Originally posted by sammorris:

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The 534's not a bad looking case, I much prefer Centurions to Cavaliers. The 120mm side fan is a welcome addition from the 532. Front is also smarter.
Russ: Re Aluminium cases and fans, use a good enough fan and that point is completely moot. Helps to use Sleeve bearings too for quietness at low speeds.

Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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i know any cases int he alst 6 motnhs that have comeout normally have 140mm in the front

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I have yet to see any case with a 14cm front fan. Ever. There's often a 14cm fan somewhere these days, but rarely the front.

Yuck at the Red Lian Li. Just Yuck! That case in black, however, would be sweet :)

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As quiet as possible is going a lot further than just using sleeve bearing fans.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Silent, if only :P
As quiet as possible is going a lot further than just using sleeve bearing fans. An aftermarket GPU cooler is a wise idea (though the stock XFX cooler on the 4830 is relatively good, but only if you use Catalyst, it's pretty poor otherwise as the fan speed is very aggressive by default)
Green 5400rpm hard drives only, a select set of PSUs (that means no oCZ), no case fan above 700rpm for 120mm or 900rpm for 80mm. Them you have a truly quiet system. It's easily doable as I proved, and using relatively high end parts in a case not remotely designed for quietness.
Agreed though, this is impossible to achieve with ball bearing fans, 7200rpm HDDs (vibration) and most stock GPU coolers and Power supplies. To give you an idea, a Corsair HX520 at idle fan speed would completely drown out my system at idle, and be as loud as it when gaming, if not louder.
Temps
CPU: 35ºC idle, 45-50ºC load (Fanless)
GPU: 65-7ºC idle (500rpm)(40%), 71-75ºC load (1100rpm)(55%)
PSU: c. 40ºC (370rpm)
Case fans: NZXT 120mm 1100 @ 400rpm (Rear Exhaust), SFF21F 1600 @ 600rpm (Front intake)

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Once again, quiet is relative. At 53CFM, most fans are what I would term 'noisy', i.e. on their own they turn PC from being inaudible until you listen for it, to clearly audible at all times. Also, the rear fan is only quieter because it's at the back of the case not the front. Since the Kama Bay is pure exposed air (which is why I dislike cases like the Antec 900 for having exposed front fans) it makes a lot more noise. Put that 800mm Scythe at the back and the Silverstone at the front, and you'd start hating the Silverstone I assure you.

Aluminium cases transmit vibrations more than other cases, but as I say, cut the fan speed low enough and you still can't hear them anyway. However I much prefer Alu cases to Steel ones for weight, and also for strength. You can bend Steel case side panels with your bare hands, as a result a lot of the steel cases I've had have had bent side panels that no longer fit, so I had to get the pliers out to bend them back into shape so the case would shut. I had to this with my Lexa Blackline (as that version is steel vs. the original Lexa's aluminium), and also had to do it with the HAF, merely a week after I bought it, as the material can't really take the extra weight of the side panel being twice the size.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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The Kama Bay is a ball bearing? Are you sure? I thought all Scythe fans were either Sleeve or FDB.
Realistically, my PC performs the same as yours, and makes a hell of a lot less noise doing it. It cost comparatively very little to build (about £350 excluding Case and Mobo) and can keep up with most gaming PCs. Temps in my mind are fine, as it's nowhere near close to overheating, and actually has ample room to overclock, though I haven't tried yet.

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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anandtech reportings of RC1 of Win7 that the performance is around the same, some thigns are a few (i mean literally, 1 or 2) seconds better than vista some arnt by the same amount (both 64 bit) and overall both 64 bits are alot better than xp 64 (esp in gaming).


i just want my vista style task bar and im ready to swtich

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All the hype about it and it turns out to be roughly the same, rather disappointing imo. Probably just going to stick with linux as my next OS if I can get it to work properly.

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Also, airflow noise is 95% WHAT the fan is attached to, not the fan itself.

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Linux is very powerful and useful

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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but it's a hassle to do even basic tasks

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Originally posted by Estuansis:

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Almost everything is command line based.

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