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19. July 2009 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:


but sam we are looking at getting bigger better GPU's
im looking at this what ya think? i an get it at microcenter on sale i think it still is for $99.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130468

one of these here will be my choice hav'en made my mind up yet...
but i do like the his cause of the copper cooling pipes that can be modifyed later if...I want to
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...archResult=True
thanks for letting me known on the temp issue Robo...i'll change that up the nexts time around atlease we known we don't have to mess with the volts until we go passed 3.5Ghz's it holds it's own at auto and don't use that much to get to 3.5 now my friend what chip should we get get nexts when goe's on sale?...lol I wished that E8600 would drop it's been high for the longest time that joker still at $269 at the egg and micro center never bought none in there stores to sell...

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The GTS250 is quite powerful, but pricey for what it is. HD4850s can be had for $100, HD4870s for $130 ($120 after rebate in some cases) - for the money I'd definitely take the HD4870, if you wanted to save a bit you could get the 4850.
The E8600 is still the same price because nothing has bettered it. Until it has competition, there's no reason for its price to be lowered. If I had to upgrade I think I'd set my sights on getting a QX9650 off ebay. They're only C1, but with an 11x multiplier you can have it at 4.4Ghz with bone stock settings on your motherboard!



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I love the shiny board and RAM and the reasonable cooler with the 1980s looking graphics card :P - with one PCIe slot filled and a P45 chipset you should see a pretty good FSB out of that chip. Right now I'm happy to stick with 3.65 - 3.8 requires a hefty NB voltage that I can't sustain for long.

all I forgot to say thanks for comment on my shiny board and my G.Skill and my reliable(dependable) lapped cooler the same cooler
my E8400 hit 4.5Ghz on at 51c stressed and 27c idle until the my 212 hyper took over mmm thanks greensman where you maybe my friend and the graphic card is a 2008 model Rev 1.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130313
tested to comply with fcc standards...lol made in china like walmart
don't laugh it was a starter card and a spare part now like so many other spare parts i got around my house for computers that nobody has saw...

have fun
building:)

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I've yet to see an unreliable cooler (apart from perhaps liquid nitrogen...haha) but I know what you meant. I'm well aware the card is modern, it wouldn't fit a PCI express slot otherwise, but still, it is chalk and cheese compared to the rest of the build :)



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Well folks, it seems that Gigabyte is going to replace my 790GP-UD4H with a 790X-UD4P, just like I requested. I lose the On Board Graphics, but gain a couple of Sata ports and a few other goodies. I'll have to wait on them getting their next shipment, but it's still working aside from the video problems that happen with the PCI-e card and the On board. I can live with that for the next week or two! I'm happy!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128387

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I don't really see why you need the onboard graphics anyway Russ.
Now coming to you from a rather bare Windows 7 installation - time to get installing all my programs! :S
quite a nice looking OS so far, but it's disappointing that they haven't removed the absurdly long timed wait sections in the installer.



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lol i didnt have that... i had a 10 min install, shame the beta's desktop crashed every 10mins and PB didnt work



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Well folks, it seems that Gigabyte is going to replace my 790GP-UD4H with a 790X-UD4P, just like I requested
Gigabyte has got to have earned a metal for customer service because as long as I've known you you've been sending one board back or another. Back in your D945 days (or was that 940?)I think you went through every revision of the 965 series board. If I was Gigabyte I would be sending you coupons for Asus products.:P LOL

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Lol you'd need to, that's the only way you'd be able to afford replacing them every six months when they break... :P



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LOL then again sam has 3 asus baoords fail on him. (The p5n-e dont count)



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Unlucky. I too have had lightning fast installs. Win7 RC1 is still working a treat here, it can be preordered for £50 at the moment, but 'fraid that's £50 too much currently. Cracking OS though.



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3 isn't important. All is what's important.


I find it funny how technology progresses. Unlike the vista drivers, ATI's windows 7 graphics drivers don't even require a reboot, yet windows live messenger does. The graphics drivers even installed quicker. Not sure I prefer the display being blank throughout the entire install process (vista version changed desktop to 800x600 during the procedure, but didn't correct it afterwards), but that's how it is. programs seem to take slightly longer to install than is normal on win7 so far, but I've encountered no stability issues.



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lol creaky, £50 too much, argos, can be had for £39.99.

then again, the one time i rmad my board was when i took a screw driver to it lol. my p5k-e has been alive over a year, Overclocked an E2140, 100%



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a year, wow! Even my A8R-MVP lasted longer than that.
Was rather hoping that win7 would use less RAM than vista, unfortunately not the case, which is a bit sad, still 1.75GB usage at the desktop.



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i instelled vista drivers, stayed 1920x1200 and kept the second screen at 1920x1080, no reboot needed



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£40 at Argos eh ?, good to know, cheers. As to MSN Messenger, hardly use it anymore, i prefer Pidgin, even though it has no webcam support.
My Win7 machine has 4GB RAM anyways, i only use x86 so don't get access to the full 4GB but doesn't bother me due to my uses.



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never been the case for me, two separate vista installs, always requires a reboot, always resets display to 800x600 - perhaps that's a service pack 2 feature. After yet another catastrophic network failure in the OS I was done with vista tbh.



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well i have only had it for a year



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Windows 7 is officially brilliant :)

I've got it running smoothly on an old laptop of mine:

Pentium 4 @ 2.60GHz
512MB RAM
nVidia Go 5100

The 5100 says it has 94MB of RAM :D



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I generally average 18% usage of my 8Gbs (Roughly 1.5Gbs). And thats while fraps, avg, and firefox are running. Windows 7 is wonderful. However, I still rate it about as good as Xp. Most of my Xp experience has been pretty good. But I never tried to run Xp X64 edition...



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XP 64-bit was dire, worse than vista.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
XP 64-bit was dire, worse than vista.

Thats what I've heard. Exactly why I didn't give it the time of day. I have a disc somewhere around here LOL!



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Can't knock that Windows 7 ships with 32 bit and 64 bit in the same box :)

Seems like this is the transition O/S... Who bets that the next Windows is 64 bit only?



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I didn't think it did for the RC, but maybe the disc version is different.



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Kind of a downer, discovered there's no working sound support for windows 7 yet. Any sound has to stop for an application to open, normally this is only a slight pause, but it means you can't play music or have sound in games. A very disappointing bug I would have thought would have been fixed by release candidate stage, seemingly not.

edit: It looks like a bug with the included chipset driver. Using the vista one from the intel website seems to have cured the problem.


One bug I can't work out how to fix though is there is no support for Alt-Tab in 3D applications. If you alt tab out of a game, there is no means to get back in, as the taskbar bugs and does not send the request to the game, so it still runs, but you can never see it - and have to Ctrl+Alt+Del and start again.



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