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10. December 2007 @ 12:30 |
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I prefer Sapphire. Gecube and Powercolor have both made some pretty dire quality parts in the past, tarnishing ATI's name quite severely.
As for upgrading the GPU, I expect so, but not that well, you'll probably find that unless you upgrade your CPU while you have the chance you'll end up lagging behind. That said though, if you grab a Penryn I think there's a good chance that your PC could play games well in 5 years with an updated graphics card. My X1900XT is already nearly 18 months old, and I only have the desire to upgrade because I run such a high resolution. With standard resolutions like 1280x1024 and 1680x1050 the card can play pretty much every game that comes out on max except for Crysis.
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10. December 2007 @ 12:36 |
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i would recommend HIS. they have a UK RMA centre aswell.
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10. December 2007 @ 13:06 |
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@REAM whats the difference between the L and the R for the mobo? and HIS can't get that brand in SA...never seen one here so i presume there isn't any...
@sammorris If i have a E6750 and my 8600GTS will i be able to play games on max?...since 8600GTS is powerful than your X1900XT is it not?
as for the ram i'll get the 2GB kit...since i won't be using 64-bit OS...
about how long this build would last, i'm not typically worried about the RAM or the CPU its fast enough, and the CPU should be able to keep up with the latest games in the next 3-4 years...but not the GPU tho...
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10. December 2007 @ 13:13 |
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Nope, my X1900XT is faster. Not by that much, but it is definitely faster.
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10. December 2007 @ 13:35 |
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hmm...thought so...8600GTS and lower series sucks...even 7-series can beat it...i regret buying 8600GTS...i should've bought 8800GTS 320MB...
Oh um...sammorris will the CPU be able to power any latest components like the Penryn CPU's and lets say 8800GTX?
Christmas is coming up which component should i buy...first:
CPU, GPU, PSU, mobo? or RAM
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10. December 2007 @ 13:52 |
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To be honest, you really shouldn't. The 8800GTS 320MB can't run quite a few new games at high resolutions because it doesn't have enough memory. In most of the Crysis benchmarks it gets 0 since it crashes with certain settings enabled. My card will as well, but usually only if you try to enable AA at high res. Just running the game on high isn't enough to crash it for a 512MB card, not even at 2560x1600 (even though the frame rate is ass)
As for your components, get a decent PSU first. ALWAYS.
Then, since the graphics card is the most reasonable component in your PC, leave that alone for now.
The motherboard, and its requisite RAM should come next, along with the CPU. If you want to make the build cheap initially, get something like an E4400 to tide you over initially, then upgrade to a Penryn later. if you want to go all out now, get an E6750 or Q6600.
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Oh um...sammorris will the CPU be able to power any latest components like the Penryn CPU's and lets say 8800GTX?
Do you mean the PSU? If so, yes. However, if you're going to go with a very high end graphics card, then I recommend getting a PSU with a bit more grunt like a Corsair HX620W, to avoid putting a great deal of stress on it. This, however, is not compulsary. The 600W OCZ will still handle that load fine.
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10. December 2007 @ 14:14 |
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thnx sammorris after hearing that i feel better now...
um...why E4400 why not a E4500 it's 200mhz faster...or doesn't make a difference?
abou the PSU don't know if it can handle a Penryn and the 8800GTX or even the new Nvidia/Ati card coming out next year...
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10. December 2007 @ 14:20 |
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I say the E4400 because you'd only be buying that CPU to save money in the interim. If you're going to spend a reasonable amount of money now you may as well grab an E6750.
As far as the PSU goes, I expect it would be able to handle the new tech OK, since the trend seems to be for reasonably power efficient hardware of late.
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10. December 2007 @ 14:30 |
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tru tru never thought of that...
well thats everything i need to know about the Budget-Conscious Dream Machine!
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10. December 2007 @ 17:07 |
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Originally posted by GTR35:
@REAM whats the difference between the L and the R for the mobo? and HIS can't get that brand in SA...never seen one here so i presume there isn't any...
HIS are a big company. they have superb coolers for the GPUs they refere to.
the difference is the L is cheaper, and doesnt support DDR3, but when the prices for the DD3 are normal, youll probably upgrade the whole system anyways.
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10. December 2007 @ 17:30 |
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@REAM you're right about that one...when DDR3 are normal price that won't happen in a long time...so i should buy the L series to save money...
I was thinking about this...i need to make money...so...
should i sell my OC 8600GTS 256MB and replace it with my 7600GS 256MB and play games on off/low - mid settings or keep the 8600GTS for and sell the 7600GS for less money...and play games on mid -high settings?
By the way...i've tried to sell my 7600GS 256MB for about 2 months and no ones interested...so i think the 8600GTS will have better chance...
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12. December 2007 @ 12:23 |
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The 7600GS won't attract interest because it's rubbish. If you can afford to do so, sell that and keep the 8600 for a bit. If you're upgrading soon or can stomach appalling frame rates for a while sell the 8600 and stick with the 7600GS temporarily.
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12. December 2007 @ 12:42 |
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i won't be buying a new computer until sometimes next year so...i was thinking of selling the 8600GTS and make a decent amount of money...since i bought this card overseas and campare to the price over here in SA it is much cheaper...you know what i mean...and like you said 7600GS is rubbish...i always regret when i buy computer parts...not enough research...
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12. December 2007 @ 13:06 |
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Well now you're an afterdawn member that's no longer an excuse, ask first!
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12. December 2007 @ 13:14 |
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LOL!...even if someone wants to buy my card...i don't ship overseas...since it's too expensive...and well...i think i'll try selling that card to a friend if not i'll HAVE to find a way to sell it...
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12. December 2007 @ 13:15 |
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Hmm, whilst international shipping is viable enough, the buyer will have to pay a lot for you to not lose out, and on such a cheap card it won't really be viable. Maybe you can keep it and make a backup or storage PC using it.
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12. December 2007 @ 13:25 |
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yeah i know that...i was thinking of keeping it as a back up BUT my other two mobo's support AGP and not PCI-E...other wise i'll sell my whole pc...
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12. December 2007 @ 15:05 |
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The implication of that was that your current PC is becoming the backup, not the leftovers you have hanging around.
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12. December 2007 @ 15:36 |
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actually...my Athlon64 XP don't have SATA port...so i'm not gong to use that one...my Sempron mobo has SATA port But i think it has a problem...can't connect up to the internet...maybe i should use a network card...but then again...it doesn't have PCI-E slot...then i'll have to use my old FX 5200 128MB...then i can't play games or lan...only watch anime and movie and surf net...that would be boring
How much do you thin i can sell my computer for?...i'll say R4500 = $668...but i'll say about $300...
1 USD = 6.73050 ZAR
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12. December 2007 @ 15:48 |
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No such thing as an Athlon64 XP, it's either an XP, or it's a 64. Anyway, the point I was making was that you don't need these old PCs any more if you're going to completely upgrade your existing one. Just use the one you've got right now as the backup, and forget about the old AGP setups.
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12. December 2007 @ 15:56 |
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well yeah...but i can only upgrade when i have money...so you're right...this computer is my back up...but i'l have to sell it...so i'll have to jump back to my old one...and yes it's XP not Athlon 64 XP...
oh read the last post...
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12. December 2007 @ 15:57 |
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Ah well, you didn't mention you were selling this PC to be able to afford the next one.
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12. December 2007 @ 16:03 |
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yeah how sad...i was thinking if i get a new computer then i'll have a gaming one and one for normal work...but in the end i can't...and my mom play card games on my computer too..
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12. December 2007 @ 16:08 |
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Well, if the second PC is just strictly for work, then either of the old PCs will suffice, surely?
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13. December 2007 @ 03:31 |
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sure, but i'm worried about the RAM...DDR ram are discontinued and it's like a rare item in SA...the shops stopped selling it...
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