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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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28. May 2009 @ 03:30 |
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Well, that's always been the case. There have been $1000 extreme edition CPUs since the start. Go back far enough and they just weren't called such. At one stage a P3 500mhz would set you back £600.
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28. May 2009 @ 03:36 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, that's always been the case. There have been $1000 extreme edition CPUs since the start. Go back far enough and they just weren't called such. At one stage a P3 500mhz would set you back £600.
LOL! It isn't worth a red cent now though ;)
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28. May 2009 @ 05:13 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, that's always been the case. There have been $1000 extreme edition CPUs since the start. Go back far enough and they just weren't called such. At one stage a P3 500mhz would set you back £600.
LOL! It isn't worth a red cent now though ;)
Hey now, don't be saying that! I just spent Big Bucks for a 1.0GHz Coppermine P-III for a backup computer I made out of that server I had! Cost me all of $10.81 including shipping! LOL!! It even works quite well! ROFLMSOAO!!
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28. May 2009 @ 11:17 |
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Ok, perhaps that was a bit harsh. Even a 500Mhz processor has some use left :)
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28. May 2009 @ 12:56 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Ok, perhaps that was a bit harsh. Even a 500Mhz processor has some use left :)
My iPod Touch has a 532MHz processor :D
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28. May 2009 @ 22:25 |
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Done out of Here!
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29. May 2009 @ 07:34 |
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I only have results for the 700W to go on, but the Silent Pro is better than anything Coolermaster have made before. It's more efficient, rivalling the top brands, it's geninely quiet - no competition for the best of the best, but quieter than the majority of PSUs, and as quiet as even the best units (Zalman, Nexus) up to 150W load, which should be idle for most systems. Electrically, it performs much better than Coolermasters of old.
Downside is it's quite pricey, at $105 for the 600W unit, and the 12V rail capacity is more in keeping with a 525W PSU. Generally, trying to get more than 400-450W out of this unit on a regular basis would be unwise due to this and the 55ºC+ temperatures the unit exhibits.
Ultimately, it's quiet, it's electrically solid, but at the end of it all it's still a Coolermaster, there are still better brands to buy from.
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30. May 2009 @ 22:41 |
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You know...we're never happy are we? I got a program running faster than its ever ran before, and im still saying COME ON!!! LOL! Apollo Divx to dvd. It is much quicker than it used to be. Before this quad, I was happy to see an hour long encode, maybe an hour and a half. Now im seeing 20 - 30 minutes, and im still jumping up and down for it to hurry LOL! Could you imagine, 4 phenom II's on one ATX board. WOW WOW WOW!!! Thats all I've got to say about that.
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30. May 2009 @ 23:55 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
You know...we're never happy are we? I got a program running faster than its ever ran before, and im still saying COME ON!!! LOL! Apollo Divx to dvd. It is much quicker than it used to be. Before this quad, I was happy to see an hour long encode, maybe an hour and a half. Now im seeing 20 - 30 minutes, and im still jumping up and down for it to hurry LOL! Could you imagine, 4 phenom II's on one ATX board. WOW WOW WOW!!! Thats all I've got to say about that.
20-30mins to convert xvid to dvd? normal time for me is 11-14 mins. thats with a C2D. maybe you should try convertXtodvd. awsome program
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31. May 2009 @ 02:06 |
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31. May 2009 @ 15:52 |
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1. June 2009 @ 14:45 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
you can never have enough HDD's
ha ha! I just bought another WD FALS 1Tb drive. You may be right creaky. And with the price being down on the drive, it gave me the right nudge :D
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1. June 2009 @ 16:26 |
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Hey dru3692 that looks like a business class video capture card that can use many cameras! I am no expert at all, but I have helped my friends at the local liquor store with their surveillance hardware when they were looking to upgrade.
Oman---Had to bring up hard drives didntcha...a few weeks ago I started experimenting with setting up Win7 on a new 30 GB OCZ Vertex SSD and compared it to a freshly format 30GB partition of a new Samsung Spinpoint (HD103UJ) I had laying around. I had to post the results since builds with SSD's havent been discussed...
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There are a few tweaks you need to do to keep your OS from excessive writes to your disc (XP, Vista, not so much other resource hungry OS) because writes slow these things down quicker than a regular hard drive. You cant do continual benchmarks, you will see a noticable speed degradation due to the writing of the different size chucks it then reads. firmware updates are fixing that and there is a program a "wiper" of sorts that you can manually run until firmware+win7 makes it seamless.
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1. June 2009 @ 16:29 |
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Hey dru3692 that looks like a business class video capture card that can use many cameras! I am no expert at all, but I have helped my friends at the local liquor store with their surveillance hardware when they were looking to upgrade.
O-man---Had to bring up hard drives didntcha...a few weeks ago I started experimenting with setting up Win7 on a new 30 GB OCZ Vertex SSD and compared it to a freshly format 30GB partition of a new Samsung Spinpoint (HD103UJ) I had laying around. I had to post the results since builds with SSD's havent been discussed...
SAMSUNG
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There are a few tweaks you need to do to keep your OS from excessive writes to your disc (XP, Vista, not so much other resource hungry OS) because writes slow these things down quicker than a regular hard drive. You cant do continual benchmarks, you will see a noticable speed degradation due to the writing of the different size chucks it then reads. firmware updates are fixing that and there is a program a "wiper" of sorts that you can manually run until firmware+win7 makes it seamless.
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5. June 2009 @ 01:19 |
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5. June 2009 @ 02:29 |
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OK. My thoughts are, you have a pretty cheap build going on there. But know this. You get what you pay for. I don't mean to insult, TOTALLY not insulting you. Fact of the matter is ive been there.
In my opinion, you can get a better hard drive for a few more dollars. Larger cache, and longer warranty. for only 15$ more. The Western Digital FALS 1Tb drive. If you've had trouble with Western digital in the past, im sorry to hear that. It is fairly rare after all. Seagate on the other hand, I hear nasty things about all the time.
The motherboard: I think your processor would fair better with a 790 northbridge. Help me out guys??? Your board may only BARELY handle the PhenomII. I dont know myself.
The Power Supply: I would spend more on that component. Its arguably the heart of a computer. And Cooler masters are not praised for there skills in manufacturing a power supply LOL! Stick with Corsair, or PC Power And Cooling. They appear to Know how to make quality PSU's!
Everything else looks good though :D
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5. June 2009 @ 03:45 |
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Originally posted by Tap_paT:
Hey, I've been wanting to build my own PC for a while now, Can anyone tell me if these parts will work well together?
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144
CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...lermaster%20331
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145233
Video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125269
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171028
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104073
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...128382&Tpk=ud3h
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
All good?
Tap_paT,
I agree with Omegaman7 as far as the hard drive goes. The Hitachi's are a bit on the noisy side. The Warranty on the WDs and the Seagates is better.
Power Supply. If you are going to go that inexpensive for a PSU, get the 500w one. It's a newer and better design. It's what I'm using at the moment. That particular 460 is and older design, and what they used to include with their cases that came with PSUs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031
Case. Form vs Function. This one is along the same style, but has better airflow than the one you chose! It comes with 2 120mm fans, instead of one, and the drive cooling is superior in every way! The sideways HDD drive bays expose a wider cross section to the airflow, and cool much better. I also have this case and love it!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106
What I did with mine, is move the Rear Fan to the front as an intake to cool the HDDs and replaced the rear with one of these to compliment the front blue lights.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220031
I also added a Scythe Kama Bay fan to the front which takes up my lower three 5.25" bays! Leave out the filter as it's a major chore to clean, and not worth the effort of having to remove the whole thing evey time it needs cleaning!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185020
It all has made for a cool and very quiet computer!
Best Regards,
Russ
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5. June 2009 @ 04:16 |
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5. June 2009 @ 04:25 |
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No prob russ. I LOVE the graphics programs, and Im happy that your happy as well. Probably one of my favorite things about computers. You don't have to be a Picasso to create a work of art :D
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5. June 2009 @ 04:31 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
No prob russ. I LOVE the graphics programs, and Im happy that your happy as well. Probably one of my favorite things about computers. You don't have to be a Picasso to create a work of art :D
Oman7,
Here's where I show my age! I got started with graphics back in 1985 on an Atari ST-1024, using a program called Degas that came bundled with the computer! LOL!!
Thanks again,
Russ
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5. June 2009 @ 07:54 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by Tap_paT:
Hey, I've been wanting to build my own PC for a while now, Can anyone tell me if these parts will work well together?
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144
CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...lermaster%20331
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145233
Video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125269
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171028
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104073
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...128382&Tpk=ud3h
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
All good?
Tap_paT,
I agree with Omegaman7 as far as the hard drive goes. The Hitachi's are a bit on the noisy side. The Warranty on the WDs and the Seagates is better.
Power Supply. If you are going to go that inexpensive for a PSU, get the 500w one. It's a newer and better design. It's what I'm using at the moment. That particular 460 is and older design, and what they used to include with their cases that came with PSUs.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031
Case. Form vs Function. This one is along the same style, but has better airflow than the one you chose! It comes with 2 120mm fans, instead of one, and the drive cooling is superior in every way! The sideways HDD drive bays expose a wider cross section to the airflow, and cool much better. I also have this case and love it!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106
What I did with mine, is move the Rear Fan to the front as an intake to cool the HDDs and replaced the rear with one of these to compliment the front blue lights.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220031
I also added a Scythe Kama Bay fan to the front which takes up my lower three 5.25" bays! Leave out the filter as it's a major chore to clean, and not worth the effort of having to remove the whole thing evey time it needs cleaning!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185020
It all has made for a cool and very quiet computer!
Best Regards,
Russ
Ok, Take 2!
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144
CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119106
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284
Video: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125236
Power Supply: http://www.warcom.com.au/shop/flypage/co...-supplies/12687
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104073
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131319
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103471
Am I doon it rite?
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5. June 2009 @ 10:02 |
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Agreed on the HDD, Seagates aren't very nice. The GPU is fine enough, but expensive for what it is.
This: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103077
or ideally,this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161259
would serve you much better for the price.
The PSU is also pretty poor, and I wouldn't rely on it for a powerful gaming PC.
This is a much better unit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008
The RAM is fine at least, the board is a bit on the cheap side though, and there are better value AMD CPUs out there too.
Essentially, seeing that you can't use newegg, here's my advice:
If these are available:
AMD Phenom II X4 905e
Biostar TA790GX A3+
2x2GB PC6400 RAM from either Corsair, G-Skill, Kingston or Mushkin
If the CPU or a similar board to that isn't available then:
Core 2 Quad Q8300/Q8400
Gigabyte EP45 board (any will do)
2x2GB PC6400 RAM as before
For the PSU, avoid Coolermaster, Thermaltake and other cheap brands and get a Corsair, Antec, Nexus, Seasonic or OCZ. Ideally Corsair or Seasonic.
For the HDD, I'd recommend a WD, such as a WD10EADS or WD1001FALS.
The case is also a bit cheap, a Coolermaster Centurion/Cavalier, Antec Three Hundred, NZXT Alpha or similar would perform better.
The DVD drive you chose is fine, but I prefer S-ATA drives these days due to the simplicity and smaller cable size.
Just seen your new post. You've got an Intel board for an AMD CPU, that won't work. The PSU is a great choice, but the graphics card is unnecessary, you don't really need 1GB on an HD4850, you would be better off saving money and buying a 512MB version.
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5. June 2009 @ 10:18 |
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5. June 2009 @ 10:39 |
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OMG I'm excited about the new dual core Phenom IIs. I wanna see how they perform and OC :) Are they AM3 only chips though? If so wtf. They promised more AM2 Phenom IIs.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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5. June 2009 @ 11:11 |
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See my edit above, the motherboard is wrong.
Jeff: All the new CPUs are AM3. IIRC that means they work in AM2+ boards.
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