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19. December 2007 @ 23:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just curious, why did you install your hard disk drives PCB-face up?



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19. December 2007 @ 23:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Haha, I was really ticked off about that part :(

I had to because the holes in the hard drives where the screws go didnt line up with the holes in the HDD cage, unless the drives were flipped upside down. Was that the case with your 900 sam?

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Lol perhaps the drive cages were in upside down, you can turn those the other way up!



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yo, so Thermalright Ultra 120 and a good 120mm fan, will kick the Zalman CNS9700 CPU fans a$$? just double checking

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Without question. Even with the fan only at 700rpm (and all my case fans at same) I get better temps than you ever will with a 9700.



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20. December 2007 @ 01:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yo anyone here OC an E21xx series before? what is your multiplier and volts etc oh on a P35 mobo...thnx

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With the 2100 series it's probably best to leave the multi at max because of the low starting FSB. At 1.4V you could probably get one to 3Ghz.



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20. December 2007 @ 02:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oops posted in the wrong thread, but thnx anyway

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20. December 2007 @ 05:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Waymon,

why did you choose to go with patriot memory? just curious. I would most definately choose corsair, crucial, ocz or g-skill over patriot. even kingston (and I'm not too fond of kingston).

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Originally posted by sammorris:
With the 2100 series it's probably best to leave the multi at max because of the low starting FSB. At 1.4V you could probably get one to 3Ghz.
but if you lower the multis, and then increase the FBS, to the same clock, then wouldnt it be better for the chip to get more bandwitdh?
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but if you lower the multis, and then increase the FBS, to the same clock, then wouldnt it be better for the chip to get more bandwitdh?

Not really! The limiting factor will be the lower starting FSB. Depending on which chip is being used I would say a safe bet would be 3.0 to 3.2GHz max, Stable!

Waymon3X6,
What possessed you to go with Patriot for your memory. I agree with Mort81, I would sooner buy Kingston, and I never thought very much of it! Crucial Ballistix Tracers would have been a much better choice!

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Lol perhaps the drive cages were in upside down, you can turn those the other way up!
Already tried that... The cages have to be a certain way up, or the screw holes on them wont line up with the holes on the frame...

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Waymon,

why did you choose to go with patriot memory? just curious. I would most definately choose corsair, crucial, ocz or g-skill over patriot. even kingston (and I'm not too fond of kingston).
The Patriot had good timings, a low latency, and they were cheap. I now see people saying that they arent that good... Before I saw people getting good reviews with it.

I know they run hot, but I wont be overclocking them so I think I will be ok. Besides, they're in a Antec 900 :)

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20. December 2007 @ 09:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cooled well or not, they're still not the best RAM you can buy, and in my experience heat isn't always the limiting factor with memory.
As for the drive cages, are there less holes now? There are so many screw holes in my 900 you can pretty much do anything any way round!



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20. December 2007 @ 09:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, you're right. There are so many screw holes in the 900 that you can bolt pretty much anything you want to it.

When I turn the cages to the "right side" (where the HDD pcb isnt showing), the holes kinda line up, but are off by the slightest mm so the screw wont go in. I will try to take some pics of it when I get home.

EDIT: What were your experiences with Patriot memory?

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20. December 2007 @ 09:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Interesting. I don't really see a problem with them that way round, but having never seen HDDs upside down in a PC before, it instantly caused raised eyebrows!



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How did you mount your HDDs in your 900 sam?

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20. December 2007 @ 13:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
a) the normal way up, beause they fit!
b) with great difficulty at first, because i didn't initially have a magnetic screwdriver...



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20. December 2007 @ 14:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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b) with great difficulty at first, because i didn't initially have a magnetic screwdriver...
Same here, but I couldn't find one at all! Took me a good 5-10 minutes to get all of them done.

I am uploading my first video of the build onto youtube now, I will post a link later.

EDIT: Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq65_4OLHhQ

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with great difficulty at first, because i didn't initially have a magnetic screwdriver...

another reason I'm such a fanboy of cooler master cases. no screws needed for optical drives or hdd's. hdd's just snap in and optical drives just slide in and lock with lock mechanism.

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another reason I'm such a fanboy of cooler master cases. no screws needed for optical drives or hdd's. hdd's just snap in and optical drives just slide in and lock with lock mechanism.

Not to mention the locks for the video and other cards. I love my Cooler Master Cavalier case. Very Classy looking with a good fitting, easy to reverse door to keep the dust away from my Optical Drives! no rattles either, unlike some "Tool-less" cases I've seen in the past! You only need a screwdriver to mount the motherboard and PSU!

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20. December 2007 @ 19:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'll be honest with you guys, despite owning one, I still think there are far better cases than the 900, and those drive cages are pretty much the reason why. After removing the graphics card from my server I've got it nearly silent, so it's doable with that case, but nonetheless, I think the P182 is about the only Antec case really worth buying at the moment.



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sammorris,
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I think the P182 is about the only Antec case really worth buying at the moment.

I much prefer the room in the one I've got compared to the P182, especially since mine's close to 3" shorter! No reversible Door! The P182 is $30 more expensive, even when it's on sale! When it's not I can buy 2 Cavaliers for less than 1 P182! I'll pass!

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20. December 2007 @ 20:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, each to their own, but the P182 is made for some seriously quiet computing...



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sammorris,
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Hmm, each to their own, but the P182 is made for some seriously quiet computing...

At the expense of heat! The ventilation unless you have a 2 slot video card is terrible! They get quiet like that when there's no air inlet vents in the cover or back! LOL!! Way too much money for a case that offers little besides quiet!

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20. December 2007 @ 23:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm, I'm not quite convinced about that. My friend's P182-based server runs a Scythe Ninja heatsink on his CPU (a powerful, but entirely fanless heatsink, that relies on ambient airflow to effectively cool a CPU). He's removed all but one of the case fans for additional silence, and his CPU has idle temps of around 31C. No case that offers airflow in the 'poor' category could achieve those temps.
Nonetheless I concede that the P182 is one of the worst cooled cases in its price bracket.
I still personally think NZXT cases are under-rated for silent cooling. Like most other cases the stock fans aren't exactly great, but the cases are designed well enough that low airflow fans can still cool a system well.
Has anybody here tried the NZXT Zero?



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