but I had to turn most of the settings down to medium, including the resolution. I think 1440 x 900 performed admirably.
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4. August 2009 @ 16:57 |
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because it already exists as a resolution, and it has already been added as a supported standard in DisplayPort.
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4. August 2009 @ 17:01 |
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4. August 2009 @ 17:03 |
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yes, it's the successor to HDMI.
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4. August 2009 @ 17:11 |
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Appreciate the confirmation :)
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4. August 2009 @ 18:03 |
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There really should be a universal standard...
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4. August 2009 @ 18:21 |
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Amen to that!!!
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4. August 2009 @ 22:42 |
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Originally posted by estuansis:
Haha just did another one of my "charity" builds. Built my best friend a ghetto gaming rig practically for free.
.... I dunno I can't help but give. It makes me feel good to help people :S
Nice!
What is the 3dmark6 score - I'm guessing 9000. (I'm under 5,000 lol.) Plus on top of the satisfaction of helping a buddy - you feel like the computer god you're getting to be, lol!
Somebody mentioned Left 4 Dead a bit ago - it was you, Jeff. I have only one more campaign to go!
Originally posted by Rich with his L4D progress:
I finally got out on the truck last night - after having been shot by guys inside the truck last week, and not making it - BooB made it out last week but he wasn't in at the beginning of the campaign. So yesterday I decided to practice a bit of selfishness at the very end (like Sam when he incaps a team-mate :P) and I made a mad dash for the hole in the loft and jumped down to the truck - actually missing it on the first attempt and thinking "What the f*ck I'm not gonna get out again." Then I clambored in and it instantly took off - so fast that I didn't know if I had made it or not until the "In Memory Of" rolled.
Boob, who has just shortened his name from Boombizzle, (I used to call him "Boom" and mostly still do) and another guy didn't get out.
When we first played together on advanced a month or so ago, he had just bought the game two days before and I (being the old hand now) walked him through the ropes (unlike Sam who just flies ahead and says later "You've got to keep up, chap" haha.) Plus his picture has a shot of his girlfriend of 5 years, and I told him I thought she was cute - she is.
So he regularly jumps in when he sees that I'm online. He had mistakenly told me a couple days ago that he had all the campaigns - but the one we were on, blood harvest, is the one he was missing, whoops! So we chatted at the end - I'm missing the hospital. I told him I'd make sure he was the first on the truck if he made sure I was the first on the helicopter!
Then he wants to do pistols only - but I think you can still get that dropping down to advanced (or am I wrong?) That's probably the type of thing that only one guy on the team can be working on - being carried by the other team-mates with full weapons.
Hey Kevin, just noticed your sig. You should go see the movie "Food." All of you guys - go see that film - I recommend it highly. Fascinating and eye opening.
Just one little example: I always like the industry slogan "corn-fed cattle." I love corn and it sounded great to me. But the documentary looks at all the ramifications of putting cows on a feedlot, trucking in the corn, and trucking out the manure: a 10-fold increase in e-coli, versus grass-fed corn! So now there's some kind of additive, like formaldehyde, that they put in the ground beef to try to kill the e-coli! Hahahaha.
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5. August 2009 @ 03:50 |
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5. August 2009 @ 04:15 |
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I DID IT!!! WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE!!
Hahahaha.
I feel like estuansis with his spare parts hot gaming system for his p3 friend.
I've pretty much got it down now - usually lowest friendly fire on the team, the best places to handle the horde, etc etc.
Look me up guys - berkeley is my new game name (I was getting too many questions about harvard.)
Kevin if you are on-line, look me up - I'll watch your back. If I was on your friend's list before, I'll still be on it. Same thing of course you other guys.
Sam, thanks for the tip about pistols-only - no reason to try to do that on expert if that's not required. Now one day I'll have to see what versus and survival are all about.
Oh yeah, I saw the new thing coming in September - a bridge from hospital to the next campaign - the helicopter crashes - plus lots of new dialog. Cool!!
Rich
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6. August 2009 @ 00:18 |
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Dreamer: It all depends what 500W PSU it is. A 500W Corsair could manage 550W - a 500W coolermaster would only be 300-350W. A 500W Raidmax/Rosewill/Logisys/Qtec or any other cheap generic brand might fail at only 120W, and spectacularly so. It also depends what quad core you have. A lightweight core 2 quad will be ok with a lower PSU than an inefficient phenom or core i7 CPU will need. For $200 the best buy is an HD4890 from XFX:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150359
A very powerful card for the money, it will eat the previously mentioned GTX260 alive. Obviously consider with an 80-95W intel core 2 quad you will want at least a quality 400W PSU for it to be safe, if you use an AMD ideally a 450W, if a core i7, ideally a 500W.
I have Antec Basiq 500watt psu and the cpu is Q6600 at 2.40Ghz,with 4gb ram, 2 500gb hard drives.So will it be sufficient for HD4890 upgrade.thx
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6. August 2009 @ 06:13 |
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It should be. The Basiq units are by far the worst units Antec made though, so it's impossible to say for certain.
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6. August 2009 @ 08:15 |
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Before I bring back photos of Multiplay i37 (which I will be attending from this evening until monday evening) I'll start the ball rolling with this picture:
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5766/s5000683.jpg
Fileserver is behind where I'm standing here, at the end of the bed.
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6. August 2009 @ 09:48 |
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Very nice Sam. That chair makes me cringe though. must get so uncomfortable after long periods. I much prefer my nice, worn-in Staples chair though. I've got full lower back support, arms on the sides to steady my aim, and a head rest(surprised it's even high enough for my head :P). You should really put some consideration into a more substantial chair if you spend so much time at that epic command center :P
The desk is sweet though. Wish I had that one. I have a somewhat similar set-up. My Armor is on the desk to my right, and my Raidmax Smilodon and CM Centurion 5 are on the floor side-by-side next to the desk.
Ha speaking of putting consideration into a purchase, I really need a digital camera. I do have a very nice mechanical camera, but alas, no scanner :(
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6. August 2009 @ 10:22 |
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I have a scanner that I've used once.I also own a printer that I've never used at all. My granddad needlessly bought a combined printer/scanner because a screw got stuck in the printer and he only showed it to me after he'd bought his new one. Long story short he gave me them and all it took was the other end of a spoon and the screw pinged out.
Not sure why that's of any importance at all.
Tut-tut Sam you have a power adapter into a power adapter very naughty I'm not sure why but its just what you get told. Since giving my spare rig to my little bro its very boring at my desk. Actually I've now been inspired to go and retrieve all my games consoles form their various hiding places so I can do an image like omega's where you have to spot all the consoles and handhelds and so on...
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6. August 2009 @ 10:31 |
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Likewise, I prefer my office chair in York. It's much more comfortable and has arms (I rarely use headrests). I've been after a more comfortable chair back at my parents' for years, but never got round to it :P - The desk is alright, it's a nice size (it used to have an extra monitor stand for back in the old small CRT days). The camera was around £120 at the time, but it's barely worth half that now, it's a Samsung S500.
I have a power adapter plugged into a power adapter as I only have one wall socket. The reason you are told not to do it (rightly so) is that you have one socket providing power to 12 plugs so it's very easy to break the maximum current of the socket. However, I know exactly how much power what's attached to this circuit draws and know that it isn't going to break the current limit (13A). if you go to any LAN party you see at least double-chained power adapters, sometimes even triple-chained, as most gamers use at least 4 sockets, and if a small room fits 15 gamers and a large one fits 1500, that's a lot of plug sockets. Since most people (those with QCF systems like myself excluded) use less than 2A each, it's entirely conceivable to fit five (sometimes 6 or 7 if some people are using laptops) onto the same socket. 4 plugs times this number of people, the number of actual plugs off one socket can be in excess of 20 - and here I'm only using 10. Since the modem, speakers, KVM Switch and printer don't come to LANs, the number of sockets I use at a LAN is much less anyway. The armada of games consoles is more like the house in York which I'll have to photoshop - a living room invaded by two file servers, a TV + hifi, several consoles, rock band gear, two routers and a switch, a laser printer and goodness knows how much network cable is quite funny to see!
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