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I have to put forward my view on this, what does it matter? Idle temps don't have any effect on performance or longevity, all you risk is extra noise, if you have sensitive fans. You want better thermal paste to cut your load temps, assuming they're high as well.



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Isn't it logical to assume that if one has high idle temps, that one at least COULD have high load temps? Besides, we all want the best stuff right? LOL! If this diamond compound can save me even 2-5C, then 15$ could be worth it. Especially for phenom II 940, which runs even warmer. If I can cool 940 a few degrees, I might be able to take her to higher clocks. I won't hold my breath though. 4 Ram modules...



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Read about this in a tech journal somewhere a few days back. Shocking stuff!



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LOL!!! Thats hilarious. And now, i'll probably have ill will occur...



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Looks like fate has already gotten even. Windows 7 Homegroup is still screwing with me. At least with everything managed by the switch, windows 7 finally acknowledged my Home network, one of the PC's asked me to join, and asked for the password. And yet, I still have no permission to access folders that are indeed shared folders. I shared quite literally everything, so I'm a bit at a loss. And now its time to go to work.
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Read about this in a tech journal somewhere a few days back. Shocking stuff!

Sam,
The main point being that this was no mistake. Not 200 to 300 of them! Something happened between Intel's shipping Dept, and delivery to Newegg receiving them. Either they were stolen at Intel by someone who works for Intel, The Carrier, or someone at Newegg.

The most logical being it happened at Intel because the numbers and everything would have to match the invoice. At Newegg they are scanned into inventory individually on a conveyor belt, and scanned out when they are shipped, to remove them from inventory! It would be a great deal harder for it to be the carrier, as they only have the packing slip, and lack the information necessary to do a job like this. Newegg might be easier, but that would have to involve more than one person. Again because of the packing list. Someone in the office would have to supply authentic looking invoices from Intel.

I think Intel knows, because I'm sure Intel didn't make the dummys because the package should be exactly the same without "misspelled" words, and they would all have the same Serial number. I've been to Comdex in Vegas a number of times, and it occurs to me I've never seen stock at the show, only the processors in the machines they demonstrate, and perhaps a few spares for backup. There are no Direct wholesale or retail sales at the show! All they take is orders.

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Well Fellows the collections of parts started tonight for the New AMD build aka Vader Build everything gonna be Black No Led's lights. I went with Asus this time to try something different and the 965BE cause. I got it for the same price as the 955BE would be $159.99 another words.I worked out a deal,lol...I got some more parts to order friday from the egg,I'm not trying to go with a high end video card this time like my his 5770 in the UD3P of mine


parts already at rest waiting at home:)







here's my parts to come

memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231179

(Video card)Sam Maybe you can suggest another under a $100 bucks?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150396

cooler (micro center)$27.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

Love my Cooler Master PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171036

fan controller
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999171

Hard drives

250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136291
500
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136320

I got enough ODD's burners laying around



it all Go in this home. I can get it for $90.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216


Ps. need some Case fan Suggestions 140mm top and side 120mm front (All Black) Thank You

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Will,
The choices are poor of finding completely black 140mm fans. Your choices of one of these, which Sam says is a good fan, but the blade is chrome!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835129248

Either that or it's Masscool or Cooler Master, and I don't think you need 60 CFM with a top fan that spins 1500 RPM like the MassCools!

120's are a bit easier. I don't think you could go wrong with the Scythe Slipstreams, as long as you keep it to 1200 RPM on down. The also make a PWM If you have more than one 4 pin plug on the motherboard, like mine. I may well get one of these for myself!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185049

There's a lot more choices. I'm happy with the longevity of my first Scythe, and the next one. So far they seem to be more honest about the noise and the CFM of their fans. It's like Sam said, "you put a quiet fan in, and you suddenly hear fan noises you never noticed before". Sounds like an never ending battle to me! LOL

If the PWM fan works out, I'll put the 1200 RPM 53.35 CFM Silverstone in, in place of the lower front C/M fan, and I should be done! Then I can lower the speed on the 80mm, which will make things even quieter, and let the motherboard control the rear fan.

Russ



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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Will,
The choices are poor of finding completely black 140mm fans. Your choices of one of these, which Sam says is a good fan, but the blade is chrome!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835129248

Either that or it's Masscool or Cooler Master, and I don't think you need 60 CFM with a top fan that spins 1500 RPM like the MassCools!

120's are a bit easier. I don't think you could go wrong with the Scythe Slipstreams.

Russ
i no Russ,I'm trying my luck.lol...I already have 2 of the AeroCool Streamliner in my 590 case at the top if. I get 2 more. I would have remove the led lights. I may just go with that Scythe 120mm for the front fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185049

any talk about these.No Review yet at the egg but,I'll look around for other reviews

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6-002-_-Product

the top exhaust fans will be controlled at 1100rpm's with my controller anyway...
I don't care about the white cause the Arctic cooling Freezer 7 Pro has a White fan on it also

and another thing...I pulled the Heatsink out to look at it my first time looking at a up to date AMD stock heatsink and first time buying one also this joker got chopper pipes ,,LOL slick...I gotta say they beat intel on the stock heatsink look!!




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Will,
I saw the NZXT, but you said you wanted everything black!

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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Will,
I saw the NZXT, but you said you wanted everything black!

Russ
Sorry Russ the NZXT will be fine,O boy I just read something about newegg(Newegg selling counterfeit processors) What's going on?

Newegg Sticks With "Demo Boxes" - Intel Counters

Here's a follow up to the story that was broke over the weekend (here) about Newegg selling counterfeit processors. Newegg is sending customers and Intel?s response to the "demo boxes" excuse.Somebody in trouble..

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54tDqM5-6...player_embedded

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I feel a warm summer coming on. I bought the diamond cooling compound :D
Russ, a big thank you.

Fred, a big thank you. I bought from them. The reviews look good, and I'll post my findings on this wonderful site ;) I imagine it will probably help my Phenom 940 most. The poor thing as some of you know, does not have the best of cooling, and is using a stock cooler. If it drops even 3C+ than it was worth it. I worry about my PC's in the summer. They can be scorchers here. Although GM probably has warmer summers :p

By the way, I should have it thursday :p I took one for the team LOL!



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got my Q6600 and second 4870 today, cant wait to install them!



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No problem omeg, hope it works out ok for ya, I really don't know anything about it, but reading some of the reviews it seems ok I guess, Russ did confirm why the low cost how it's not real diamond powder or whatever but it seems close to it.

Eihter way I don't see how you can go wrong with it, it sure beats making it yourself which kinda looked complicated. Let us know how you make out.
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got my Q6600 and second 4870 today, cant wait to install them!
Good luck and godspeed on your endeavor. Hope all goes well for you :)



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Will: This is the best sub-$100 card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102870
It's a little under half as powerful as the HD5770, but it's exactly twice as powerful as the HD4650.
Russ: It may not be black per-se, but as you see NZXT's 140mm fans are hitting retail:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146002
Not sure how good they are, but not had any issues with the NZXT fans I've had, aside from one failed LED - no LEDs here.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Will: This is the best sub-$100 card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102870
It's a little under half as powerful as the HD5770, but it's exactly twice as powerful as the HD4650.

thanks sam for getting back to me on the issue but,I'm looking to get atlease memory size of 1gb not 512mb if, I can the his
H577F1GDG his me for $159.99 and the card has worked out well. I may just up the price to $125 atlease for a new card for the AMD build do some seaching for me please on some good quality cards in that price brackit thanks again in pointing me in the direction of getting the his Radeon HD 5770:)


Hey Sam what about this one for $119

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0-467-_-Product



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Originally posted by bigwill68:
Originally posted by sammorris:
Will: This is the best sub-$100 card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102870
It's a little under half as powerful as the HD5770, but it's exactly twice as powerful as the HD4650.

thanks sam for getting back to me on the issue but,I'm looking to get atlease memory size of 1gb not 512mb if, I can the his
H577F1GDG his me for $159.99 and the card has worked out well. I may just up the price to $125 atlease for a new card for the AMD build do some seaching for me please on some good quality cards in that price brackit thanks again in pointing me in the direction of getting the his Radeon HD 5770:)


Hey Sam what about this one for $119

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...Product


What about one of these Willy??

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Originally posted by greensman:


What about one of these Willy??

linky

Kinda liking this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102869

thanks for your interest GM that will be added to scale of balance on my finally decision:)

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Originally posted by bigwill68:
Originally posted by greensman:


What about one of these Willy??

linky

Kinda liking this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102869

thanks for your interest GM that will be added to scale of balance on my finally decision:)

Will,
If not the Sapphire, I would go with the XFX. They make a very good product! I consider them better made than most!

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Will: Why would you need 1GB of video memory? 512MB is enough to run even the most demanding games at 1920x1200 with AA applied. People seem to have a strange obsession with graphics memory these days. Most people wouldn't use more than 256MB. Buying a 1GB card that slow is throwing money away, as by the time you need 1GB, you need a GPU far more powerful than the HD5670.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Will: Why would you need 1GB of video memory? 512MB is enough to run even the most demanding games at 1920x1200 with AA applied. People seem to have a strange obsession with graphics memory these days. Most people wouldn't use more than 256MB. Buying a 1GB card that slow is throwing money away, as by the time you need 1GB, you need a GPU far more powerful than the HD5670.

Sam,
I couldn't agree more. The only reason I didn't make a mistake and buy a 1GB 9500GT, is because they were all GDDR2, and I knew that meant they had the older GPU. I bought the 512 GDDR3 with the newer GPU, and came out ahead. The old GPU ran warm, shall we say. By comparison, I've yet to see mine top 57C, Playing FC-2 at medium settings and Non-Maskable AA turned on. Looks pretty good on my screen, and the game plays just fine! My choice for his Video Card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...0-466-_-Product

The company is easy to deal with, and they make a quality product. Spend the extra $5 Will. The XFX is worth it!

Best Regards,
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Indeed, the HD5670 is 220% as powerful as the 9500GT, and the HD4870 is 240% as powerful as the HD5670, yet the HD4870 came in 512MB and 1GB versions - the 1GB card only pulled ahead even slightly at 1920x1200. Below that there's no difference.



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Will: Why would you need 1GB of video memory? 512MB is enough to run even the most demanding games at 1920x1200 with AA applied. People seem to have a strange obsession with graphics memory these days. Most people wouldn't use more than 256MB. Buying a 1GB card that slow is throwing money away, as by the time you need 1GB, you need a GPU far more powerful than the HD5670.
The Sapphire has GDDR5 RAM... does that make a difference? I saw that he was looking at the 1GB RAM equipped cards and included a few to peruse. ;) I liked the Sapphire 5670 512MB card just fine but the 1GB card was only a few more bucks and for some reason it had much better reviews. ;)

add: forgot the G in the RAM.... :p

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