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19. February 2010 @ 01:07 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Schwaber, what is the exact model of your board. Or do you have a camera, and can take a picture so you can post a shot of it? I'd like to see this unusual board, that doesn't wanna hold its battery LOL!
I already posted the exact model of my motherboard here. Just look it up.
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19. February 2010 @ 01:19 |
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Asus Limestone 1.04? That can't be right. Unless...its some kind of HP, Dell, Emachine thing. I've never heard of a model quite like that. Is that what CPU-Z calls it?
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19. February 2010 @ 08:21 |
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Time for a new computer?
i920
GA-EX58-UD5
HAF 932 or maybe Antec 1200
Corsair 650tx
ATI 4870 1GB
I haven't been around for a while. Any thoughts? Recommendations?
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19. February 2010 @ 10:58 |
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It's a HP branded P5LP-LE Link
It'd seem that confusingly the battery sits perpendicular to the board. Hence the problems.
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19. February 2010 @ 11:15 |
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Omega: You really need to google, it took me a matter of seconds to find the correct model name, i.e. P5LP-LE.
Abuzar: A new PC? but you don't play games! olololol
The 4870 1GB is an old cheap card for a PC with such high specs, a 5850 is a better pairing. You should also be using a Core i5 for anything but a video workstation, as they're much cheaper and every bit as good for playing games.
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19. February 2010 @ 12:06 |
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Originally posted by keith1993:
It's a HP branded P5LP-LE Link
It'd seem that confusingly the battery sits perpendicular to the board. Hence the problems.
Exactly. The battery is erected and thus, the problem. They should have just lay the battery flat on the motherboard.
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19. February 2010 @ 12:25 |
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That's what every other board does... :S
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19. February 2010 @ 12:55 |
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I did an image search. http://Images.google.com Didn't come up with anything. Besides, I wanted to see HIS board. What I did come up with, I did see the batteries opposite the typical. It still seems confusing that the battery would pop out...
Actually, I'm a pretty avid googler :p I gave up after a minute. on this one though. I think I was busy with something else at the time ;)
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19. February 2010 @ 13:32 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Actually, I'm a pretty avid googler :p I gave up after a minute. on this one though. I think I was busy with something else at the time ;)
Originally posted by Schwaber:
Exactly. The battery is erected and thus, the problem.
After the off the shelf assumption and HP being the first result in web search it should of been pretty obvious :)
I must say it's a very odd way of doing things. But if it frees up space on an otherwise cramped motherboard then you can't really complain.
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19. February 2010 @ 17:29 |
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Clearly AVID was a bad choice of words. I do use google, and I usually put forth more effort than last time.
I'm more a listener than a speaker. Perhaps I should stick to what I'm good at :p
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19. February 2010 @ 18:57 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: You really need to google, it took me a matter of seconds to find the correct model name, i.e. P5LP-LE.
Abuzar: A new PC? but you don't play games! olololol
The 4870 1GB is an old cheap card for a PC with such high specs, a 5850 is a better pairing. You should also be using a Core i5 for anything but a video workstation, as they're much cheaper and every bit as good for playing games.
Ahaha I know I don't play games :(. I don't have time. I play them sometimes. It's for a Pseudo MacPro build though so I'll have to stick to the 4870. Idk why I want a core i7. Core i5 huh. That bears thinking upon.
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19. February 2010 @ 20:30 |
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I'm waiting for the i7 930 which should be released at the end of this month. From what I've seen the i5 vs. i7 920(/930 I hope) isn't a whole lot cheaper (~200) depending on the budget and overall cost.
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19. February 2010 @ 21:53 |
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The 930 isn't anything new though, it's the same CPU as a 920 but with a higher clock speed. The 750 is still likely to offer better value.
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20. February 2010 @ 02:46 |
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The i5 is definitely better value wise, only if this was 'value' build I'd probably be putting an AMD in it lol. From what I've read the i7 920 and i5 750 perform extremely similar right now but five years from now I'm guessing the gap between the two will have widened as the i7's higher memory bandwidth and HT capability make more of an impact. Although thinking about cpu's that were released five years ago makes me distinctly aware that such minor performance difference won't mean much, if anything at all. To be honest I'm pretty torn between what I want and what's the best performance/value.
Edit: Did a quick price comparison of the two and the difference is 60$ so unless I change my mind on the 1366 MB I don't see a reason not to spend the extra money.
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20. February 2010 @ 15:45 |
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Hey Sam, how do you check the temperature of your graphic card? Is there a program for that?
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20. February 2010 @ 15:50 |
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Rivatuner, Everest. I'm sure there are others, but those are what I use. Possibly GPU-Z as well. Though I'm not certain on that one.
Whoops, I spoke up...
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20. February 2010 @ 16:35 |
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GPU-Z will do it, as will Everest. GPU-Z offers more detailed info about your graphics card, and can also graph and log it.
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20. February 2010 @ 18:04 |
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The GPU-Z has a virus? Coz my Comodo recognized it as a virus..
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20. February 2010 @ 18:07 |
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Nope. Not sure where you got it from but it's clean in itself. Download it from a reputable site.
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21. February 2010 @ 02:41 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Nope. Not sure where you got it from but it's clean in itself. Download it from a reputable site.
Funny. I downloaded it from this webiste (afterdawn). But anyway, I just ignored the virus notifier coz I know the program is clean.
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21. February 2010 @ 04:02 |
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Sam, or anyone. Please explain to me why the Geforce 210 is so weak. If integrated graphics can beat it, then it has no business being named a series beyond even 9XXX series. A person should be able to go into a store or online and look at a series, and believe that 275 is better than 260, and 295 is better than 275, and 210 is better than ANY predecessor! If not, than that's complete BS! If the 210 is as weak as both Sam and Estuansis say it is, than Nvidia really needs to go down the Shi**er LOL!
What do you automatically think is more powerful. A 3.1 Liter engine, Or a 3.8 Liter? There is virtually ZERO difference here, if you understand me. A Geforce 210 should be better in almost every respect, than any 9XXX series card. I'm not saying I don't believe you guys, I'm actually siding with you. Nvidia should be ashamed!
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21. February 2010 @ 04:32 |
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it has the same number of cores as the 8500GT AT 16, same as the 9400GT and therefore same as the Ion GPU found in netbooks and nettops. Its designed for HTPCs and NOT gaming, though looking at this thread you would think otherwise. It shouldn't be talked about for gaming as its purpose is not for that. As for 1080p playback its perfect.
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21. February 2010 @ 04:35 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
it has the same number of cores as the 8500GT AT 16, same as the 9400GT and therefore same as the Ion GPU found in netbooks and nettops. Its designed for HTPCs and NOT gaming, though looking at this thread you would think otherwise. It shouldn't be talked about for gaming as its purpose is not for that. As for 1080p playback its perfect.
Thanks buddy, that's exactly what I want then. If it can even take a slight load of the CPU for BD playback, then its worth it. Sure not noticing it in XP though. Perhaps windows 7 will right everything ;)
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22. February 2010 @ 12:31 |
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A few more recent game requirement charts
(Note1: Multi-GPU requirements are based on default 80% scaling and not real performance evaluation. In reality, SLI and Crossfire configurations listed may not perform to the standards set)
(Note2: S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Clear Sky tests are extrapolated from data recorded at 1280x1024. Resolutions higher than this may require additional graphics memory, especially when combined with Anti-Aliasing)
(Note3: Aliens vs. Predator and Shattered Horizon do not appear to use Anti-Aliasing at present. If this feature is added, requirements for presets at 'Good' and above will increase)
(Note4: The 'Extreme' preset has not been included as it is not realistic for any of the titles tested using currently available hardware)
Aliens Vs. Predator (AA not inclusive)
DirectX9
Minimal: Radeon HD2900 Pro/HD4670/HD3800 series/HD4700 series or above, Geforce GT220/8800 series/9600 series or above
Reduced: Radeon HD4750/HD4800 series or above, Geforce 9600GT, 8800GT, GT240 or above
Moderate: Radeon HD4890/HD5800 series or above, Geforce GTX260 or above
Good: Radeon HD5870 or above, Geforce GTX285 or above
Optimal: Radeon HD5970 or above, Geforce GTX295 or above
DirectX11
Minimal: Radeon HD5570/HD5600 series or above
Reduced: Radeon HD5700 series or above
Moderate: Radeon HD5800 series or above
Good: Radeon HD5850 or above
Optimal: Radeon HD5970 or above
Shattered Horizon (AA not inclusive)
Minimal: Radeon HD4750/HD4800 series/HD5700 series or above, Geforce 8800GT/9800GT/GTS250 or above
Reduced: Radeon HD4890/HD5800 series or above, Geforce GTX275/GTX285 or above
Moderate: Radeon HD4890 Crossfire/HD5970 or above, Geforce GTX275/285 SLI or above
Good: Radeon HD5870 Crossfire or above, Geforce GTX295 QuadSLI or above
Optimal: Radeon HD5970 Quad Crossfire or above
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat (AA requirements used) (Unsure of Tesselation testing)
DirectX10:
Minimal: Radeon HD3690/HD4600 series/HD5500 series or above, Geforce 8600GT/9500GT/9600 series or above/GT220 or above
Reduced: Radeon HD5570/HD3800 series/HD4700 series or above, Geforce 8800 series/9600GSO (G92) or above/GT240 or above
Moderate: Radeon HD4770/HD4850/HD5750 or above, Geforce 8800GTS G92/9800GTX or above, GTS250 or above
Good: Radeon HD5970 or above, GTX275/280 Tri-SLI or above
Optimal: Radeon HD5870 Crossfire or above, GTX285 QuadSLI
DirectX11:
Minimal: Radeon HD5570 or above
Reduced: Radeon HD5670 or above
Moderate: Radeon HD5750 or above
Good: Radeon HD5870 or above
Optimal: Radeon HD5850 Tri-CF or above
As for CPU requirements, actual test data is not available, however a Core 2 Quad Q9400/Phenom II X4 940 at stock clocks should be able to achieve at least the following results, likely much higher (no CPU boundaries were hit in testing any of the titles)
Aliens vs. Predator: Minimum 40fps (Good preset)
Shattered Horizon: Minimum 20fps (Reduced preset)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call Of Pripyat: Minimum 43fps (Good preset)
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22. February 2010 @ 13:28 |
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Played GTA IV last night for the first time in a very long time. At first, it was showing 35Frames/s, and I was like WHAT! But it seemed to adapt almost immediately. For within a minute it was upwards of 45-55 Frames. I even saw it hitting 60 for a while. I believe the 965 Deneb is showing off its skills once again LOL!
Poor GPU was running pretty warm though. I closed it down after a while, and it was running around 73C. Which is rather warm in my opinion. But I wasn't running evga precision at the time. Now I can ;) I'll be trying arkham asylum pretty soon too :D
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