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14. June 2008 @ 02:11 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Yeah, the Q9450 doesn't OC as much as the Q6600, but in regular(not extreme overclocks) the penryn architecture makes up for the difference.
they should OC to around 3.6ghz ok. the additional L2 unshared cache with the Q9450 is nice and one reason they cost so much. both the Q6600 and Q9450 stock will tear up my E3110 at 4.0ghz mipps wise and in proggys that can utilize all 4 cores. sometimes the truth hurts.
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14. June 2008 @ 02:17 |
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hummm L2 12MB Cache with the Q9450 , very tempting. should I ? lol
and man the Antec 1200 is a pretty case
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14. June 2008 @ 10:02 |
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14. June 2008 @ 10:48 |
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ZOSO.
Mort just answered the questions i was gonna tell you about the Quad in the PM i sent ya..lol
Q9450 is the way to go with your mobo if ya can swing it.
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14. June 2008 @ 12:39 |
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Let's be fair now - it's a lot easier to change a CPU than to change a case, I think Zoso's decision is quite wise - but honestly, the only reason why you'd go for a 1200 over the 900 is the styling difference, or more room to work with - or perhaps the design improvements, if Antec have learnt from their mistakes with the 900. Cooling just isn't an issue with the 900, and you'd hardly want extra airflow for quietness, the cases are basically all holes which is terrible for silencing.
rick: The Ultra case you posted is basically a modified clone of the old Chieftec Dragon case - cooling wise it's adequate but not exemplary, build quality should be OK - if you like the look of it there's no real reason not to buy it, it's sort of a middle of the road case.
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14. June 2008 @ 12:41 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
I think it's ironic that you wanted future proof and you didn't get a quad core
abuzar1, after thinking about it your absolutely right so i changed my mind and order to the Q9450. It should benefit me using DVD Rebuilder
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14. June 2008 @ 12:42 |
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If you use DVD RB, a Quad's a no brainer.
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14. June 2008 @ 12:47 |
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The only reason i would have not got the 900 and waited for the 1200 is for the ability to hold more internal hard drives. But saying that i have the 900 which for me that means 6 internal HDD's plus 7 external in USB/SATA enclosures (all are 500GB's). Never mind the internal & external ODD's - 3 of each.
And when money permits i will just replace any with 1TB drives (internally or externally), so for me, the 1200 (as nice as it is) is just not necessary; plus it's too tall for my desk; wouldn't want it on the floor anyhow.
I'm a salesman's/advertiser's nightmare as once i splash the cash for a big build i'm not one to constantly eye up new products, unlike some of you here :) :)
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14. June 2008 @ 12:58 |
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yeah creaky the Antec 1200 is tall 22.9" its barely going to fit. and actually I'm going to have to modify my slide out tray for my keyboard to make it work, moving it up about an inch
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14. June 2008 @ 13:44 |
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Whoo, I win!!!
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14. June 2008 @ 13:49 |
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my goodness that antec 1200 is tall. my stacker 830 is about 21" tall and I thought it was a monster.
ZoSo, did you find a TRUE and get one ordered? you dirty rascal :), you're tempting me to get a Q9450 sooner than I had anticipated. we can't let you rule the roost all by youself :)
sam, sorry I didn't follow up on your question sooner last night. DocTY called while I was in the process of answering and I didn't get it posted as soon as I had intended. you most likely had gone beddy by.
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14. June 2008 @ 13:49 |
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yup the kid was right lol ^^^^^^
the more i read about the Antec 1200 the more i like it. the 1200 has dust filters unlike the 900
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14. June 2008 @ 14:00 |
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ZoSo, did you find a TRUE and get one ordered? you dirty rascal :), you're tempting me to get a Q9450 sooner than I had anticipated. we can't let you rule the roost all by youself :)
yes i found one but I'm not convinced to order it yet looks like a pain in the ass to install? I'm thinking about using the Zalman 9500/9700 and the wind tunnel with the Anrec 1200 I'm getting. and the Q9450 is ordered
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14. June 2008 @ 14:05 |
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The TRUE is miles better than the top end Zalmans - it cools better, quieter and doesn't fill up with uncleanable dust. They're no more difficult to install than the Zalmans, it's just fitting the fan that can be a pain.
Mort: No worries, foruming shouldn't be a 24 hour occupation.... :)
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14. June 2008 @ 14:07 |
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The Zalman 9700 is an excellent cooler. Maybe not as efficient as the monster cooler some of you go for, but it keeps my Q6600 nice and cool
edit- i'll vouch for it being a pain to clean, luckily i always have a small long brush to hand
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14. June 2008 @ 14:12 |
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it's not any harder to install than a zalman 9500/9700. the 9700 would be ok but I wouldn't go with a 9500. if I was going to do it all over, I would seriously consider a TR IFX-14. here's an intersting review of the TRUE. according to the review, the TRUE signifcantly outperforms even the 9700. I like the zalman 9500/9700 but the TRUE made a believer out of me.
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14. June 2008 @ 14:15 |
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Heh, well exactly. Now it's getting a bit clogged with dust (which is hard to get rid of and even harder to stop) my CNPS7000, yes hardly a 9700, but still a Zalman runs my X2 4200+ at about 53C idle using 1200rpm fan speed. My TRU-A (not the extreme, let alone the IFX) manages 30 idle and 41 load on my 3.15Ghz E4300 with the fan at 800rpm...
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14. June 2008 @ 14:25 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
RedRob,
How does Will like that case?? I've been thinking about a case purchase... lol. LIKE I need one and that one is on my list for sure. :D I like the 810 Stacker too but it's $200+ AFAIK. Rob didn't Will have a "clear" case?? He decided to get rid of it or what?
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he just got it lastnight. he went on his lunch break and got it. we put the fans in it, and he was takeing it home to transfer everything else over into it. i think its a awsome case. its allmost identical to the RC-690. minus mesh top cover the 690 has. it doesnt have the slide in removable hdd carriers the 690 does.
and minus the Esata hookup on the top. and it dont have teh extra bottom fans spot the 690 does.
he will get way better air flow than in the clear case he had. he is going to give that clear case to his neice i think.
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14. June 2008 @ 14:33 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
My TRU-A (not the extreme, let alone the IFX) manages 30 idle and 41 load on my 3.15Ghz E4300 with the fan at 800rpm...
is the TRUE that good??
i know i have it OC'd to 3.6ghz but my volts are still lower than required and i do have my case out from under my desk and has plenty air circulating all around it.
right now my CPU is 32c cores 52c and my CPU fan is spinning at 1311 rpms
am i just being to anal about these temps? or should they be lower? i know this cpu is supose to run cooler than most but mine dont seem to want to run cooler.
im getting ready to get the digitaly remasterd indina jones box set. that im gonna redo with dvd-rebuild ill pay close attention to the temps while rebuilder does its thing.
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just disabled cpu smartfan. no difference i see. ill let it run like this for a hour maybe then ill set it back. cant be to good for that fan to run at 2600 rpms all the time. heres a shot of everest after changeing the settings.
in the snart fan settings i did notice a option of voltage or PWM or auto whats teh differencs in those settings? it is set at auto right now.
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14. June 2008 @ 14:49 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
im getting ready to get the digitaly remasterd indina jones box set. that im gonna redo with dvd-rebuild ill pay close attention to the temps while rebuilder does its thing.
phew, when i read that i thought there was a new box set out, this box set came out in 2003 and i'd be a bit peeved if there was a newer set out (remember the endless reissues of Star Wars and Alien dvd's)
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14. June 2008 @ 15:05 |
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Rob: Yeah, as good as they seem, the stock clear cases really aren't that good.
As for the heatsink, the results tell all - as long as you do have a fan there, it can practically be stationary and you'll get excellent temps - remember I run my case fans at a very low speed. In all honesty though Rob, your temps are fine - I just went with this heatsink so I can run my PC with no noise.
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14. June 2008 @ 15:27 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
phew, when i read that i thought there was a new box set out, this box set came out in 2003 and i'd be a bit peeved if there was a newer set out (remember the endless reissues of Star Wars and Alien dvd's)
does it have 4 disc with it Creaky? the 3 movies and then a bonus disc?
im not 100% sure but i think this one came out last year. im gonna be leaveing here in about a hour to get it and i will find out for sure.
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14. June 2008 @ 15:31 |
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14. June 2008 @ 16:31 |
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14. June 2008 @ 17:04 |
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cincyrob,
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in the snart fan settings i did notice a option of voltage or PWM or auto whats teh differencs in those settings? it is set at auto right now.
For an AF7-Pro or any PWM fan, the Smart fan control method should set to Auto and the next one down, the Smart fan control mode, should be set to PWM. Someone asked me just the other day why I didn't put a TRU or TRUE on mine and I told them it's because I don't have the need! The Freezer 7 does just fine in my case, and heat has never been an issue!! Not even with the D-940 cranked all the way up to 3.94GHz!
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