The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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6. June 2009 @ 10:16 |
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from the reviews im reading, the x2 550BE can do AM3 and AM2+
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6. June 2009 @ 10:23 |
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Ok, re: 3rd attempt
We almost got there, but no, that's an AM3 board with an AM2+ CPU and DDR2 memory.
You could use either of those boards if you changed the RAM to DDR3 and the CPU to an AM3 one, but as it is, you would need to use an AM2+ board with the other components.
By the way thanks for the youtube link, I saw a few of these once on someone else's PC and I'd been looking for them for ages!
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6. June 2009 @ 10:33 |
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youtube?
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6. June 2009 @ 10:37 |
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Nuts, was it not this thread? I thought it was.
Yes, yes it was. Omegaman's post. Probably won't mean much to you if you're not familiar with TNG.
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6. June 2009 @ 11:08 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis: Yes the dual core Phenom IIs are turning out fantastic. You should not depend on unlocking them, but stock they are very good CPUs for the price. All AMDs, Athlons/Phenoms/Phenom IIs have always performed quite decently in games compared to Intel so it's no surprise to see the X2 550 doing well. If my 7750 BE can push a 9800GTX+ this well in games, I see no reason why the 550 can't do the same job but faster with lower power use. I'm certainly interested in one for my 780G board. Thus my wondering if they are AM2+ compatible.
Estuansis,
100% Yes! See here!
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/dis...2_13.html#sect0
Nice overclock too!
Russ
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6. June 2009 @ 11:30 |
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Mmm, the lower overclock ability of the 550 renders them about even though, the power consumption of the two is roughly the same stock, the 550 uses about 3-5W more.
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6. June 2009 @ 12:43 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
By the way thanks for the youtube link, I saw a few of these once on someone else's PC and I'd been looking for them for ages!
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6. June 2009 @ 13:44 |
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6. June 2009 @ 14:21 |
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Done out of Here!
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6. June 2009 @ 15:25 |
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You do realise the 9800GT is miles behind the HD4870? There's a reason it's half the price.
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6. June 2009 @ 15:25 |
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bigwill68, have you any success using lightscribe?, if yes, can you pm me with the details, I have never used it before and know nothing about it even though I have had a LS writer all along, I do have injet printable disc's but also heard using LS is not at all easy or succefull.
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6. June 2009 @ 15:45 |
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Meh. Lightscribe is overpriced, wears down a burner, and just doesnt look THAT good. I prefer printable TYG02's, and prefer Watershields even more so. I tried it for a buddy a while back, and he was OK with it, but I thought the black & white look just wasn't that good. Certainly when regular printables, are better, cheaper, and the ink doesn't cost me much either. But then, I have continuous setup ran to my printer/s
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6. June 2009 @ 15:56 |
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Thanks for the comeback omeg, I know this is off topic why I asked about a pm but anyway, I understand your view, I was just intersted in doing a couple of disc's, because I never did it before I read some and you hear all sorts of different opinions etc. many found it complicated or not working at all, I also just found out you need special lightscribe disc's that I also didn't know, I bought a small pack of injet printables thinking thats what what needed, nope, thats what happenens when you don't read or ask first.
Either way like I said I just wanted to do a couple and don't need to start buying extra equipment to print the inkjet printables, if I can do about 4 or 5 lightscribes thats all I need. Sorry about being off topic.
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6. June 2009 @ 16:23 |
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Fred-Building a computer that uses lightscribe technically would be within the rules tho...I dont use it because i agree with O-man but that wont stop me from helping let you learn for yourself. Do you use a newer version of Nero for your disc burning? I ask because they have a better interface for making lightscribe graphics than most programs that come with a burner. Depending on your model, go online to the drivers and support page of whatever burner you have and there should be a downloadable program to build a disc if you dont have nero.
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6. June 2009 @ 17:24 |
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I would also say its hardly off topic :)
Im sorry, I didn't mean to seem completely opposed to Lightscribe. I guess I just had a bad experience with it. I would help you if I could, but im afraid the way I had it setup, was not the typical, eh hem, Legal way LOL! And the software was somewhat buggy. Much like you, I only did like 7 discs, then the program was out the window. I wanted to know if the software, and technology was worth it before I spent the big bucks LOL! Good thing I didn't buy all that stuff.
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6. June 2009 @ 22:22 |
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I might have an old copy of nero laying around somewhere not sure,I will check, even if I find it I've never used it before, my writer is an HD DVD Writer 840b and yes it is lightscribe, other than that thats all I know. I know I can write to HP sometime you get an answer sometime you don't, and many times thier answers are kind goofy anyway, they send you comments that confuse you more than what you started with.
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7. June 2009 @ 10:19 |
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7. June 2009 @ 12:00 |
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Deadrum33, thanks, I saved the site, did some reading, as soon as I figure out the software thing I will give it a shot.
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9. June 2009 @ 17:47 |
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For a little while now my computer has had trouble turning on. A lot of times it just powers up and does nothing, no post or anything. At first I thought it might be because of a ram problem but it works with all of my sticks. Although the best method to get it to start again appears to be taking out or putting in ram. It also BSOD's and hard freezes a lot which has never really occurred before.
I don't know if this is at all related but this problem first occurred the first time I went to use the computer after having a house fan installed and it got put on the same circuit that my desktop is on by accident. I know it makes absolutely no sense as to how that could affect it but it's the only thing that changed. Immediately after that it went from completely stable to crashing nearly every hour.
If anyone has any idea as to what might be wrong or how I can make it stable again I'll take any advice I can get.
EDIT: Okay I've tested each stick of ram in individually now and it's only confused me more. First pass each stick was tested in slot 1 and all booted fine. After putting in all sticks no post, after removing the two 1GB sticks still no post. With one 2GB stick remaining in slot 2 no post and no post after putting it in slot 1. Swapping for the other 2GB stick and the computer will boot again. Putting the previous stick back in and it works in both slots where it previously failed.
In the end if I found that if I put the 1GB sticks in first, one at a time then the 2GB sticks (one at a time again) it would boot and so far has crashed or froze yet. As far as I know it shouldn't matter in what order you put RAM in or if you boot up in between or not. Can someone explain this to me (assuming the above is coherent)?
Thanks in advance.
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9. June 2009 @ 19:00 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw: For a little while now my computer has had trouble turning on. A lot of times it just powers up and does nothing, no post or anything. At first I thought it might be because of a ram problem but it works with all of my sticks. Although the best method to get it to start again appears to be taking out or putting in ram. It also BSOD's and hard freezes a lot which has never really occurred before.
I don't know if this is at all related but this problem first occurred the first time I went to use the computer after having a house fan installed and it got put on the same circuit that my desktop is on by accident. I know it makes absolutely no sense as to how that could affect it but it's the only thing that changed. Immediately after that it went from completely stable to crashing nearly every hour.
If anyone has any idea as to what might be wrong or how I can make it stable again I'll take any advice I can get.
Red_Maw,
I would check your memory voltage with Everest or your PC health in the bios setup. If the voltage is set correctly, then I would suspect one of your ram sticks is drawing a bit more watts than it should. This would indicate High Resistance connection problrms, which generate a lot of heat! IMO, you should always use the manual settings for your memory voltage unless like mine, you have it under EPP control. If you have EPP memory, and you have a setting in the bios for it, turn it on and turn the DDR2 voltage to auto. On mine, I can't get the results setting it manually that the EPP control gives in controlling the memory, so it's the EPP setting for me! LOL!!
Best Regards,
Russ
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9. June 2009 @ 19:39 |
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Thanks Russ. My RAM is SPD controlled, don't know if that's the same as EPP since I can't find any documentation on my MB (commando) that mentions EPP. Everest reported a voltage of 2.1v right before it BSOD. Bios reports voltage 1.904v though. Going to set the voltage to 2.1v which should be the stock voltage for Dominator series ram.
Edit: It seems the 1GB sticks get 2.2v while the 2GB sticks only get 2.1v. This could be because of the slots their in although since it's booting I don't feel like moving them right now.
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9. June 2009 @ 22:07 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw: Thanks Russ. My RAM is SPD controlled, don't know if that's the same as EPP since I can't find any documentation on my MB (commando) that mentions EPP. Everest reported a voltage of 2.1v right before it BSOD. Bios reports voltage 1.904v though. Going to set the voltage to 2.1v which should be the stock voltage for Dominator series ram.
Edit: It seems the 1GB sticks get 2.2v while the 2GB sticks only get 2.1v. This could be because of the slots their in although since it's booting I don't feel like moving them right now.
Red_Maw,
I should have looked in the manual, as I would have seen that your MB specifies non EPP memory (Page xi). Your memory should be, 1 pair in slots 1 and two, Starting with the ones closest to the CPU, and the other pair in slots 3 and 4. They call them slots A & B and A1 and B1, but you get the idea.
Russ
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10. June 2009 @ 00:10 |
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Thanks for the advice Russ. I think I've got them put in right and after manually setting the voltage to 2.1v it's been alright. We'll see tomorrow morning if it continues to work lol.
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10. June 2009 @ 00:35 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw: Thanks for the advice Russ. I think I've got them put in right and after manually setting the voltage to 2.1v it's been alright. We'll see tomorrow morning if it continues to work lol.
Red_Maw,
You're most welcome!
Russ
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10. June 2009 @ 03:24 |
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Im becoming quite discontent with the AAKS 500GB Wd drive. My brothers might be on the fritz, and mine is substantially slower than the FALS 1TB drive. Perhaps it was WD's lemon ehh. I just bought the AALS 500GB today, to replace my brothers drive. I'll use his for storage, assuming its any good. Thankfully, it still has 4 yrs on its warranty :D I installed Nero 9, side by side on a dual core, and my quad system, and the dual core kept up. I believe it to be because the Fals drive is the Dual Cores Operating system. Currently, the dual core is impressing me once again...*shrugs his shoulders*
I might even attempt a raid 0 array for the first time(assuming his drive isn't too bad). If I have his drive, and mine, it should be at least a little quicker than the FALS, heck... probably even the VelociRaptor! At least for read write speeds. Wish I had two AALS drives. They have twice the cache that the AAKS have. Ah well. SSD will be my path before too long :D
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