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23. July 2009 @ 22:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LOL I have a BIOS password too. One guy tried to access my BIOS on the Intel quad machine and got pissed. "I'm gonna overclock your CPU for you." I'm like "No you're not. I'll break your finger before it reaches the enter button." Kid's a know-it-all and doesn't give anyone credit for their own knowledge. I doubt he really knows anything about computers outside of changing the FSB. I mean I had to install his PSU for him... Meh I don't hang out with him much.



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Originally posted by cincyrob:
GA-EP45-UD3P

what ya guys know about it? good, bad? any info. 8 phase or 4 phase?
Bios? is it any different than say my EP45-DS3R?

and i still havent seen any info??? is there any to be had?lol didnt mean to start the mobo war again....
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
GA-EP45-UD3P

what ya guys know about it? good, bad? any info. 8 phase or 4 phase?
Bios? is it any different than say my EP45-DS3R?

and i still havent seen any info??? is there any to be had?lol didnt mean to start the mobo war again....

Rob,
The problem is there isn't a definitive answer because each MB manufacturer uses the technology in their own way to their best advantage.

After doing a little research, your's is probably more advanced, as it can be used when overclocking, but only with 45nm CPUs to use the Gear 1. I've also read some very good things about it. I just wish they would all get together and come up with a name everyone could use. This one is a 6 Gear, which simply means 6 Phase! I was just reading about some tests of it the other night, and the 6 Gear put the hurt on Asus and MSI pretty good when it came to power savings. Their Gear 1 state is simply amazing!

Dynamic Energy Saver Advanced
GIGABYTE Dynamic Energy Saver Advanced provides better energy saving capabilities and enhanced system performance. GIGABYTE Dynamic Energy Saver Advanced is the world?s only motherboard energy saving technology with hardware-based Dynamic 6-Gear* Switching. With support for VRD 11.1, GIGABYTE?s DES Advanced allows the motherboard to switch to 1 Gear phase switching during idle, allowing for a dramatic increase in power savings.

GIGABYTE has also retooled Dynamic Energy Saver to allow overclockers to experience the benefits of multi-gear power phase switching while overclocking, providing ultra stable, ultra smooth overclocking performance.
* The 6-Gear feature may vary by model. Gear 1 phase switching requires 45nm processors with PSI signal enabled.

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i7 systems are getting pretty common as prebuilds now, I know a fair few people looking at buying not so much 'off the shelf' systems, but 'spec it out and we build it' sort of systems, most with i7s. I doubt they intend to overclock much.
Shaff: Exactly, £235 for how many months of use? I reckon my electricity bill is less than that.
Russ: I have never had that problem with a gigabyte board - Ctrl+F1 does not stop saving BIOS settings, it reveals options which are not normally displayed in the BIOS.

Rob: Is not the Ep45-UD3P the same as the UD3R but with an extra PCIe slot?



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Originally posted by sammorris:
i7 systems are getting pretty common as prebuilds now, I know a fair few people looking at buying not so much 'off the shelf' systems, but 'spec it out and we build it' sort of systems, most with i7s. I doubt they intend to overclock much.
Shaff: Exactly, £235 for how many months of use? I reckon my electricity bill is less than that.
Russ: I have never had that problem with a gigabyte board - Ctrl+F1 does not stop saving BIOS settings, it reveals options which are not normally displayed in the BIOS.

Rob: Is not the Ep45-UD3P the same as the UD3R but with an extra PCIe slot?

Sam,
Yours was a "C" model! The 965P-DS3R and the P35-DS3R would not save unless you hit Crtl+F1 at the main screen. The 965P drove me crazy because it wouldn't save. I didn't know about the Ctrl+F1 then because it was my first Gigabyte motherboard. I googled what I thought was a problem and read that I should press Ctrl+F1 and it saved fine after that. Perhaps it was my revision (1.33), as it was not a very common revision in North America! You couldn't even find it on GigaByte USA's website, you had to go to Gigabyte/tw. It was similar, but not the same as revision 3.33, that was sold in the states. Now that I think of it, I shouldn't have said that the P35-DS3R was the same way, because I've always done Ctrl+F1 ever since, so I can't say for sure that the 965P would't save! In fact I had to download the manual because the one that came with it was in an Oriental language! Great motherboard! Easiest build of my life!

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Russ, this goes for all models. The only difference with the C model was the extra DDR3. I know a couple of people who had the standard P35-DS3R and never heard about them having problems saving, and as I said, not only did I have a P35C-DS3R but I still do have an X38-DS4, X48-DS4 and EP31-DS3L and none of them exhibit that problem. I also know that my friends who had a 965P-DS3 didn't have to Ctrl+F1 to save either.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Rob: Is not the Ep45-UD3P the same as the UD3R but with an extra PCIe slot?
i think your right about that. i havent looked at it. havent had much time as of late to do much of anything. i havent even been able to play with OCing the Q9550 any more than i have. gonna put hte mushkin mem back in and try it around 475fsb 475x8.5=4.03ghz ;)~

Russ:
heck myself im not to worried about the energy saving stuff added to it. like you said if anyone plans on OCing you loose that option anyways.
i dont think my board has more options than the UD3P/R from what ive been told there is alot more tweaking options in the bios. i dont know honestly as i havent seen one yet. i got some spare time right now im gonna do some research on them.

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I actually thought the UD3R was better than the DS3R in that regard.



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me also sam..
heres what im looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...archResult=True

UD3R is out for sure.it does only have 1 pcie port and only 1 lan
UD3P looks nice.
UD4R i think is the winner of the gigabyte boards for sure.
as for the ASUS. if i can get the premium for the same price as the deluxe thats the way i will go.

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I know someone who had a P5Q Deluxe I think it was and didn't like it very much compared to his Gigabyte P35. The DS4P is a nice board but it has the problematic mini silentpipe cooler, so I'd avoid it. Stick with the UD3 boards.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I know someone who had a P5Q Deluxe I think it was and didn't like it very much compared to his Gigabyte P35. The DS4P is a nice board but it has the problematic mini silentpipe cooler, so I'd avoid it. Stick with the UD3 boards.
Soph has the P5Q Deluxe along with the Q9550. he loves it. dont think i have heard him say anything bad about it? no problems so to say???

EDIT:
the Premium board is alot more board than i would ever use, but it is the same price as the deluxe. i doubt it will stay that way for 3 more weeks when im able to get one...lol

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Originally posted by sammorris:
Russ, this goes for all models. The only difference with the C model was the extra DDR3. I know a couple of people who had the standard P35-DS3R and never heard about them having problems saving, and as I said, not only did I have a P35C-DS3R but I still do have an X38-DS4, X48-DS4 and EP31-DS3L and none of them exhibit that problem. I also know that my friends who had a 965P-DS3 didn't have to Ctrl+F1 to save either.

Here's the thing, why would anyone enter the setup without doing Ctrl+F1? It's an automatic thing to do for most people. I never had owned a GigaByte MB before, so I didn't know. As I recall, there was no mention in the manual at all. Basic changes will save, it's just that you couldn't change voltages and things like that and have it save. It goes through the motions. but it reverts back to the settings that were set before you made the changes. That's where it drove me crazy. In fact I think Rob had a problem like that too with his MB where he wasn't able to save for the same reason. Like I said, the revision I had was an oddball. I never met or heard of anyone else having a Rev. 1.33, and you can't find it at gigabyteusa. It's not listed there. No real matter anyway!

BTW I went back to 2200MHz on the HT link frequency and 2200MHz on the CPU NB frequency, since it doesn't seem to be the cause of the video anomaly. It doesn't do it all the time, and even then only if it occurs during the post. It also doesn't make the video unstable, just annoying. It doesn't crash playing FC2 either. If it doesn't do it at the post screen, it doesn't do it at all! That's all right, I'll have the 790X-UD4P soon enough! LOL!!

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Russ: I've never used Ctrl+F1, I did it once to see what it did, then that was enough. I've never known anyone else use it, because they haven't had to use it.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Russ: I've never used Ctrl+F1, I did it once to see what it did, then that was enough. I've never known anyone else use it, because they haven't had to use it.

Like I said, I do it all the time. I can't see all the options otherwise, or even overclock! The overclocking applies to my 790GP-UD4H as well. You have to use Ctrl/F1 to overclock!

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Sure you're doing it right? lol



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sam IICR the older GB boards had to have Ctrl F1 to go intot he OC settings, cant remember if doing it once unlocked it, or you had to do it every time.



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Perhaps from the 965P era, but certainly nothing more modern.



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It seems like I had to to something like that for EPP settings on the last board (ga-ma790gp-ds4h). Otherwise they were not seen.



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Like I said, it does hide some settings, but usually they aren't of much consequence compared to others.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Perhaps from the 965P era, but certainly nothing more modern.

Well I'll be dipped in camel Dung! ROFLMSOAO! I just tried it and you are right! I can save changes. Swear to God, I've never tried it! The 965P wouldn't and since then, I've always used Ctrl/F1 except when I wanted to go to PC Health to check the reported voltages and fan speeds.

From now on every build get's a Password protected SetUp, including mine!

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Lol, I thought so - :)



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I've only had to use Ctrl+F1 with my GA-965P-DS3. All of my newer Gigabyte boards have never needed it. Though most of mine have been Intel so maybe it's more an AMD thing? Then again my GA-MA78G-DS3HP board doesn't need it either. Strange...



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As I say, P35C-DS3R, X38-DS4, X48-DS4, X48-DS5, EP31-DS3L, none need Ctrl+F1 to save.
Oh and not the MA740-S2H or something like that either.



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As I say, P35C-DS3R, X38-DS4, X48-DS4, X48-DS5, EP31-DS3L, none need Ctrl+F1 to save.

Likewise with EX38-DS4, MA770-UD3, and MA78G-DS3H

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@CincyRob

Robo here's your 5 choice's of good motherboards to set that Q9550 on
5 Good Boards

and getting pretty good results just remember you can't use the 0.25v in the bios on the gig board only the rest and vdroop in also attached to ud3p...I never knew is vdroop a good thing or bad? is that due to dynamic energy saver setup that they have on there boards? rest assure what ever board you pick you will have a good oc
but there's nothing wrong with stepping away from Gigabyte testing others on the market they all do the same thing in commen(Get on the internet)best of luck on your choice and thanks for the extra parts...

i got the Old Abit fatal1ty aa8xe fired up but would'en stay running


led coded at FF and shut down reading 99 and there was a constant beeping from the internal speaker onboard...i'm gonna order some G.Skill 533 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231018 cause i did stick my Kingston Hyper double sided
on to see if it would just fire up like a old car in a junk yard and got a hot battery and a can of gas but..I did slap the P4 ht 530 on the p35c-ds3r and got it to 3.8 stable as might have seen on the oc thread...if anybody got some good info on the Abit Fatal1ty let me know and why it's sounding off like that:)

abit board pics
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4335/abit1.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3792/abit2.jpg

the FF code
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7275/abit3.jpg

I gotta say I like the Red Lights surrounding the board...

but there's a blue light near and it's Cool:)
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5405/coolbluecmps.jpg




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Ya'll:)

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