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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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31. December 2008 @ 00:10 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
that monitor has hdmi aswel iicr... im thinking of buying it for the ps3 ill be getting soon
also russ, you might be a bit mistaken, its gotta be a TN panel, the viewing angles are 170°(H) / 160°(V)
It's the same as My Sceptre, 170x160
TN's are 160x160 The Asus I recommended is an S-PVA, not a TN! This particular model used to have a TN Panel and was 2ms. This new revision one is 5ms!
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31. December 2008 @ 00:51 |
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Curious. Does anyone know what exactly limits a board regarding wattage limitations on a processor. My msi board will not except a processor if it exceeds 89W on the athlon x 2's, with a max of 94W on the phenom processors. I must admit though, I am not JUMPING into my next build. My next board will have as few limitations as possible :( Sick of how limited my board is! 2 sata ports! 1 ide(can live with that one though). I would love a board thats MONTHS ahead of the times. YAH RIGHT!!! That'll happen...
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31. December 2008 @ 01:29 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Don't forget there's gazillion varieties of Linux out there too, and 64-bit ones too.
I've been using 64-bit in Solaris for donkeys years :)
Actually I've been toying with the idea using a Linux distro to turn an unused laptop into a mini server but can't decide on which one to use.
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Why don't you "Downgrade" it yourself? If they offer XP-Pro, then there should be drivers on their site for XP since the offer it as a downgrade. It should be easy. If you don't feel confident doing it yourself, send it to me and I'll be happy to do it for you!
As far as crashing, with XP, it's like a death in the family to me if it crashes! LOL!! Until I had my recent problem with my E6750, it almost never crashed unless I did something stupid. I've only seen one BSOD in over a year and 1/2 and I use my computer 14-17 hours a day, most days! My laptop has never crashed and it's been running XP-Pro SP3 since it was a beta. It's an old Dell C610 P3 1.2GHz that's mostly used as a DVD player and for surfing the net when I'm away from home.
Happy Holidays,
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Thanks for the offer Russ, but I could manage if my XP pro CD wasn't MIA. I figure by the time I get around to finding it windows 7 will either be out or it'll be close enough to the release date to merit waiting. Since it's never crashed, only has problems with playback of some video files and it's mainly used for work, I'm too lazy to change the OS with windows 7 on the horizon lol.
My desktop with XP pro has never had stability problems no matter what I do; its been F@H for 2.5 weeks 24/7 now and still no problems. The closest it has come to crashing is when I accidentally pulled the wrong plug from the power strip XD
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31. December 2008 @ 01:29 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Curious. Does anyone know what exactly limits a board regarding wattage limitations on a processor. My msi board will not except a processor if it exceeds 89W on the athlon x 2's, with a max of 94W on the phenom processors. I must admit though, I am not JUMPING into my next build. My next board will have as few limitations as possible :( Sick of how limited my board is! 2 sata ports! 1 ide(can live with that one though). I would love a board thats MONTHS ahead of the times. YAH RIGHT!!! That'll happen...
This will be my choice. About as future proof as you can get.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128352
Specs and features
Gigabyte GA-MA790GP-DS4H
http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Products/Mot...?ProductID=2887
While it does have on-board video, it has it's own video memory. HD3300 Graphics, DX-10 and Can handle anything up to 140w. AM3 Ready. I want one! LOL!!
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31. December 2008 @ 02:45 |
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Thanks russ, :D Whats your opinion on Gigabyte. I suppose its good, if you WANT it, LOL. They do average VERY good reviews ive noticed. I gave MSI a shot, with my last build. QUITE impressed. Wouldnt mind another Asus though. See... my Hp 2001 pavilions got an asus in it. Solid performer with its 1400mhz AMD processor. Its survived Cross country travel twice, hardware swaps, etc. STILL kickin. Asus is OBVIOUSLY a performer as well :)
LOL, you know what I'd REALLY like for my next build...DUAL QUADS! Now THAT would be a screaming board :D :D
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31. December 2008 @ 03:01 |
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Guys how come I cant find this ram for my gateway, 1024MB-533MHz DDR2-533 PC2-4200, 240p DIMM, 1.8v at places like newegg etc. The closet ram I can find on newegg is Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) System Specific Memory for HP/Compaq - Retail.
It says it's for HP's & Compaqs and unbuffered what ever the hell that means if it would make a difference or not don't know, I don't particulary like Kingston, and sure I can locate it at a gateway site just don't want to be charged an arm and a leg.
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31. December 2008 @ 03:16 |
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You could try CRUCIAL. Crucial and Kingston are the best in my opinion. Though Kingston doesnt work in all rigs. I think its fairly rare though. They are the best in the business(BOTH), Hands down. :D
:)<-----using Gskill here
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31. December 2008 @ 04:42 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Guys how come I cant find this ram for my gateway, 1024MB-533MHz DDR2-533 PC2-4200, 240p DIMM, 1.8v at places like newegg etc. The closet ram I can find on newegg is Kingston 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 533 (PC2 4200) System Specific Memory for HP/Compaq - Retail.
It says it's for HP's & Compaqs and unbuffered what ever the hell that means if it would make a difference or not don't know, I don't particulary like Kingston, and sure I can locate it at a gateway site just don't want to be charged an arm and a leg.
Unh, because you looked in the wrong place! LOL! :)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLis...307858&name=1GB
Try there, they have 7 1GB listed. Next time select DDR2 from the list on the left, and then scroll down and click on more at the bottom of the speed list, and then you will see 533. Then you can choose what size you want.
Happy New Year Fred,
Russ
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31. December 2008 @ 05:43 |
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Wow, There's no dual am2+ boards on newegg. I would REALLY like a board equipped with DUAL phenom FX's...OMG! As I typed that I just read up on the FX class phenoms. STELLAR!!! Im waiting on my next build till I can build with one of those freaks of technology! LOL :D
AMD is taking a VERY Large step with those bad boys! The wiki has some pretty interesting tidbits. All of which can be found at amds site im sure. But there are also rumors on wiki, INTERESTING rumors.
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31. December 2008 @ 07:20 |
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Thanks russ, :D Whats your opinion on Gigabyte
now thats a loaded Question...lol Russ has a very High Opinion of Gigabyte boards. and he should have. thats all i have to say about that...lol.
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You could try CRUCIAL. Crucial and Kingston are the best in my opinion. Though Kingston doesnt work in all rigs. I think its fairly rare though. They are the best in the business(BOTH), Hands down. :D
:)<-----using Gskill here
WOW... i wouldnt wish crucial mem on anyone. there DDR2 1066 mem is garbage. ive RMA'd 3 sets of crucial mem. the last set is still in the package i havent even opened and wont.(ddr2 800)
i am glad t osee your useing somthing other than the crucial you speak highly of...lol
just funnin with ya Omegaman, no harm ment here....
in a couple weeks im gonna start buy some parts for my new build(quad core build) thinking of the case first of all..lol yea you all know what im going with,,,HAF932...
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31. December 2008 @ 08:32 |
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I still have to return my failed stick of Crucial RAM. Bought a Crucial RAM Fan for now,to cool the 2 sticks i've left in, though am not expecting the fans to last long from the reviews i'd read.
Will probably buy Corsair Dominator's if any more Crucial sticks fail.
/looks at the piles of old EDO and SDRAM that are donkey's years old and sighs at today's craply built technology - no doubt made for today's generation of teens who upgrade equipment for no good reason every few months
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31. December 2008 @ 12:10 |
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Hppy New Year Russ and everybody else, thanks so much getting back to me, I know I'm not an expert on searches like you guys are, that's why I'm glad you guy's are around.
I'm gonna order the Corsair for the gateway, also after reading some of you reported how crucial sucks I'm glad I read it cause I was gonna order one for my HP also today, dropped that sucker and found this,
http://www.globalcomputer.com/applicatio...-_-GLOEM771-_-5 weeks,
even a better deal than the crucial was, been wanting to do this for a while now and finally getting to it, I've installed ram before it's easy, but, my media center HP holy crappola, I noticed where the empty slot is it looks like I might have to take out half the guts out of the damn thing to install it, it's the HP Media Center m7330n, the one with the slot in the front you can install an external hardrive,no room what so ever in the damn thing gez.
I just hope I don't screw something up and wind up throwing the damn thing out the window, can't wait till I finally have the money and the balls to build my own my way, I'm gonna get a case 6ft high where I can walk in it and sit down and install things in comfort lol.
Sometime soon I'm gonna do this, gave up on my son helping, when he comes home for holidays he's always gone anyway, eh no biggie I was young once to, but I'm starting to taste a build, constantly reading this post, so many different configs, so many different idea's and opinions I kinda get lost and frustrated sometimes but no matter.
I keep in a folder many different kind of ideas and part listing that always interest me, and my eye caught a motherboard you posted on the previous page Russ, the gigabyte, did a lot of reading on it, if I had to build today it would be my pick, I like the gig boards, I helped a friend of mine get one from a college kid I met when he came to my friends auto shop, he build it himself and also had a gig board he also swears by them, he said he has build many for friends and always uses gigs, he needed the bucks and I got a great deal for my friend at the shop, there's 4 PC's in that shop and that one never has a problem, solid as a steal door run's like a champ, you know in shops you have 10 different people with their hands on all of them and everybody always fight to use that one lol, it's the only one that's always reliable.
Actually when I will be ready I'm gonna use this kid to help me, as computer stupid as I still am I am smart enough not to attempt trying to put one together on my own without somekind of guidance, as much help as I get from a site like this and will when the time comes, going back and fourth with problems and questions on a forum I can see that will be frustrating, I would probably fill out 50 pages of questions for you guys, I would probably get banned lol.
But knowing I have this thread and the kid I'm not so paranoid, not yet anyway, when I start ordering might start getting the shakes lol, can you believe this, I can fix your car and build you a house without blinking an eye, but scared sh#%t#*s with this coming project, but I'm stubborn, a perfectionist and refuse to be defeated.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU GUY'S.
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31. December 2008 @ 12:43 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob
WOW... i wouldnt wish crucial mem on anyone.
i am glad t osee your useing somthing other than the crucial you speak highly of...lol
just funnin with ya Omegaman, no harm ment here....quote:
nah, nah. To each his own man. Ive had pretty good luck with both kingston and crucial. Thanks for the tidbit about 1066 crucial. Thats pretty pathetic. Maybe their going down hill! I got the Gskill for 2 reasons. Give another manufacturer a shot, as well as saving 50$ by not buying the ones I REALLY wanted, LOL. Plus their reviews were looking pretty reasonable. Their ram is pretty flashy too :D I LOVE running experiments. :D
Happy new year Russ, Rob, Everyone!
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31. December 2008 @ 12:54 |
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Happy New Year all, have started early.
Fred, don't be put off by pc's, they're really child's play. Building them/troubleshooting them anyway. It's only the keeping up with the youngster speak ie the endless graphics card/driver update conversations that's tricky. Though i lost interest in all that crap many years ago, a pc is just a tool for me to get things done. Bah humbug and all that :)
Once you've messed with/or built one you'll realise how easy it is, then you'll realise why so many of us don't do Tech Support in the Windows world, but in proper systems, anybody with half an ipod can do tech support/understand Windows :) :)
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31. December 2008 @ 13:12 |
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russ, PVAs have a veiwing angle of 178/178, anything less is a TN :)
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31. December 2008 @ 13:18 |
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Happy New Year AD. I've decided to drink less, eat less, and suffer fools gladly (Hmm! Maybe not), and purchase fewer PC parts (a lie I told my wife:P).
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31. December 2008 @ 13:22 |
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Originally posted by spamual:
russ, PVAs have a veiwing angle of 178/178, anything less is a TN :)
Actually...Unless wiki is mistaken, PVA's... Well here. This was taken from wiki.
TVs based on PVA and S-PVA LCD panels deliver a broad viewing angle, up to 178 degrees
I truly hope im not mistaken. It is not my wish to start an argument. Im trying to understand the technology myself :D
So am I right in assuming that anything UNDER 178 is PVA???
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31. December 2008 @ 13:38 |
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MVA is 176/176, 178/178 is S-PVA IICR, and S-IPS goes upto 180 IICR.
that panel is deffo TN with a 160.
and with the response time at 2ms no doubt its a TN
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31. December 2008 @ 13:46 |
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Wow... Lcd's are beginning to intimidate me O.o Im sure given time and experimentation, I'll understand. LOL, then there will be a new technology
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31. December 2008 @ 14:00 |
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Wow... Lcd's are beginning to intimidate me O.o Im sure given time and experimentation, I'll understand. LOL, then there will be a new technology
It's not really that hard. TN panels have improved a lot over the last couple of years in the area of color and now make a reasonably decent choice. S-IPS panels continue to be expensive but they are being challenged by the latest S-PVA panels but they too are expensive. I'm not even certain that there are any LCDs' under 24 inches that have anything but TN panels. So if you're not looking for at least a 24 inch, then worrying about S-IPS or S-PVA is unwarranted.
If there are any S-IPS or S-PVA panels under 24 inches then this group will find it.
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31. December 2008 @ 14:04 |
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Ahhh... So basically unless im an LCD history buff, I need not worry too much about the terminology?
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31. December 2008 @ 14:25 |
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SOPH, the dell 20" were/are s-ips ICIR
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31. December 2008 @ 14:27 |
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Ahhh... So basically unless im an LCD history buff, I need not worry too much about the terminology?
The point I was making is really how much are you going to spend, what size would you like, and what is your intended use? If you are looking for less than a 24 inch then panel type is out of the picture since it will likely be a TN panel. If you are prepared to spend more and you work with graphic images then you should consider an S-IPS or S-PVA but you will pay more on top of their size.
That little 21.5 inch 16:9 Asus TN panel that can play 1080P is in my view a great price for what it offers.
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31. December 2008 @ 14:54 |
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Sorry about my ignorance. I guess ive closed my mind, to the specifics involved in a HIGH quality LCD. I figured if it was large, good resolution, good viewing angle, Then I would be happy. Gonna have to read up on this good stuff. THANK YOU
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31. December 2008 @ 16:17 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Thanks russ, :D Whats your opinion on Gigabyte. I suppose its good, if you WANT it, LOL. They do average VERY good reviews ive noticed. I gave MSI a shot, with my last build. QUITE impressed. Wouldnt mind another Asus though. See... my Hp 2001 pavilions got an asus in it. Solid performer with its 1400mhz AMD processor. Its survived Cross country travel twice, hardware swaps, etc. STILL kickin. Asus is OBVIOUSLY a performer as well :)
LOL, you know what I'd REALLY like for my next build...DUAL QUADS! Now THAT would be a screaming board :D :D
GigaByte, like many others makes some very good motherboards. They occasionally bring out a dog. The 790x has some problems and wasn't well received, while the 790GX doesn't, and gets very positive reviews. I want the one I linked you because it met the criteria you asked for. It is very future proof. It will accept just about any dual core or quad CPU you want to put in it, all the way through the Phenom II Black Edition. It also has the embedded controller for AMD Overdrive, which allows higher overclocks with the Phenom II than any previous AMD motherboard, without the penalty of having to use more voltage to do it. It also can use future AM3 CPUs with DDR2 with just a bios flash. I would call that very future proof!
Russ
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