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rick5446
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7. February 2006 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
@ brobear..No I think he was implying any defects caught,my implication was shows defects.Well what do U do with a Disc that has defects,[point being]slower would probably give U a better shot at no defects to catch.Once a Disc has a defect caught or not what good is it?
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7. February 2006 @ 19:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Any defects is a coaster. I have had 0 defects from the TY 8X.

The only defects I have had are from the defective discs I recieved and they were burned at 4x and 2x. All had defects in this batch.

Burn speed will only cause errors if your media or burners are not up to the task. If either is marginal, then slower is better.

Donald
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7. February 2006 @ 20:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Burn speed will only cause errors if your media or burners are not up to the task. If either is marginal, then slower is better.
Sounds like a good time to go shopping to me. ;)

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rick5446
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8. February 2006 @ 03:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree with all these statements..I recently had a problem with a liteon.I blamed the media even though it was TY's,the burner was burning,but occasionally [1 in 5]I would get bad sectors,changed Disc's [Ritek] same problem.Re-instaled all programs,firmware,drive cleaner etc same problem.I don't really know what happened to the Liteon,as it was still burning [faulty laser,dragging,just don't know],but it still reads CD's,DVD'S & writes CD's OK,JUST PROBLEMS WRITING dvd's.Bought a new burner CURED all my problems [50 burns not 1 bad Disc].So when having problems,sometimes it can be the fault of your burner,not your media..As a last resort if U continue to have problems with media U trust,you should consider replaceing your burner.I bought a TEAC DV-W516GB this has turned out to be my favorite of all,I find it to be even more reliable then Plextor or NEC.But again that is just a personal opinion
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8. February 2006 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I find it to be even more reliable then Plextor or NEC.But again that is just a personal opinion
I can see the part about the personal opinion. ;) As for reliability, if the Plex isn't working the way it's supposed to, you need to send it in for repairs or replace it. Mine works great. It does a few things my HP won't, then the Plex doesn't have lightscribe. Options are up to the user to search out for purchase, but the drives should do their task every time unless there's some sort of interference. If the Plex is working the way it's supposed to, I can't see how you could say another is more reliable, unless the Plex is heading south like the old drive you replaced.

I had a Memorex-Pioneer do a similar fade out from old age. Wouldn't write properly to DVD R, but would still write to DVD RW and CDs. A new drive and the problem solved. So, when drives start going bad, it doesn't always result in a complete failure. They can start getting quirky and unreliable, and can loose partial function.

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8. February 2006 @ 16:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If by reliabilty you mean how long before it craps out, I would pick a Plextor for the high end and NEC for me cause I'm cheap and they don't die.
Teac is OK but I have had one wear out. Never had a Plextor die either.

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9. February 2006 @ 02:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I find it to be even more reliable then Plextor or NEC
I have found my Plex to be extremely reliable and does a great job on both CD's and DVD's. My old NEC 1300a is almost three years old and still cranking out disks with not one coaster, it may only be a 4x burner but it just keeps on going, can't get much more reliable than that.


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10. February 2006 @ 21:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I bought a 5 cases box of TDK DVD+R - double layer - 2.4x speed - 8.5gb.
I have a Mac OS X. It couldn't read the DVD at all. Then, I used the DVD Media Inspector, and it couldn't read it too. Bad quality????
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11. February 2006 @ 00:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What brand and model is your burner?

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11. February 2006 @ 06:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's a Roxio Toast Titanium, version 6.0.3. Why? The problem could be the burner?
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11. February 2006 @ 07:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What brand and model is the optical drive (burner) used to record the DVDs? I wasn't asking what software you were using. In case you're unaware, there is a section here at AD devoted to Mac systems.

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13. February 2006 @ 00:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi brobear.

It's a MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-835E:

Firmware Revision: GAN7
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO
Media: No

Today I tried a Verbatim DVD-R DL, and I had the same message as the TDK DVD+R DL:
"Please insert a recordable disc. Matshita DVD-R UJ-835E".

By these informations, can you tell what is going on? I'm not good at computers, I just want to burn a DVD! Thanks!
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13. February 2006 @ 02:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cachaca
You may want to read the article on the Matshita drive in the Macs and follow some of the links. Looks like you may have bought a faulty drive. http://www.lowendmac.com/bookrev/05/0812.html#1

It's hard to try to figure out problems when the drive itself may be causing them.

'Brobear'





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rick5446
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13. February 2006 @ 03:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thats what I've been sayin
brobear
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13. February 2006 @ 03:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, but did you say it in an appropriate and timely manner? LOL Just kidding. ;)

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13. February 2006 @ 17:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Brobear,
Ohhh.... nooo!! ... Harder is to realise that you pay a considerable price for a computer and it doesn't make basic jobs like burning DVD's.... Well..., firstly let me put myself together before thinking about the next step... Thank you...
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13. February 2006 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A replacement with a quality drive won't break the bank. That appears to be the best solution. Too bad the company won't fess up to the problem and help. You may want to have the PC checked out by a professional tech to make sure that's the problem. The issue there is if he charges much, that would be money better spent on the new drive. So, shop wisely on both service and parts. If it's still under warranty, raise a "ruckus". Regret I couldn't do more than be the bearer of bad news on this one, and you're welcome.

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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 13. February 2006 @ 18:42

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13. February 2006 @ 23:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Brobear,
Well, you were the bearer.., but it's better know the worse, to chase the better. I'll let you know what will be the solution. Thanks.
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15. February 2006 @ 21:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The only DVD brand that has given me any problems are my Memorex back-ups (x8, and x16), after a while they just stopped playing, if they played at all...
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27. February 2006 @ 07:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
media: Sony DVD-R 4.7GB 25 pack

Worst brand I've ever tried, yet it seems to be a popular choice here;
Out of the 25, I've had 4 coasters. Maybe it was a bad batch, I'm not sure. I said no to the brand based on that experience; I grabbed the on sale for $15/25 pack, and I had better results with other brands which are not as reputable.
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27. February 2006 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey cachaca,

Did I read your few posts right....you bought "5 cases box of TDK DVD+R - double layer" and then later posted your burner info as "It's a MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-835E:

Firmware Revision: GAN7
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO
Media: No "

I see +r dl's trying to read in a -r burner which also dosn't list dl's under DVD-Write. Could that be your problem?
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27. February 2006 @ 16:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bhetrick
Good catch. Not only a bad quality burner, but the user trying to use unsupported formats.

There was a similar post on macosxhints forum:
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MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-835E:

Firmware Revision: GAN7
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
Cache: 2048 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO
Media: No

I hope someone can help me!

Well, that's very clear. It supports writing to DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, and DVD+RW. No Dual Layer support.
Seems to be a rash of people putting the wrong media in a bad burner. The drive is still bad news, but a person has to at least put supported media in it. ;)

'Brobear'





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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 27. February 2006 @ 16:41

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27. February 2006 @ 16:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello bhetrick!

You got it! I was waiting my friend burn the DVD for me in his G5, which can write double layer, see what happens and post the result here. It's really likely that the problem is that simple... I'll let you know! Thanks!
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27. February 2006 @ 16:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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You got it! I was waiting my friend burn the DVD for me in his G5,
That just tells you if your friend can do it and if you have a decent copy of the DVD if he's successful. From the list of supported media, it's obvious your drive doesn't support DL media. Just google your model and you'll see all the complaints for your model burner. If you're wanting DL capability, and a decent burner, both are good reasons to get a new drive. Otherwise, you'll be burning at slow speed on what media the drive will support; sometimes causing problems even then.

'Brobear'





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27. February 2006 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
By the way, I supposed that forums were created to help people, specially those who are still crawling on computer's world. Like me, many people are still discovering how to deal with their machines. And like me, who believed are buying an excellent computer. Could be rashness, but it's only lack of knowledge. Congratulations for those who are already on the top!

I thank you bhetrick!
 
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