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3. May 2009 @ 04:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Certainly sounds like a quality company with good products then. Don't have to worry about the fact it cost less factoring into quality. Thanks for the input Russ.

Red_Maw,
You are very welcome. Sceptre did allright by me. Since I'm only about 45 miles away or so from The City of Industry, Ca. I just took it in and picked it up. I got it back in a week, so I can't complain. Shipping is kinda heavy for monitors because of their weight and the size of the package, so there's $45-$50 saved right there, and no tax for repairs! I fixed mine because I couldn't get a better picture for the money. Mine has an S PVA screen, which is 8 bit, rather than the 6 bit of a cheaper TN panel, so I'm able to get true 24 bit 64 million colors. I watch a lot of DVDs on mine, and the picture quality is beautiful, and the colors are lush! The "Mega Race" in Spy Kids 3 2D, is freekin awsum! I also got a lot for my $100 as everything but the covers was replaced! Even the push button switches were replaced! They may have left the speakers, I don't know, I've never used them. I don't even know if they work as they've never been hooked up! ROFL!!

There's a few others here at AD, that have a Sceptre too. I know ZoSo and Sophocles have one, and I've never heard a complaint from either of them. For the money they usually are a pretty good buy!

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4. May 2009 @ 23:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok guys the HAF932 has taken a back seat. look at this bad boy... way t osweet.. it dont havethe big fans but it is sweeeeeet


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Decent looking case if you're into the 'march of the machines's style styling. However, it follows Coolermaster's typical approach to their midrange cases of not including many fans as standard. I'd place this as similar to the RC-690, a nicer design, but no better for cooling, in fact I'd probably place it worse.



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Ehh, not bad. But it does depend on who's looking. Myself, im attracted to monster cases. The HAF is nothing short of awesome for size. Next to the phenomII, its one of my more favorite purchases :D



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looking at the deminsions of my 690 and the scout they are virtually the same. the only thing with the scout it has 1 less spot for a fan to be installed. you can only put 1 fan on the top instead of 2 like the 690 has. but the scout you can use 140mm fans in all the slots available. the 690 can only use them in the top and side panel.

kinda like this fan here. but it seems to be limited to CM only. cant seem to find them for retail sale.
click on the spec once there.
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product....product_id=2918
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I bought a Black Sharkoon 140mm fan for my HAF, 11 blade, 1500rpm, VERY powerful. Not at all quiet, but sounds more like a High speed Tricool than a Delta or FM121.



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I think I'ma switch my dual core rig over to a new case. I found the LianLi PC-7B Plus II on sale at newegg for $90!!! I want it baaaad XD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112099

LianLi makes the sexiest cases I have ever seen. Perfect understated, yet elegant, yet in-your-face looks. Not to mention they are one of few companies to design a good drive bay XD Here's hoping the sale can hold for 2 weeks till I get my paycheck :P



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LianLi does make some very nice cases, unfortunately they are also often very expensive. That one is a bit small for my needs but the styling is great.
Since you're going to have the money in two weeks you might be able to buy it and have the bill you. That way between the order processing and the shipping time for the bill it'll be close enough to pay day to just sit on it.


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sammorris,
I know nothing about servers at all, and I know you have one. It turns out that this one I got is not a 500MHz P-II, it's an Intel server with a 700MHz socket 370 P-III w/4x512 PC133 Ram. It works, but I can't get into it because of the user-name and password. I can't tell you much more about it. It's set up with Novell, but it's useless, as it's passworded, and the only one that knows the password to it is dead!. I know very little about servers, as I don't work on them at all. Someone offered me $100 for it today, and I told him I would let him know. Any ideas?

Thanking You in Advance,
Russ


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There is little wrong with most Lian Li cases apart from sub-par cooling, but as I proved, you can get away with a lot less cooling than you think for PCs.
Lol Estuansis, how long has that remark been at the bottom of your signature? I don't remember it before (It's also against the rules I believe, 4 lines + picture :D)

Russ: To be fair, it is a bit of a 'cheat' server, it runs an end-user grade Windows XP, and is solely used as a remote download and file server machine. It's hardly dedicated hardware and software for the job.
The stuff you're talking about is user-entry networking software, Novell being a very common example of that. Unless it's hooked up to the network it used to be on, Novell being on there no longer has any purpose, as it would have been installed so that it could connect to a large network of other machines also running Novell.
Realistically, you may as well reformat it and start over.



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No offense is ment here and is only my opinion. but that case looks so plain. flat black 4 drive bays 2 floppy bays pretty basic for that kinda price. Once again its only my opinion but there isnt a LanLi case that i would ever buy. they just dont appeal to me,for that kinda price they are asking they need t odo something more than they do.
I know i will take a lashing for my comments but cases again are like cars each has their own preference.

and after seeing the CM scout. i am still wanting the HAF932...lol the scout has the same dimensions as the RC690 but is smaller in available space to work with inside the case. and is a little heavier than the 690. now if i could get a deal on one that i got on my 690 than i would get one, but im still gonna try and get the HAF932 once vacation is over(2 weeks)
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Originally posted by sammorris:
There is little wrong with most Lian Li cases apart from sub-par cooling, but as I proved, you can get away with a lot less cooling than you think for PCs.
Lol Estuansis, how long has that remark been at the bottom of your signature? I don't remember it before (It's also against the rules I believe, 4 lines + picture :D)

Russ: To be fair, it is a bit of a 'cheat' server, it runs an end-user grade Windows XP, and is solely used as a remote download and file server machine. It's hardly dedicated hardware and software for the job.
The stuff you're talking about is user-entry networking software, Novell being a very common example of that. Unless it's hooked up to the network it used to be on, Novell being on there no longer has any purpose, as it would have been installed so that it could connect to a large network of other machines also running Novell.
Realistically, you may as well reformat it and start over.

Sam,
I don't want it for myself. I had a very bad experience repairing a simple Windows network at an Insurance agency about 3 years ago, and I've washed my hands of them completely. I was just interested in whether the $100 I was offered for the console was reasonable or not. It's about 9 years old and it runs fine, and is actually faster than I thought it would be. I don't want to cheat someone, but I also don't want to just give it away either, if it's worth more!

Best Regards,
Russ


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100 bucks is cheap for any PC, but P3s are absolutely ancient. Even the absolute cheapest AMD platform you can buy new (which would cost little more than $100 for CPU, MoBo, RAM, cooler and PSU) would be maybe 4-5 times as powerful at least. 10x if you put a dual core in it.



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You do realise there's a mini HAF right Rob?
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18251




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nice sam. never seen that one before not even at CM site..lol
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I think I'ma switch my dual core rig over to a new case. I found the LianLi PC-7B Plus II on sale at newegg for $90!!! I want it baaaad XD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112099

LianLi makes the sexiest cases I have ever seen. Perfect understated, yet elegant, yet in-your-face looks. Not to mention they are one of few companies to design a good drive bay XD Here's hoping the sale can hold for 2 weeks till I get my paycheck :P

Estuansis,
No offense, but I think you would be better served with something like the case I bought!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106

There's a number of reasons I feel it's a better case. No, it's not Aluminum, but I personally don't like Aluminum cases to begin with as they resonate vibrations differently than with a steel case. Fans that are quiet in a steel case, many times are louder in an Aluminum one. That being said, the Cooler Master has better cooling, sideways HDD bays, which cool about 10C better than they did with the front to rear bay of my old case. It also is tool-less, and has modular case wiring. I also don't much care for a PSU on the bottom, and prefer it in the normal position at the top. It also has a simple elegance to the look, that I personally feel looks very good. Since I only use two optical drives, I added a Scythe, Kama Bay fan which takes up the remaining three bays (lower), that blows nice cool air right at the memory and the CPU cooler. I moved the stock rear fan to the lower front, and it blows cool air right through the sideways HDD bays, and I replaced the rear 120mm with a 53 cfm Blue LED Silverstone to accent the quiet blue lighting on the front!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220031 I also replaced the side air duct with an 80MM silverstone I had on hand, that helps remove the heat from the video card, which is single slot. All in all, it's a very classy looking case, and since none of the fans spin more than 1200 rpm, with the Kama bay fan at only 800 rpm, the noise level, even with 5 fans spinning is quieter than my old CM Cavalier case was with 4. Like I said, it's a very classy looking, and very functional case. Check it out! It's on sale right now at Newegg!

Best Regards,
Russ

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i absolutely lvoe lian-lis restrained refined styling. as rich puts it, its a palace :)

sam didnt like the "lip (dip?)" in my PC-A70B but i absolutely loved it, and coolign wize my case was awesom, but then again i modded it for watercooling.

i know any cases int he alst 6 motnhs that have comeout normally have 140mm in the front ahd 120mm at the back, and lian-li just ooze quality. maan estuansis, your making me want to ditch my silverstone and pick up a shoebox lianli :D.





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Hahah that's an awesome case shaffaaf. Once again the design is awesome, but $240 is a bit expensive for what it is imo.
From what I've seen LianLi's are mainly used/designed for LC so great air cooling isn't really necessary. If I ever decide to do LC build it will definitely be in LianLi ;)


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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
OMG EPIC WANT!

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18290&page=1

Jesus Shaff,
Looks like the entrance to a Whore House! LOL!! Bright SOB ain't it! LOL!! Rob would love it though! ROFLMSOAO!!

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Russ


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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by shaffaaf:
OMG EPIC WANT!

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18290&page=1

Jesus Shaff,
Looks like the entrance to a Whore House! LOL!! Bright SOB ain't it! LOL!! Rob would love it though! ROFLMSOAO!!

Best Regards,
Russ
your 100% right..
now that case i like but you know what it looks almost like a CM...looking at the front of it and my 690 they look the same.. but yea 240 is a bit out of my range
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The 534's not a bad looking case, I much prefer Centurions to Cavaliers. The 120mm side fan is a welcome addition from the 532. Front is also smarter.
Russ: Re Aluminium cases and fans, use a good enough fan and that point is completely moot. Helps to use Sleeve bearings too for quietness at low speeds.

Originally posted by shaffaaf:
i know any cases int he alst 6 motnhs that have comeout normally have 140mm in the front

I have yet to see any case with a 14cm front fan. Ever. There's often a 14cm fan somewhere these days, but rarely the front.

Yuck at the Red Lian Li. Just Yuck! That case in black, however, would be sweet :)




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sam lots of lianlis have front 140 nowadays.

there is a normal version aswell :)

im liking the toolfree psu holder.




seriously estuansis i dont have money right now, stop putting thoughts into my head!!! :D



mmmm this has 1 120mm in the front but 2 140mm fitted in the roof. im sure the air cooling is enough ;)

the fans have rubber rings around the screws.


http://www.lian-li.com.tw/v2/en/product/...index=62&g=spec

theres the original



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Then it's only Lian-Lis, and even so I have yet to see one.
How do you not have any money when you sold your £1200 PC and spent a quarter as much to replace it?

Also note the case you linked to has a 120mm front fan like normal.



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There is little wrong with most Lian Li cases apart from sub-par cooling, but as I proved, you can get away with a lot less cooling than you think for PCs.
Ha, I intend to put some higher CFM red LED fans in it with vibration dampeners. Nice and quiet with better cooling :)

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Lol Estuansis, how long has that remark been at the bottom of your signature? I don't remember it before (It's also against the rules I believe, 4 lines + picture :D)

Haha caught me. Been there for roughly a week XD What fourth line though? ;P

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No offense is ment here and is only my opinion. but that case looks so plain. flat black 4 drive bays 2 floppy bays pretty basic for that kinda price. Once again its only my opinion but there isnt a LanLi case that i would ever buy. they just dont appeal to me,for that kinda price they are asking they need t odo something more than they do.
I know i will take a lashing for my comments but cases again are like cars each has their own preference.
I think the looks are fantastic. A red LED fan in the front to add some menace and nothing more. It's what's on the inside that counts ;)

The internal design is to-die-for IMO. Perfect for the configuration I have planned. It has a lot to do with the quality of the materials used and the actual design of the PC. Lian Li's have all sorts of cool little design features that most cases just don't have. Look at the HDD bay in that case. See what I mean? It's loaded with little tweaks like that. Perfect for a clean and tidy case with good airflow :)

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Estuansis,
No offense, but I think you would be better served with something like the case I bought!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...1119106


Actually, the machine being moved to a new case is already in a Centurion. I have specific needs that the Lian Li case meets exactly and perfectly.

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There's a number of reasons I feel it's a better case. No, it's not Aluminum, but I personally don't like Aluminum cases to begin with as they resonate vibrations differently than with a steel case. Fans that are quiet in a steel case, many times are louder in an Aluminum one. That being said, the Cooler Master has better cooling, sideways HDD bays, which cool about 10C better than they did with the front to rear bay of my old case. It also is tool-less, and has modular case wiring. I also don't much care for a PSU on the bottom, and prefer it in the normal position at the top. It also has a simple elegance to the look, that I personally feel looks very good. Since I only use two optical drives, I added a Scythe, Kama Bay fan which takes up the remaining three bays (lower), that blows nice cool air right at the memory and the CPU cooler. I moved the stock rear fan to the lower front, and it blows cool air right through the sideways HDD bays, and I replaced the rear 120mm with a 53 cfm Blue LED Silverstone to accent the quiet blue lighting on the front!
I have extensive plans to reduce vibration noise and with even better fans than the stock ones. This will be a quiet case with good cooling when I'm done with it. Also, the one I linked to has a top-mount PSU :)

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maan estuansis, your making me want to ditch my silverstone and pick up a shoebox lianli :D.
They are sexy aren't they? I've been meaning to get at least one Lian Li case for over a year now :)

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Yuck at the Red Lian Li. Just Yuck! That case in black, however, would be sweet :)
I disagree. I think it has the right balance of colors and style to pull the look off. Uber sexy IMO.

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seriously estuansis i dont have money right now, stop putting thoughts into my head!!! :D
ROFLMAO. Go buy one right now. Sell everything and buy just the case. It'll play Crysis maxed when empty ;P

Remember everyone. I am not held down by how the case is out-of-box. That's why it's called a CUSTOM PC ;P



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