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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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2. August 2008 @ 19:37 |
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That's what he is saying. He would not use RAID0 for redundancy, because if one HDD fails, the other one is useless.
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2. August 2008 @ 19:43 |
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2. August 2008 @ 19:47 |
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Internet servers require redundancy, RAID0 is the last thing I'd use.
This is what I was responding too!
"Internet servers require redundancy" Very true. "RAID O is the last thing I'd use." Say what? The two things have little in common other than more than one disk. One is for a cloned backup and the other is for performance. The statement implies that redundancy for servers somehow is a reason not to use RAID O for performance?
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2. August 2008 @ 19:52 |
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I think you mis-understood him.
Originally posted by Soph:
Why not! It's needed for some purpose such as large file transfers, audio or video recording and encoding, or as an Internet server, and I suppose he would need them for one of those?
He was saying if I intended to use it as an Internet Server Raid0 was a bad idea.
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2. August 2008 @ 19:54 |
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lol. raid0 fights hehe.
anyone else doing builds soon? im planning one in september for about 1k. :)
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2. August 2008 @ 19:58 |
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He was saying if I intended to use it as an Internet Server Raid0 was a bad idea.
His intent wasn't clearly stated or written into his use of language! Don't you think that a consideration of you doing a budget build as an Internet server in RAID O as a possible backup is a bit of a stretch?
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2. August 2008 @ 20:00 |
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Mine is NOT QUITE done yet.
I might do another one by the end of October. This one is for a customer, but he has a MAX budget of 6 grand hehe.
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2. August 2008 @ 20:01 |
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Russ
RAID has always stood for a "Redundant Array of Independent Discs." The Wikipedia definition is wrong.
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2. August 2008 @ 20:04 |
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Basically you said that I might have an Internet server and I also mentioned RAID0. There was no other kind mentioned. He said that Raid0 for Internet Server is a bad idea.
IDK, I got the message. Let's not argue about this lol.
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2. August 2008 @ 20:12 |
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soph how comes everything is always against sam?
anyways ATM, (things change for sept) this is my build:
MGR (Micro Gaming Rig) .|. Intel Q6600 @ 3.45GHz .|. Asus P35 P5K-E/WiFi .|. 4GB 1066MHz Geil Black Dragon RAM .|. Samsung F60 SSD .|. Corsair H50-1 Cooler .|. Sapphire 4870 512MB .|. Lian Li PC-A70B .|. Be Queit P7 Dark Power Pro 850W PSU .|. 24" 1920x1200 DGM (MVA Panel) .|. 24" 1920x1080 Dell (TN Panel) .|.
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2. August 2008 @ 20:13 |
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Basically you said that I might have an Internet server
I never implied anything even close to that, but if you can show me the quote I will read it.
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I also mentioned RAID0. There was no other kind mentioned
Agreed! So when did the use of an Internet server come into play as even an option?
I wasn't debating any of those points, but I have used and will use RAIDO as a performance option. It won't do a darned thing for back up, that is unless I clone my drive for that purpose.
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2. August 2008 @ 20:17 |
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soph how comes everything is always against sam?
I'm not against Sam, I like Sam, but sometimes he exceeds his experience with conjecture based on tidbits picked up on the web. That alone is not a problem, but when he uses it for debate, he isolates some of us who knows the difference. I've known Sam for years and I've always liked him. I like him now and hope that he knows that.
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2. August 2008 @ 20:20 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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You Whaa? RAID 0?
Why not! It's needed for some purpose such as large file transfers, audio or video recording and encoding, or as an Internet server, and I suppose he would need them for one of those?
There. You quoted him about Raid0 and in the same post said that it's needed for "Why not! It's needed for some purpose such as large file transfers, audio or video recording and encoding, or as an Internet server, and I suppose he would need them for one of those?"
Shaf, you mind fixing that picture? There is a lot of empty white space you can delete out. I have a widescreen laptop and it still screws up my borders. Plus scrolling sideways is a pain with this thing :)
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2. August 2008 @ 20:26 |
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here. You quoted him about Raid0 and in the same post said that it's needed for "Why not! It's needed for some purpose such as large file transfers, audio or video recording and encoding, or as an Internet server, and I suppose he would need them for one of those?"
Abuzar
The only redundancy in your quote is the redundant question that you posted.
I didn't see a point in comparing your choice to run a RAID 0 to that of redundancy as a back up. They are two 180 degree concepts.
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2. August 2008 @ 20:42 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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soph how comes everything is always against sam?
I'm not against Sam, I like Sam...
...I've known Sam for years and I've always liked him. I like him now and hope that he knows that.
Originally posted by Sophocles:
You Sam are nothing but pretense and actually know very little (figuratively speaking) about anything regarding computers that you can't Google for the answers
Change of heart eh?
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2. August 2008 @ 20:53 |
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You Sam are nothing but pretense and actually know very little (figuratively speaking) about anything regarding computers that you can't Google for the answers
Change of heart eh?
No Sam, the same heart! Remember when I irritated you to overclock you AMD processors and you were reluctant to do it? Your concern was legitimate when one looks at expense but you walked past that point anyway. That's why I made you a mod, you were concerned about what was in front of you, not what seems to be the right answer.
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2. August 2008 @ 21:09 |
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Whatever Soph, I'm not going to argue with you. Any objective person can see what I' talking about. I respect you, but you're stubborn as hell!
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2. August 2008 @ 21:21 |
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Whatever Soph, I'm not going to argue with you. I respect you, but you're stubborn as hell!
True when seeking truth!
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Any objective person can see what I' talking about.
I'm not certain what you're or were talking about with your previous statements. All that we have in this world is the use of language. It's the bridge between ideas! I merely took what you said and what Sam said which weren't congruent, and then elucidated on their obvious differences.
I am bit of a perfectionist, a flaw which my wife was never able to overcome, but has learn to accept.
True! But it's easy to be stubborn when one is right!
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2. August 2008 @ 21:26 |
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LOL
Look through again. Basically we were talking about Raid0. Then YOU YOURSELF said it's needed for some things, among which you listed an Internet server.
Then Sam said, why use RAID0 for Internet Server? It's a bad idea.
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2. August 2008 @ 21:36 |
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I read through again and no where did I see a good description of what is a RAID.
It was this specific quote that attracted my attnention.
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Internet servers require redundancy, RAID0 is the last thing I'd use.
Internet services do indeed require redundancy, but that kind of redundancy has absolutely nothing to do with RAID0. They are black and white services.
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2. August 2008 @ 21:55 |
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Going off this RAID topic.....I need some case fans.
Sammorris: Did you keep your blackline case fans, or did you replace them? I feel like I need better ventilation...
Can anyone recommend a high performance (and if possible, SILENT) 120mm fan I can get for the back and side of my case? And one for the TRUE as well?
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2. August 2008 @ 22:08 |
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.I need some case fans
To some degree what you will choose depends on your mother boards fan plugs. If you have more than one plug with 4 pins then you should choose a fan when possible with PWM (pulse width modulation) because it allows your system to control its speeds and ergo its noise.
Scythe makes a good silent fan with PWM.
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2. August 2008 @ 22:30 |
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Besides my CPU fan, I have one other 4 pin fan plug, so I will only be able to control the speed of one of my case fans.
Can you give me a link or the name of a good scythe fan (Will this also be good for the TRUE?)?
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2. August 2008 @ 22:33 |
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lol
Just get a Silverstone FM121 and full it at full speed ;)
P.S. That's actually a bad idea.
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2. August 2008 @ 22:38 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
lol
Just get a Silverstone FM121 and full it at full speed ;)
P.S. That's actually a bad idea.
LOL no thanks...good luck with yours....lol
But seriously, I need a some fans here.
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