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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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11. March 2010 @ 15:49 |
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Oh yah! I'll be applying this new stuff tonight! :D
Stay tuned ;)
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11. March 2010 @ 16:24 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Oh yah! I'll be applying this new stuff tonight! :D
Stay tuned ;)
DUDE... you are ate up with it ain't ya?? LOL. :)
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11. March 2010 @ 16:33 |
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yuppers, let us know how it goes.
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11. March 2010 @ 17:32 |
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Looks like my Phenom 940 REALLY needs it. The CPU is at either 59C or 54C. I hope its 54 CPU, 59 Core. But I'm not certain.
Ripbot264 might just be a good software for testing CPU stability :) My first attempt at encoding blu-ray blue screened. I knew right away that it was an OC issue. I went into bios, only to discover that the voltage was at stock value. I did that to insure low/er temps. Since Dvd rebuilder doesn't use the full potential. However, it would appear that ripbot264 comes really close to tapping that potential :D Another quad core CPU whore. OH YAH! LOL!
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11. March 2010 @ 19:29 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Since Dvd rebuilder doesn't use the full potential. However, it would appear that ripbot264 comes really close to tapping that potential :D Another quad core CPU whore. OH YAH! LOL!
use HC encoder instead of CCE. it will use all 4 cores. used it today on a 7.2gb movie(the box) knocked it out in just over 26 mins. and it used all 4 cores 96-100% cpu usage.
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11. March 2010 @ 23:58 |
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Actually, CCE is in my opinion a better encoder for 2 reasons. It does a slightly better job, and it does it as quickly as CCE, without using nearly as much potential. I think thats why they designed it that way. To free up system resources. Too bad really. I would rather have the choice of using the full potential. Then it would SMOKE HC encoder LOL!
Rob, as an example, I also encoded "The Box". ALL of my movies are under 30 minutes with my new 965Be Phenom II @ 3.8Ghz. And since CCE averages 50-60% cpu usage, there you have it ;)
I'm replacing my Thermal compound on both of my CPU's. Be right back LOL! I don't know what kind of effect it will have on either. My secondary is really tight quarters, and my primary WANTS to run at 40C for whatever reason. I'm gonna uninstall Easytune, in the hopes that something has plagued my Registry ;) I don't run it anymore, but who knows...
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12. March 2010 @ 00:20 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
Since Dvd rebuilder doesn't use the full potential. However, it would appear that ripbot264 comes really close to tapping that potential :D Another quad core CPU whore. OH YAH! LOL!
use HC encoder instead of CCE. it will use all 4 cores. used it today on a 7.2gb movie(the box) knocked it out in just over 26 mins. and it used all 4 cores 96-100% cpu usage.
Rob,
CCE also uses all 4 cores, although not as high a CPU usage, 50-60%. It might take a minute or so longer than yours. Most Re-Builds are under 30 min! I do a lot of HD conversions, and CCE seems to do the best job. Even though HC Encoder is pretty good, I don't see enough time saved to warrant the extra heat and strain on my CPU and other components, and CCE is still the better of the two programs, IMO!
Best Regards,
Russ
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12. March 2010 @ 00:45 |
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Well that tears it! LOL! I'm gonna put it off til tomorrow now. My primary system anyway. I gotta know why the fan runs that way first. Uninstalling easytune had no effect. I simply don't know why it likes resting at 40C. The CPU fan will nearly stop, to allow it to heat up! Speedfan says 150Rpm most the time, unless it increases to 41C. Then it gradually spins up. I may just install the Scythe 1900 tonight though. See how it fairs.
I'm not sure if its PWM though.
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12. March 2010 @ 01:37 |
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I got the Diamond compound applied to my secondary. She's up and running. So far, the difference is small. But it says to allow to cure for 2 hours. So about 12:30(for me) I'll check its temp again. I recorded the old temps via Speedfan. If it works well, I may apply some to other components on the board. E.g. southbridge northbridge etc. I will not however tamper with my beautiful GTX 260 :p
LOL! I may find that I should have bought 2 more vials...
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12. March 2010 @ 01:46 |
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You know just how silly I am? I cleaned the CPU over my Toilet! That's friggin crazy! At one point, I was saying to myself, DO NOT DROP THIS! LOL! Although there was some colorful language in there as well ;)
You never feel more alive, then when you take risks...
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12. March 2010 @ 02:03 |
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Haha reminds me of my A+ Cert. Teacher. He was always really anal retentive about not touching contacts on cards and PCBs. So I pulled my 2 x 2GB Mushkin XP Ascent sticks and took them with me on the last day of class. I stood up in front of everyone and LICKED the contacts full length on both sticks. LOLOL He almost kicked me out XDXDXD
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12. March 2010 @ 02:10 |
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LOL! I might do something like that, depending on my mood.
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12. March 2010 @ 02:15 |
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Ahh, when overclocking, definitely be sure that an overclock is stable. Ripbot264 is at least somewhat picky about that. It uses a great deal of quad core potential. Apparently, it blue screened on my twice. I witnessed the first, and was at work during the second one. Guess I should have bumped the voltage back up to 1.4V. It seemed to be stable like that before. I was hoping though, that 1.375 was adequate for a program that averages 90-95% usage. Given the cramped case it's in, I'm trying to keep it as cool as possible over there ;) Probably gonna have to reconnect the blow dryer fan I have on the side, when running jobs like that LOL! Nah, I think I'll give it the 1200 scythe :D
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12. March 2010 @ 03:14 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
I don't see enough time saved to warrant the extra heat and strain on my CPU
When my Quad is on and not doing video encoding it's running Seti@Home the whole time (so all 4 cores are 100% flatout 100% of the time), heat and strain are what CPU's are built for after all, just as long as cooling is sufficient... :)
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12. March 2010 @ 03:41 |
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It would appear that so far, there is zero impact on idle temperatures. I shall test the load temps tomorrow, as well as early morning idle temps. Which will allow even more curing time.
I'm curious how others apply their thermal compound. The package suggests twisting the heatsink. I simply rocked it back and forth(without picking it up) roughly 6 times, then snapped it in place.
I'm sure the load temps will change at least slightly. Otherwise its simply some stupid gimmick eh LOL! Diamond cooling, Ooohhhh...
I wonder how a micro rolling pin would fair. The idea may just have merit. But then, perhaps that's working too hard :p
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12. March 2010 @ 04:44 |
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Technique isn't too important as long as you get even coverage and don't use too much. I just put a glob in the center and set the heatsink down straight. Because the Tuniq has quite a bit of wiggle room in its AMD mountings, you can twist it a bit to work out the air bubbles. Sadly, it doesn't fit Intel quite the same, so the wiggling can only really be done before you secure it.
Also, heat doesn't really become an issue till 1.45v+ and the Tuniq can probably keep it reasonably cool up to 1.55.
A properly built PC should be able to hold 100% absolute maximum load indefinitely. If it can't do this, it needs tweaking until it does.
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12. March 2010 @ 04:55 |
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Stability is important to me to a point. I don't use many programs that ravage a quad core LOL! But since soo many of them are surfacing now, I'm just gonna let it sit at voltages/heat that are required for that overclock.
LOL! I haven't worked with the Tuniq yet. Just my Secondary pc. Which is quite cramped in there. It has the Stock 965 heatsink. Which was quite rough if you ask me. No wheres near the mirror like shine that you have ;) Gotta love an assembly line, errr...mass production.
I used a smidge less than the size of a pea. Since last time, the size of a pea (As I see it) was slightly too much. This time, should be just about right.
Thanks for the input :)
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12. March 2010 @ 05:57 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
It would appear that so far, there is zero impact on idle temperatures. I shall test the load temps tomorrow, as well as early morning idle temps. Which will allow even more curing time.
I'm curious how others apply their thermal compound. The package suggests twisting the heatsink. I simply rocked it back and forth(without picking it up) roughly 6 times, then snapped it in place.
I'm sure the load temps will change at least slightly. Otherwise its simply some stupid gimmick eh LOL! Diamond cooling, Ooohhhh...
I wonder how a micro rolling pin would fair. The idea may just have merit. But then, perhaps that's working too hard :p
Oman7,
Rocking the CPU cooler back and forth really doesn't do much. You want to rotate it on the CPU before you connect the cooler to the motherboard with the lock mechanism. I find that this spreads the thermal compound better. You can also use an old credit card to spread an even coat of compound on the CPU cooler base. The Diamond cooling should benefit the loaded CPU better than the idle temps, anyway. You don't see very many idle temps crashing a computer! LOL!!
Russ
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12. March 2010 @ 06:05 |
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I put a line down, then simply place the cooler on top. With pushpin coolers like the Freezer 7, you don't see much movement, but when attaching a cooler like an Ultra-120, it is not held in place until the last screw is tightened, so during the assembly process it slides around the CPU area, partially spreading the paste for you.
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12. March 2010 @ 06:18 |
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Hey Sam,
After a number of upgrades to XP, most of the errors have disappeared. I wouldn't let it do IE8 and SP3, as I don't use IE at all, and SP3 seems to make the computer run slower. On the + side, I haven't had a mystery crash yet, not even Firefox is giving me trouble. I let M$ install all the upgrades when I shut it down yesterday morning. When I fired it up about noon, I had a problem getting my Card Reader to work after the upgrades, but I just unplugged it from the motherboard while the reader was turned off, and plugged it back in again and it works perfect now. I'll give it some time to "hang" itself! LOL!! I would really like not to have to start all over again this soon after installing XP. We'll see!
Thanks for the encouraging words,
Russ
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12. March 2010 @ 06:24 |
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I can entirely understand why you wouldn't want to install SP3 and IE8, however, when I used XP last I used both as SP3 was required in order to use remote desktop above 1600x1200, and ie8 is, in my opinion, better than ie7.
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12. March 2010 @ 06:45 |
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That's subjective. IMO both IE8 and IE7 are terribly designed, copy-cats, and resource hogs. I don't even bother to use them at all. I don't even think my current format of Win 7 has started IE up once yet.
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12. March 2010 @ 06:49 |
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I just remember ie7 being extremely slow and very unstable. Don't mistake me for saying ie8 is good, it isn't. However, it proves a handy backup browser for when chrome fails. For example, uTorrent's WebUI is now only compatible with ie and firefox.
ie also has a better downloader than chrome, as it is not cache-tagged.
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12. March 2010 @ 06:52 |
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is ie8 any quicker than 7?
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12. March 2010 @ 06:54 |
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It depends. It seems like it on high-end PCs, but not for everyone...
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