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30. December 2008 @ 06:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Russ PM me if U NEED Shrink with img burn
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Russ why use shrink if you have Nero? Nero Recode is excellent.My XP 64 And Vista didn't like Nero unless I downloaded it from File Hippo and inserted my serial #.Sorry about the OT. chris
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Russ and as long as you have anydvd ripit4me should work indefinitely. a few people in here use that combo anydvd and ripit4me with very good results

If you have AnyDVD then RipIt4me me serves no purpose except perhaps as a memory of days gone by.


In regards to Vista. I have two copies of Home Premium. One on my laptop and the other on a folding rig. Vista is OK but it doesn't do much that XP Pro can't do with fewer resources. Vista 32 bit is almost a dilemma in that it uses more memory than 32 bit XP and has the same 4 Gb memory limit. Once you throw in all the other items that have memory you are usually down to about a maximum of 3.25Gb (give or take a few) left for system RAM. Vista should have been a 64 bit only system because then one can add as much RAM as they can socket in their boards and it will use it, but as a 32 bit system it's lacking. On a final note, I think that it's timte to move away from 32 bit OS and move to 64 bit anyway.

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I just got a new Dell xps m1330 for christmas and it had vista home premium installed. I decided to give it a try for a while because pele keep saying that sp1 made everything better. The first thing i tried to do was install cs4 and office 2003. I installed both of these fine on my desktop running 64bit server 2008. But when i tried in vista i got errors and had to install in compatability with xp sp2. Then when i got it installed there were more errors and it said that I would have limited functionality.

So i tried to resize my partition so i could install linux and the partition was all screwed up and nortotn told me it could fix an error and it screwed it up completely so now i am running only ubuntu at the moment and it is great. i am will be either install xp or the 64 bit windows 7 beta in a dual boot.

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hey Russ
me and the boys dropping in


planning a new board install in the antec
Yank'in the ga-p35-ds3r & E6750< 4 sale) & Corsair 800 (out)

(Ga-EP45-UD3P)My cost $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128358
(Q6600) My cost $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Memory Either of these
Kingston HyperX 4GB i was looking at the (T1)series
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104038
GeIL EVO ONE 2GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144212
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231226
Topped off with the Big V8
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103055
and..i'm not paying $70 for either..i wont tell my new screts
and connections..lol

take it easy my friend you know how to reach me..Happy New Year
to you & Everybody..Here See Ya

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Originally posted by theonejrs:

Mine was Vista Ultimate Edition on a really nice Acer MultiMedia Laptop with an Intel C2D 1.73GHz and 2GB of memory and a CrystalBrite widescreen I sold to sytyguy. I got a message when I installed Nero 7 saying it was incompatible with my hardware and was terminating the install to prevent damage. Nero 6 installed with an error message that said that there may be a compatibility issue, Do I want to proceed. No threat of damage like 7 so I proceeded. When I went to run it for the first time, it locked up the computer and it wouldn't boot after that at all! I did manage to get it to boot up in safe mode, but it wouldn't let me uninstall Nero 6. I wound up buying a recovery disk which I restored the computer with and then sold it. Oh! It also didn't like Power DVD 7, 6 or 5! It now happily runs XP-Pro! Nicest laptop I ever owned in terms of quality and build. Slim but very rugged, and the display was magnificent.

Russ
I guess that goes to show that vista is a buggy POS. My laptop runs Vista Ultimate 32-bit edition (in hindsight 64-bit would've been better, though I should have just payed for the the 'downgrade' to XP pro lol) with a P9500 and 4GB of RAM; it runs all the same software I use on my XP pro machine just slower and with random annoying error's/crashing. I'm hoping widows 7 will be better than XP pro so I can change all my systems to 64-bit OS.


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Don't forget there's gazillion varieties of Linux out there too, and 64-bit ones too.
I've been using 64-bit in Solaris for donkeys years :)



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Originally posted by eparker89:
Originally posted by theonejrs:

Mine was Vista Ultimate Edition on a really nice Acer MultiMedia Laptop with an Intel C2D 1.73GHz and 2GB of memory and a CrystalBrite widescreen I sold to sytyguy. I got a message when I installed Nero 7 saying it was incompatible with my hardware and was terminating the install to prevent damage. Nero 6 installed with an error message that said that there may be a compatibility issue, Do I want to proceed. No threat of damage like 7 so I proceeded. When I went to run it for the first time, it locked up the computer and it wouldn't boot after that at all! I did manage to get it to boot up in safe mode, but it wouldn't let me uninstall Nero 6. I wound up buying a recovery disk which I restored the computer with and then sold it. Oh! It also didn't like Power DVD 7, 6 or 5! It now happily runs XP-Pro! Nicest laptop I ever owned in terms of quality and build. Slim but very rugged, and the display was magnificent.

Russ
I guess that goes to show that vista is a buggy POS. My laptop runs Vista Ultimate 32-bit edition (in hindsight 64-bit would've been better, though I should have just payed for the the 'downgrade' to XP pro lol) with a P9500 and 4GB of RAM; it runs all the same software I use on my XP pro machine just slower and with random annoying error's/crashing. I'm hoping widows 7 will be better than XP pro so I can change all my systems to 64-bit OS.

Why don't you "Downgrade" it yourself? If they offer XP-Pro, then there should be drivers on their site for XP since the offer it as a downgrade. It should be easy. If you don't feel confident doing it yourself, send it to me and I'll be happy to do it for you!

As far as crashing, with XP, it's like a death in the family to me if it crashes! LOL!! Until I had my recent problem with my E6750, it almost never crashed unless I did something stupid. I've only seen one BSOD in over a year and 1/2 and I use my computer 14-17 hours a day, most days! My laptop has never crashed and it's been running XP-Pro SP3 since it was a beta. It's an old Dell C610 P3 1.2GHz that's mostly used as a DVD player and for surfing the net when I'm away from home.

Happy Holidays,
Russ

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30. December 2008 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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So whats the current sweet spot when it comes to monitors?
My family had a good Xmas and my wife offered to buy me a monitor while we were at a local Best Buy. I was looking at 22" and she was ready to spend $300 but I told her wait till I find something better and cheaper than at that store.
I know most 22" resolutions are 1680x1050 and some even at full HD at 1920x1080, I may put a Blu-ray player in my rig down the road so I think I may want the full resolution. Let me know if theres big enough of a difference to make that a deal breaker.
I have looked at Viewsonics, Sceptre, and Samsung and see quite a few deals less than $300. Help me find the best! TIA

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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
So whats the current sweet spot when it comes to monitors?
My family had a good Xmas and my wife offered to buy me a monitor while we were at a local Best Buy. I was looking at 22" and she was ready to spend $300 but I told her wait till I find something better and cheaper than at that store.
I know most 22" resolutions are 1680x1050 and some even at full HD at 1920x1080, I may put a Blu-ray player in my rig down the road so I think I may want the full resolution. Let me know if theres big enough of a difference to make that a deal breaker.
I have looked at Viewsonics, Sceptre, and Samsung and see quite a few deals less than $300. Help me find the best! TIA

I would favor this one over others for it's 1920x1080 and it's smaller Pixel Pitch. Asus makes some very good monitors. It also includea both VGA and DVI cables. Free shipping is also a big deal as the box it comes in is huge. It's also not a TN panel!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236053

Happy New Year,
Russ


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30. December 2008 @ 21:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
VERY nice Russ. Though I want this one Linky myself. What... its ok to dream, RIGHT? LOL
Happy new yr by the way :D



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How bout one of these Deadrum? linky

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GM... I hope you dont/didnt mind my using YOUR trademark (Linky). Its so logical, you know? I'll try to think of something else if you prefer I didnt use it. :)



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hi gents,

this is of topic and I apologize but I've got a little dilemma. I went to upgrade my moms acer 5315 laptop with more memory, from 2 x 512mb samsung DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) to 2 x 1gb crucial DDR2 667 (PC2 5300). now it won't boot up. nothing on the screen now period. power led lights and dvd tray will open but screen is dead. I reintalled the original memory and same problem. it has vista home premium for OS. any suggestions? TIA.

if anybody has any suggestions feel free to PM me in order to keep this thread on topic. thanks.

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mort, start a thread in pc hardware about that problem. no error beeps at all?
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Originally posted by ddp:
mort, start a thread in pc hardware about that problem. no error beeps at all?
will do ddp. btw, no beeps.

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try 1 old stick at a time in each ram socket. see if can find cmos battery possibly under left side of keyboard & remove it for a few minutes.
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Greenie-I like where you are going with this, limit by cash not size! Must be married and like me, ready to squeeze out as much as possible when allowed a new toy! LOL!
Omega-I have dreams like that too! Mine also ends with locking myself in my basement workshop, finally coming upstairs and my 3 year old magically is 16 and in high school and I say "I've been glued to that thing for HOW long?
TheONE-Good find. As you said, cables and free shipping are a plus and the factor that made me choose the Asus over all others. Being this late in the day, new years, and the weekend, my shipment should arrive next Monday!
Thanks again everyone and happy new year!

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Originally posted by ddp:
try 1 old stick at a time in each ram socket. see if can find cmos battery possibly under left side of keyboard & remove it for a few minutes.
I'll look for the battery when I go back to my moms tomorrow. I don't want to tear it apart too much as it is still under warranty (brand new). I started a new thread here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/735129

btw, acer's support sucks. there isn't a phone number period in the manual. I finally found a number on line but they were closed.

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send it back under warranty replacement & don't tell them about what you did with new ram.
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Greenie-I like where you are going with this, limit by cash not size! Must be married and like me, ready to squeeze out as much as possible when allowed a new toy! LOL!
Omega-I have dreams like that too! Mine also ends with locking myself in my basement workshop, finally coming upstairs and my 3 year old magically is 16 and in high school and I say "I've been glued to that thing for HOW long?
TheONE-Good find. As you said, cables and free shipping are a plus and the factor that made me choose the Asus over all others. Being this late in the day, new years, and the weekend, my shipment should arrive next Monday!
Thanks again everyone and happy new year!

My 3 year old is now 33! LOL!! I know how you feel. I've got Grandkids older than 3! I was looking that monitor over and it has a 16x9 aspect ratio. That's kind of rare at that resolution. Most 22 widescreens are 16x10. Glad to have been some help!

Happy New Year,
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
Will
tell Dan Moody at microcenter i want the same deals...
or am i excluded from the club know?
Robo
the deals are not coming from Dan Moody I've hooked up with
someone from (XtremeSystem) and did some horse trading who
owns there own little shop and has these two parts laying
around (open box) and tested..I hav'en seen Dan in a Long
time sense..I been in there or he's hiding from me..I've heard
his name called over the speaker but hav'en seen him in the store
i've been spending most my time at Xs meeting and talking to new people and learning more about Biostar boards and Asus & Gigabyte etc
and helping others that wanna listen without offeneding you.I just dont fit in here..been trying to get my account deleted.I just came in to say hi and have a Happy New Year to All and express a R&R on
my Antec That's all Be well my Old Friend and take care:)
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
GM... I hope you dont/didnt mind my using YOUR trademark (Linky). Its so logical, you know? I'll try to think of something else if you prefer I didnt use it. :)
NO trademark. :0 I "borrowed" it too. ;)

Deadrum you gotta do what you can with your money. :) So which LCD did you go with? I missed it somehow. :)

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that monitor has hdmi aswel iicr... im thinking of buying it for the ps3 ill be getting soon

also russ, you might be a bit mistaken, its gotta be a TN panel, the viewing angles are 170°(H) / 160°(V)

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