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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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7. May 2009 @ 00:35 |
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LOL creaky. People allow themselves to intimidated too easily. OH...thats me LOL!!! If there were no challenges in life, there would be no progress. I dont know if anyone has ever said that, but it sure makes sense.
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7. May 2009 @ 02:29 |
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Well I've spent quite a bit of time with several different distros of Linux. Testing and learning what the limits are. I'm not adept, but I can make some use of it if I have to. The only thing keeping me from converting and getting in-depth is the fact that I play games. Without full games functionality, Linux is about as useful to me as using my parents' old Celeron D.
I'm not a multi-media enthusiast. And I don't do much, if any, burning. Nor am I a programmer or graphic artist. So many of the finer advantages of Linux are lost to me. All my machines were built to play games to some extent.
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7. May 2009 @ 02:43 |
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I do however understand where your coming from Estuansis. I do like PLUG AND PLAY. Certainly when I "just want it to work" LOL!
I REALLY wanna try my hand at programming. It'll happen! I don't give up very easily. And since I spend more time on a computer then is healthy (LOL), it shouldn't take as long as one would think. Just know that when I do produce a fundamental change to the world of programming, it won't be for the money. BELIEVE IT. Its simply the way I am :D Im interested in the betterment of mankind!!!
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7. May 2009 @ 04:59 |
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I do however understand where your coming from Estuansis. I do like PLUG AND PLAY. Certainly when I "just want it to work" LOL!
Right. My machines revolve around working as well as possible with every game and program. Which includes playing well with other PCs as well. Linux is great for the geek community, but sadly, program compatibility just isn't there. Gaming can be done on Linux, but only with a few choice games. Not to mention it throws my sound card and Crossfire out the window :P
I can program to an extent. Basic high school courses on visual basic and C/C++/C#. So I have a good structural foundation. But I want to work on hardware, not software :)
Meh, working some bugs out of my Logitech MX518 after I painted and rebuilt it. Adjusting tactile response on the buttons and moving my added weights and whatnot. I fancy myself a bit of a hardware modder. I've got custom work in every case in my room XD
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7. May 2009 @ 15:21 |
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7. May 2009 @ 15:29 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Sounds like bad news for Vista lovers
Microsoft may discontinue Vista as early as the official release of Windows 7! Support will continue until 2012!
Cor lummee. That speaks volumes about Vista, and of XP. XP's execution had been (repeatedly) staved off 'til next year and Vista is swapping places on the chopping block eh. Shame :)
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Windows 7 could be released within months, and the Windows 7 Release Candidate is now available.
Vista, originally expected to replace Windows XP and remain available for years to come, was never a hit among consumers or businesses. Many people complained that Vista was simply too bloated and includes too many annoying security prompts that are not necessary for every day use.
"It's been a long time since we've had a version of Windows that will actually run better (than the previous version) on the hardware that most customers have," Microsoft VP of Windows product management Mike Nash said during a conference call.
If Windows 7 truly is months away from release, I have a hard time believing Microsoft will keep Vista around any longer than it needs to. The marketing push has already shifted away from Vista, and will continue to promote Windows 7 as the launch date comes closer.
Furthermore, Microsoft has received criticism for Vista on all sides, and most likely just wants consumers to forget about it as soon as possible.
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7. May 2009 @ 15:47 |
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Stability:
XP > Vista > 98 > 95 > 3.1 > Me
Performance:
98 > XP > (Most MS OSes until 2030) > Vista
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7. May 2009 @ 15:49 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Stability:
XP > Vista > 98 > 95 > 3.1 > Me
Performance:
98 > XP > (Most MS OSes until 2030) > Vista
*creaky chokes on his Apple Pie & custard*
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7. May 2009 @ 16:43 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Stability:
XP > Vista > 98 > 95 > 3.1 > Me
Performance:
98 > XP > (Most MS OSes until 2030) > Vista
Sam,
I may be dense, but could you please explain what that all that means, because I don't have a clue,,especially the last line!
TIA,
Russ
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7. May 2009 @ 16:52 |
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mien would be
vista>98>XP (the one si have used)
Vista>xp>98
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7. May 2009 @ 18:10 |
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> = Better than
so Stability x > y > z
means x is better than y, y is better than z.
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7. May 2009 @ 21:09 |
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& "a" is better then them all.
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7. May 2009 @ 21:14 |
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LOL at your treatment of Windows Me and Vista. Vista isn't near as bad as Me was. At least Vista is mostly functional and decently intuitive to use. In Me I've had it stop detecting a basic USB optical mouse that worked fine in 2000 on another machine. Me was a waste. 2000 was actually pretty nice.
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7. May 2009 @ 21:22 |
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Hence putting Me at the bottom for stability. It was still a much faster OS than Vista is though.
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7. May 2009 @ 21:26 |
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Yeah but with an able machine, the performance in Vista is close to that of XP. It's supposed to take advantage of the newest and fastest hardware. Only problem was it was too big a jump for even slightly aged entry-level hardware. Which most home users have.
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7. May 2009 @ 22:14 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Stability:
XP > Vista > 98 > 95 > 3.1 > Me
Performance:
98 > XP > (Most MS OSes until 2030) > Vista
Sam,
Only after Microsoft crippled the hell out of service pack 3, as far as most MS OSes until 2030 go! Before that, XP-Pro was faster! It was a ruse Microsoft pulled to show that Vista was the superior and faster OS. Nothing more than a marketing ploy to try and insure Vista's sales! If you have the original final release of SP3 installed, it's faster than Vista. As far as I know MS won't let you install it anymore. I haven't tried it yet, but I have had people that I gave the original to tell me that it craps out after the Validation process and gives you a link to the new one. I haven't tried to do it yet because I'm on one of the old P-IIs at the moment as I just sent the 7750BE back to AMD today. Besides, with all the security crap and double checking to be sure if you really want to do something, it takes longer to do things anyway. I does have the distinction of being the only other MS OS, besides ME that had incompatibilities with itself! Let's be honest here, most people, at least here in the States, hate Vista. That's why we will have a Win 7 to begin with! Microsoft hasn't decided when to pull the plug on it, but I doubt if it will be very long after Win 7 proves itself in real world use, at the very latest!
Vista support stops in April of 2012 anyway, so it will be supported at least until then, and computer manufacturers have been left completely in the dark as to whether they will even be allowed to ship computers with Vista on them after Win 7 is officially released.
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Russ
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8. May 2009 @ 00:54 |
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when this bad boy here gonna be released to the public...I gotta get hold of cooler master and get my order in...
922 MidTower
that would look great sitting next to the 590
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8. May 2009 @ 05:53 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
when this bad boy here gonna be released to the public...I gotta get hold of cooler master and get my order in...
922 MidTower
that would look great sitting next to the 590
Happy Building:)
Will,
Interesting looking case! It wouldn't fare well here though with all those nooks and crannys. Too much dust, and the bay covers would be a bitch to keep clean!
Best Regards,
Russ
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8. May 2009 @ 08:38 |
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I don't remember SP3 being any slower than SP2.
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8. May 2009 @ 12:11 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I don't remember SP3 being any slower than SP2.
The version after they fixed the AMD/SP3 problem was a good bit (noticeably) faster than SP2. The one you get now is about 10-15% slower. They changed it after comparative testing between Vista and XP, showed that XP was faster. The older version will not work. I just tried to install it and it no longer works at all. That's how Vista suddenly became faster! It was right after all those much publicized shoot-outs and which is faster articles. I mentioned that a while ago on AD that they had crippled something in XP-Pro, and that it suddenly ran slower! I don't know where you were at the time, but there were a number of comments on it.
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8. May 2009 @ 12:39 |
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I haven't noticed that at all on any of my machines. And they all run XP Pro. Can you show me an article telling what they changed? If anything, my performance has been much better since SP3.
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8. May 2009 @ 13:08 |
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Russ
Wrote:
Will,
Interesting looking case! It wouldn't fare well here though with all those nooks and crannys. Too much dust, and the bay covers would be a bitch to keep clean!
Best Regards,
Russ
All it take Russ is a good air compressor to do the Job:) I don't have one of my own that's y ...I bring mind to work to get the job good and done right every so often I wipe my fan blades and housing down to get the dust down...I can't stand dust build up of my fans:)
Happy Building:)
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8. May 2009 @ 16:10 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I haven't noticed that at all on any of my machines. And they all run XP Pro. Can you show me an article telling what they changed? If anything, my performance has been much better since SP3.
Estuansis,
The so called "Final" original was faster. I discovered it quite a while ago when I installed SP3 on my E6750, after a fresh install of XP on another Seagate 160. If I put the drive back in that I removed and the speed comes back. I no longer put SP3 on anything. Like I told Sam, I posted it on the thread, and I'm sorry, but not going to go back and dig through all those posts in the last 6 to 8 months to find it. I'm not even sure which thread it's on!
Nobody seems to know why, but it affects download speeds, throttling, and memory speed under certain conditions. Before that, XP was about 10% faster than Vista.
Best Regards,
Russ
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8. May 2009 @ 16:37 |
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Russ, I believe I recall you saying SP3 was, in fact, faster than ever.
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8. May 2009 @ 20:17 |
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I can perhaps consider SP3 being faster for AMDs, but if I recall, AMDs needed a dual core hotfix for Windows XP. Perhaps the earlier hotfix was incompatible with the newer versions of SP3?
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