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31. July 2009 @ 10:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not really important tbh, as chipset instability doesn't play as much of a role with AMD black edition CPUs, it's mainly just the CPUs themselvesd being a limitation.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Not really important tbh, as chipset instability doesn't play as much of a role with AMD black edition CPUs, it's mainly just the CPUs themselvesd being a limitation.

sam,
Very true, but they are improving. The newest chips are beginning to tolerate more FSB than mine will! Nowhere's near what the Intel's can do, but an improvement, none the less!

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I don't really see the point of changing the FSB on an AMD though, as you can take the multiplier pretty much to beyond the CPU's reach...



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Fine tuning i'd imagine



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Fine tuning i'd imagine

Oman7,
That's what a Doctor I know did. he got his Phenom II x3 to 3.995GHz by setting the FSB to 222 and the multiplier to 18. My x2 7750 won't even post over 207MHz. He dropped the FSB to 220 and is running at 3.965GHz without issues. He thought that 222 might be too close to the edge, as he put it! The Phenom II x2 550 will go even higher than 222mHz. As you say, fine Tuning! LOL!!

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and here's me moaning about struggling to get to 450FSB... :O



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LOL sam, LOL. Thats all i have to say about that. Heh heh.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
and here's me moaning about struggling to get to 450FSB... :O

When I installed the replacement E6750 on the P35-DS3R, I had the FSB to 463MHz x8 for 3.7GHz before I backed it down. I was shooting for 475MHz x8 which would have put it right at 3.8GHz. LOL!! The original one I hurt by running the FSB at 500MHz for 4.0GHz. The original one always needed more voltage than the replacement, even for a mild OC! I sold it at 3.552GHz at 1.29v. Still running great! She loves it!

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31. July 2009 @ 17:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Quad core + 4GB RAM + both PCIe slots filled + double-bandwidth chipset = more difficult to raise FSB.



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sam its unfair to compare FSB to HTT. QPIform the I7s can be compared that they hit about 215-220 on air. depending on the mobo



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No, it was more a joke, I'm aware they aren't directly comparable.



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just playing around today bored and dusting out the case and cleaning the fans and heatsink on my backup machine here...i decided to drop a spare fan in the bottom of the case..i had laying around in the drawer and swopped out burns also yea..i was bored now...i got a home made CM690..lol




gonna try to have CM590 back together by my B-Day this month with Quad running...still in debate on which type of board & cpu put in the antec 300 if not gonna try and sell it for parts money:)


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WOW! You could light a 3rd world country with that tower LOL! Just funnin. I'd probably be into tricking my machine out, but my current situation is discouraging :(



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http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=19653

nzxt can make very nice inside but OMG that is one of the ugliest cases i have seen!



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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=19653

nzxt can make very nice inside but OMG that is one of the ugliest cases i have seen!

I think you mean F-ugliest LOL!



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i dont think Fugly cuts it :) I have seen bread makers that look better. anyone tried building a pc out of toaster or microwave cases?

i would pay to see it...

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Originally posted by MUNKYEARS:
i dont think Fugly cuts it :) I have seen bread makers that look better. anyone tried building a pc out of toaster or microwave cases?

i would pay to see it...

MUNKYEARS,
If you put a fan in each fan hole on that thing you would have to chain it to the desk. Otherwise, it might take off! LOL!!

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lol Why spend millions on jets when you can create decent 1 man planes for less than a car?

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will a phenom II X4 920 work with my asus m2r32 mobo? They are both AM2+. Not sure what else I need to consider. Thanks.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131095
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103472

also, what are decent brands for mobos? Asus, ECS, Gigabyte, Biostar, etc... Thanks

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The M2R32 has an am2 socket. Not to be confused with am2+ According to their site, it may indeed support SOME am2+ cpu's.
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusu...2-MVP&product=1

Help me out guys LOL!



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
The M2R32 has an am2 socket. Not to be confused with am2+ According to their site, it may indeed support SOME am2+ cpu's.
http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusu...2-MVP&product=1

Help me out guys LOL!

Oman7,
Where are you finding out this information. As far as I know this MB will only support the older Athlon, Athlon x2, and Phenom. The newest CPU you can put in it is the 7*** series, and they will work but you can't overclock them if they have B3 stepping! The information on that MB is confusing to say the least. Newegg lists it as a socket AM2+/AM2, which is incorrect. It's strictly AM2, so it's no good for any of the newer x2, x3, and x4s. The only reason the 7*** series works is they are Phenom based! The Callisto's won't work at all, so anything that is Phenom II based is out!

It's distressing to find out just how hard Asus makes it just to find out what's compatible with a given motherboard! Most other companies link this info right from the product page. I guess Asus is above all that! All I can say is it's a good thing most of their products work better than their site does! LOL!!

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Russ


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Their site refers to the 7--- series processors as am2+ processors. Is this incorrect?

Dru3692. That board will not support PhenomII processors. The board is outdated.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Their site refers to the 7--- series processors as am2+ processors. Is this incorrect?

Technically they aren't, being based on two cores of a Phenom. I know it took a bios flash for all the AM2+ features to work with it on mine. I guess that means it's up to Asus and whether they deem it necessary or not. Given that the board in question has been discontinued and was inexpensive to begin with, I somehow doubt that there will be any new bios support for it in the future! They want to sell more new boards not give old boards new life! My new MB will be here Tue or Wed! It's AM2/AM2+ and AM3 compatible. As long as it has the DDR2 memory controller, you can use any AMD CPU on it that works with AM2/AM2+ or AM3!

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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Given that the board in question has been discontinued and was inexpensive to begin with, I somehow doubt that there will be any new bios support for it in the future! They want to sell more new boards not give old boards new life!

Russ

Agreed. That's business. Some people seem to take it personal. But it is simply business. If anyone of us had a business, we would work the same way. It is however unfortunate LOL!



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would an ECS mobo be a worthwhile purchase? It comes as a combo deal, otherwise I would go Asus or Gigabyte.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealD...st=Combo.230062

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