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18. May 2009 @ 14:06 |
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I've never had a truly failed CPU. But I got a Q9450 with stuck thermistors. So I returned it and got a Q6600 instead. It still hit 3.7GHz so no big loss XD
I also had an Evga 7600GT with a blown cap(they sent a 7900GS for $20 because the 7600 was OOP and I ebayed it), A Plextor DVD-RW Stardocked, a GA-965P-DS3 with a blown cap(they replaced it with the v1.33 board for free), and a GA-M61P-S3.
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18. May 2009 @ 14:15 |
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i have had:
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18. May 2009 @ 16:02 |
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I have a rant for the day. I woke up today and like many others around here had a NewEgg email about an OCZ 30GB SSD for $99 after $20 rebate.
After doing basic research on it I decide to buy because I've been interested in SSD technology and had a few dollars burning a hole.
Everything goes well and receive confirmation of transaction email and the world is happy. About an hour later while looking for 2.5 to 3.5 bay internal adapter I noticed those drives were sold out. I was glad I had made my order. Well I just recieved another email saying the payment was declined and this was with a payment method in their system that hasnt changed in the last 20 times I've ordered.
I'm thinking they oversold and are using it as a method to protect themselves from liability.
I went back and resumbit payment information but no confirmation respone and after nothing but good words about Neweggs service I'm kinda wondering at the moment.
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18. May 2009 @ 16:18 |
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sammorris,
Number of failed components I've had with personal builds in 20 years
CPUs: 4 1 Pentium 200 (DOA), 1 Pentium D (MB failure), 1 E6750 (Voltage, my fault), 1 7750BE (Chipset Problem)
Ram : 0
HDDs: 3 1 WD 1GB, 1 Maxtor 80GB (firmware problem), 1 Seagate 160 (DOA FedEx destroyed)
PSUs: 3 1 Black Chrome 460w, 1 Cool Max 500w, 1 Thermaltake 500w TR-2
GPUs: 0
ODDs: 8 1 Sony/NEC/Optiarc AD7170 (PSU Failure), 1 Pioneer, (2 Pioneer, 2 Lite-On*) *Chipset problem with motherboard. All 4 were probably OK, 1 Sony (Twice, the replacement failed as well) Sony would not honor the warranty because their replacement was a re-built drive with a 90 day warranty. Only got 6 months of use out of them combined!
M/Bs: 4 2 Asus P5P-800SE (same one twice), 1 Gigabyte P35-DS3R Rev 1.0, 1 Gigabyte 790P-UD4H
Customer builds (over 300 in 20 years)
CPUs: 0
Ram : 1 stick of Kingston 512MB DDR
HDDs: 0
PSUs: 2 Cool max 500w
GPUs: 0
ODDs: 1 Lite-On
M/B : 4 1 Biostar M6100 (Incorrect bios from BioStar, their error), 1 Biostar 780GX (DOA), 2 Asus P5N-E SLI (assorted horrors, LOL!)
I've also had 1 motherboard that wouldn't run a P4 Prescot CPU (ECS), even though it said they were supported. It was replaced with an Asus P4P-800SE. Given the number of builds involved, I've had very few problems with customer builds. I've also probably forgotten a few things over 20 years, but overall, I've had great success with customer builds!
Footnote: AMD shipped my CPU today. Not their fault for the delay. UPS managed to take 7 days for a 6 day delivery. Their fault entirely as it sat at LAX for 4 days. That's why it was a day late, ariving at AMD Late Friday afternoon. It took less than one working day for AMD to test the old one (Defective) and ship the replacement back to me! It's on it's way, with none of the BS that Intel gives you, and they don't require the CPU cooler back, just the CPU!
Best Regards,
Russ
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18. May 2009 @ 16:40 |
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
I have a rant for the day. I woke up today and like many others around here had a NewEgg email about an OCZ 30GB SSD for $99 after $20 rebate.
After doing basic research on it I decide to buy because I've been interested in SSD technology and had a few dollars burning a hole.
Everything goes well and receive confirmation of transaction email and the world is happy. About an hour later while looking for 2.5 to 3.5 bay internal adapter I noticed those drives were sold out. I was glad I had made my order. Well I just recieved another email saying the payment was declined and this was with a payment method in their system that hasnt changed in the last 20 times I've ordered.
I'm thinking they oversold and are using it as a method to protect themselves from liability.
I went back and resumbit payment information but no confirmation respone and after nothing but good words about Neweggs service I'm kinda wondering at the moment.
Deadrum33,
I would absolutely disagree with you there! Newegg has always extended the deal on any sold out item, unless it a strict quantity thing, where stock at that price was limited! I guarantee if you call them and explain the problem, they will take care of it, at the price quoted. That's why I do almost all my buying from them! It may cost me a few dollars more than shopping around, but their customer service is second to none, and that makes the small difference in price worth it to me!
My best Newegg story! They gave me an instant $30 credit when I sent them a copy of the e-mail Corsair sent me, claiming that they had never gotten the rebate form for my current memory, when I checked it on line. 30 days later the rebate arrived, and I called Newegg to offer payment back for the credit they gave me. They refused and told me to consider it a gift from Newegg! They are the best, and they do bend over backwards for you!
Respectfully,
Russ
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18. May 2009 @ 20:59 |
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I guess I was paranoid and hadnt ranted on anything lately, I've been putting together my daughters swingset/tree house/slide/rock climbing wall combo for the last few days and with my wife bitchin about it not being done yet and we shouldve just paid the $500 extra to have the "professionals" do it I was a little stressed when I typed ...I just received notice that my account was charged after I resubmit the information and I feel silly for jumping the gun.
So it turns into me asking if any regulars have experience with SSD's... also I will say that I plan to make this a primary disc for Win 7RC and see how well it handles my home server needs until I learn what the new stuff can and cant do then format it and put the drive in a HTPC I plan later on. OCZ forums are very helpful but again anyone here have experience?
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19. May 2009 @ 04:37 |
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Nope, i'm not going near SSD's until they're guaranteed to not wear out. Right now they're no different to VHS tapes albeit faster. I do use SD cards in a poundshop SD adapter as glorified USB sticks, i don't think they wear out as quick as SSD's. Also, i made sure not to buy an SSD model netbook but a normal hard drive for the same reason, though i'd read that built-in netbook SSD's (at least on the Acer Aspire One anyways) are too slow for use as an OS drive.
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19. May 2009 @ 10:08 |
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They are too slow really. Normal desktop SSDs seem to be doing better now, but they're just incredibly expensive. The best approach is of course to use several in a proper RAID array, so you get speed and redundancy, but honestly, the prospect of £780 worth of SSDs and a proper RAID card on top just for 120GB of storage isn't that appealing...
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19. May 2009 @ 17:17 |
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Hey Sam,
Do the usb ports screw with you, or the reset button on the HAF 932? Cause every once in a while, when im fooling in that area, the computer will restart. I went to plug something into the a usb port, barely nudged a flashdrive below it, and I mean LIGHTLY! Right when I touched the port, it restarted. TWICE!! Im now wondering if the HAF's ports, are what blew my 16Gb Kingston flashdrive. So it sounds like there may be loose connections in that area there. I wonder if anyone else has had this trouble. I'll have to run some searches later. If it blew my flash drive, im gonna be complaining about it. I loved that drive darnit! :)
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19. May 2009 @ 18:02 |
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All the front USB ports are dodgy, I can only plug USB sticks into them. iphones don't sync properly, my little gameoptics screen strobes and makes the hardware found & removed sounds every 2 seconds. I was suspecting my Mobo, but given you also have this issue, I think I know what to suspect.
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19. May 2009 @ 18:16 |
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Ok. Thanks for the info. I probably wont use the front too much anymore. At least not til I can take it apart, and find the problem, if I can. I never have problems with my external hub(walmart bought). Im probably gonna try and hold out on anything usb related til 3.0 is released. Though, im gonna need a replacement 16gb drive. It was a handy little devil. >:)
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19. May 2009 @ 20:50 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Ok. Thanks for the info. I probably wont use the front too much anymore. At least not til I can take it apart, and find the problem, if I can. I never have problems with my external hub(walmart bought). Im probably gonna try and hold out on anything usb related til 3.0 is released. Though, im gonna need a replacement 16gb drive. It was a handy little devil. >:)
Oman7,
Interesting! I've had difficulty running things that draw a lot of power on the front USB ports, yet they always work fine on the rear ones as long as they aren't on a break out panel plugged into the MB! I can {for some reason) use my wireless 108G adapter without problems. I have a 32MB Flash drive and it acts flaky plugged into the front USB ports, in fact any drive over 4GB gives problems. I think it's the resistance of the additional wiring that causes it!
Best Regards,
Russ
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19. May 2009 @ 20:56 |
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Sorry, I'm not buying that. USB cables aren't that thin inside, and a flash drive draws all of 600-700mA. A wire that runs in a molex connector will happily pass 5-6A.
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19. May 2009 @ 21:58 |
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sam, russ has a point as i've seen that happen on a fair number of computers including mine. most of the time when using my 40gig laptop drive, it has to be plugged into the back usb ports to work wereas if in the front ports, it just goes tick tick tick. didn't have that problem when using a 6.4gig laptop drive but do when i switched over to the 40 gig drive.
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19. May 2009 @ 23:03 |
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HDDs are much different as they absolutely require the most power USB has to offer. Most drives either require external power or two USB connnectors. It shouldn't happen with flash drives.
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19. May 2009 @ 23:22 |
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the 6.4gig laptop drive normaly used just 1 usb connector wereas the 40gig needed 2 usb connectors.
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20. May 2009 @ 00:20 |
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My HP pavilion and MSI barebone never had problems with their front connectors. This one is MOST Unusual. I barely touched the port today, and the computer rebooted! How unusual is that. Its almost like it was shocked by static electricity.
Hmmm...every attempt to recreate the occurrence has failed now. Figures! When one tries to find a problem, there wont be one. But when I stop looking, it will present itself again LOL!
Oh, and another time, I set something on top of the tower, and it rebooted. Like a vibration caused it. Because I dont believe I hit the reset button. Perhaps thats the problem, a loose reset connection!
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20. May 2009 @ 00:25 |
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the fron usbs slots worked when i used the board...
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20. May 2009 @ 00:29 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
the fron usbs slots worked when i used the board...
You had my board?
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20. May 2009 @ 01:06 |
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sam bought his board off me.
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20. May 2009 @ 01:11 |
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Finally good to be back, can no way type all the things that have been going on, after getting back from the UK in April I finally got my 4th hip revision done yuck, just so glad it's over, I'm in big time pain but should go away in another week.
I must say being in the UK again was another great experiance, if anybody remembers way back on this thread I meantioned how suprised I was at how much bigger the cost's of PC's and parts were, Creaky did comment and complain about those costs also, I can understand the frustration, but I must admit you guys on many most other things have it way better than us here in the states, if you were to weigh all the things out you guys are way better than us. But that would another story and another thread, maybe I should start one An American's View of the UK LOL, that would probably be intersting.
Anyway, I was also suprised that even in a small town like Peterbourough you guys had these electronic stores, like our Bestbuys but smaller, hardly any build PC's for sale but a huge amount of parts, if I was there I would see no need to even order from sites like newegg or probably sites that you have have yourselves unless you can get much better deals of course, but I saw in those stores was every available part for builds right down to screws and nuts, sure we have some parts for builds at our so called bestbuys but no where near to do a complete build, either way I was impressed.
I was unfortunate not to have a set of wheels while there but did get around some, I visited one of my friends friend that was a so called computer whiz, he was not home, I saw one of his builds, I was shocked I never saw anything like it, it was huge, If I was to open the damn thing up and stick a rod in it I would be able to hang shirts in it, I took pic's of it and was gonna send them over when I got home thinking I was gonna make an impression on the boys at AD, but it was to no avail, I do keep in touch with Russ all the time, after explaining to him what I saw it was just what you guys call a full tower, oh well blew my high, if thats what full towers look like I was still shocked, I actually never saw one and never thought they were that big, anyway it was a Thermalake Kandolf if that makes any sense, it's what it said on the case.
Forgive me on getting off subject a little bit but to get on it, have read about some of you guys have trouble with front port USB's, I think I have been lucky, with that build of mine I of course ordered one, I have never had any problems at all, I have all kinds of sticks, between my kids and myself we have 4, 8, 16 and 32gb's sticks, we have used all with no problems, am keeping my fingers crossed, other than all that, glad to be back.
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20. May 2009 @ 01:38 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
I must say being in the UK again was another great experience
You lucky dog!!! Thats one of the places I HAVE to see before I meet my maker LOL! Its comparable to my Home state, for green landscape. I chatted a while back, with a woman on WinMX, and she sent me some pics of the UK. Ive been in awe ever since!
No worries, I always get to the bottom of things LOL! I will find the problem associated with my spontaneous restarts. Whoops! I don't believe in spontaneous! LOL!!!
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20. May 2009 @ 01:40 |
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meh the UK aint all that its chalked up to be :(
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20. May 2009 @ 01:48 |
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LOL, maybe not for you UK Homies, but for us from the states as for myself I yiked it big time. And omegaman7, Ihope some day you do get the opportunity, there are no better schools films or books that can give any better knowledge than actually bieng there.
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20. May 2009 @ 01:56 |
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Guaranteed! I plan on doing some traveling before I go. France(paris), Hawaii, UK, Australia, etc. :)
So what kind of case, would an avid builder recommend for an HTPC. And when I say HTPC, im talking a small desktop-like case. Should look somewhat appealing. :)
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