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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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9. April 2010 @ 15:22 |
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And both of my gigabyte boards hate my Kingston Flash drive...
I may try a different brand next time. Perhaps MSI. The MSI board I have currently continues to work unhitched...
Creaky, are you saying that your network has no wait time to refresh. Because I believe XP was nearly NO wait time for refreshes...
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9. April 2010 @ 15:55 |
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No lag that i can see. Same for my linux boxes scanning the network for Windows hosts/shares
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9. April 2010 @ 15:57 |
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I wonder then, if its both boards, or simply one causing the lag. Huh. It works, its just irritating LOL!
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9. April 2010 @ 17:48 |
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Installing a single a 80mm slot cooler didn't drop the MB temp even 1C, does anyone think it might help if it was a 120mm (or 2x120mm) slot cooler so it would be right beneath the chipset? Sticking my hand in where the chipset is I can feel a very small amount of airflow but I guess it just isn't enough, or the board likes to run hot.
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9. April 2010 @ 19:45 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Installing a single a 80mm slot cooler didn't drop the MB temp even 1C, does anyone think it might help if it was a 120mm (or 2x120mm) slot cooler so it would be right beneath the chipset? Sticking my hand in where the chipset is I can feel a very small amount of airflow but I guess it just isn't enough, or the board likes to run hot.
Red_Maw,
How hot is it?
Russ
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Red_Maw
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9. April 2010 @ 22:41 |
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Idle temps are 46C with side of case off and 43C with the side on. So far I haven't seen it get over 48C, but this is a fairly cool time of the year.
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9. April 2010 @ 23:11 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Idle temps are 46C with side of case off and 43C with the side on. So far I haven't seen it get over 48C, but this is a fairly cool time of the year.
I should have asked before, but what's the motherboard model. Actually if you can send me a link, I should be able to give you some decent advice.
Russ
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9. April 2010 @ 23:22 |
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bigwill68
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9. April 2010 @ 23:47 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
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cpu cooler Cooler Master TX3
You might wanna step up to a 4 piper instead of a 3 piper cause anything below a 4 is having trouble cooling the C3's Black Editions Chips take it from me and Omegaman7 just word of warning Mr.Greensman if gonna stick with a cooler master brand atleased this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
I got the Cooler Master TX3 on my Q9550 with the UD3P Rev 1.6 board and Dual fans and the temps are at 34c at 3935ghz idle that TX3 is not made for the new AMD C3's there to Hot for 3 pipes and 92mm fans
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9. April 2010 @ 23:51 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Installing a single a 80mm slot cooler didn't drop the MB temp even 1C, does anyone think it might help if it was a 120mm (or 2x120mm) slot cooler so it would be right beneath the chipset? Sticking my hand in where the chipset is I can feel a very small amount of airflow but I guess it just isn't enough, or the board likes to run hot.
Red_Maw,
How hot is it?
Russ
Thanks Russ. :) Red_Maw have you "fixed" your fan direction and what about your chipset coolers; do they have fans or "significant" cooling?? ;)
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9. April 2010 @ 23:53 |
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Thanks BigWilly.... I'll see about a different cooler then. :(
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10. April 2010 @ 00:09 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Gigabyte X58A-UD3R
Thanks Russ.
Considering that the meaty part of your NB Heatsink is wider than mine, I would see if you could mount a 40mm vertically on the memory end of the heatsink! Just be careful of the heatpipe that runs through it. Have it blowing from the front of the computer towards the rear, and it should drop 8-10C.
Oh! Not just any fan, but arguably the best 40mm fan on the market today!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835129036
The specs speak for themselves!
2200 RPM
6.5 CFM
26 dBA
Most 40mm fans spin at anywhere from 8000 to 15,000 RPM and higher, don't have ball bearings, and are junk! On my P35-DS3R, I screwed one right to the top of the NB Heatsink and it dropped the temp over 10C, the exact same amount as the Enzotech Forged Copper NB Heatsink, using the same fan. The fan is also 40x40x30, a bit thicker than all the other 40mm ones. Best 40mm I've ever seen and not heard!
Best Regards,
Russ
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bigwill68
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10. April 2010 @ 00:45 |
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Originally posted by greensman:
Thanks BigWilly.... I'll see about a different cooler then. :(
I would'en know what you would think of this one.I was reading the reviews people was getting out of this cooler with the new C3's chips that . i could find it seems to me all the new C3's are at 46c to 47c straight out the box with the stock cooler and the 3 pipe after marker cooler as well but after having the 3 pipe Artic 64 hooked up and dropping the 4 pipe Cooler Master on it helped by 12 degree drop:) Good Luck Greensman on your choice!!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004
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Red_Maw
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10. April 2010 @ 00:55 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Considering that the meaty part of your NB Heatsink is wider than mine, I would see if you could mount a 40mm vertically on the memory end of the heatsink! Just be careful of the heatpipe that runs through it. Have it blowing from the front of the computer towards the rear, and it should drop 8-10C.
Oh! Not just any fan, but arguably the best 40mm fan on the market today!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835129036
The specs speak for themselves!
2200 RPM
6.5 CFM
26 dBA
Most 40mm fans spin at anywhere from 8000 to 15,000 RPM and higher, don't have ball bearings, and are junk! On my P35-DS3R, I screwed one right to the top of the NB Heatsink and it dropped the temp over 10C, the exact same amount as the Enzotech Forged Copper NB Heatsink, using the same fan. The fan is also 40x40x30, a bit thicker than all the other 40mm ones. Best 40mm I've ever seen and not heard!
Best Regards,
Russ
We'll that is an idea, but I'd have to get rid of my oversized cpu cooler, which may fix the problem in itself lol. This is what it looks like inside my case:
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10. April 2010 @ 02:17 |
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Red_Maw,
My, it is a bit crowded in there! LOL!! See where the red line is? There looks to be enough room below that to fit a 40mm fan. It doesn't appear that the heatpipe comes all the way out this end of the NB heatsink. Just be careful so you don't put a hole in the heatpipe itself.
With mine I put my video card in the lower 8x slot because of heat issues with the motherboard temps. the heatsink actually goes under the video card, if it's in the top slot, as it looks a bit like a door stop!
Best Regards,
Russ
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10. April 2010 @ 02:27 |
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Red_Maw... I'm looking at your pic and it seems you need to make sure you have your fans all doing the same thing on the cooler and then the exhaust fan too. ;) I'm sure you do but make dang sure they are.... if you can get a few more cpm's out of the back fan to make sure it's pulling enough air out that would be good too. :) NOW how bout the "intake" from the side panel?? I'm betting with proper "side air flow" you can drop your temps anywhere from 5C-10C. I know cause I've done it before... another option is pulling your chipset coolers and re-applying TIM... NOT sure I'd do that at this point but it's a viable option. ;)
Russ I'm not seeing a place to "mount" dat fan you is talking about... I like the idea fo sho but where does he put it?? I looked the mobo up on the EGG so just asking. :)
add: Russ you posted as I was writing. :)
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10. April 2010 @ 04:30 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
Originally posted by greensman:
Thanks BigWilly.... I'll see about a different cooler then. :(
I would'en know what you would think of this one.I was reading the reviews people was getting out of this cooler with the new C3's chips that . i could find it seems to me all the new C3's are at 46c to 47c straight out the box with the stock cooler and the 3 pipe after marker cooler as well but after having the 3 pipe Artic 64 hooked up and dropping the 4 pipe Cooler Master on it helped by 12 degree drop:) Good Luck Greensman on your choice!!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004
Will,
Only the 965BE though. The 955BE/C3 seems to run cooler. Chris has one running at 3.8GHz with a Freezer 64 on it, and it runs very cool according to what he posted. If the Freezer 64 Pro doesn't work out for me, I'll have to go with the Noctua NH-U9B SE2 92mm SSO CPU Cooler, and make new brackets for it so it can be mounted exhausting to the rear. It's present mounting for AMD motherboards points the air at either the PSU or the Video card. I don't like the Cooler Master because it's so tall, I would have to give up my side top exhaust 80mm fan, and I would rather not do that if I can help it! Besides, I'm only looking for an everyday 3.8GHz to begin with. I can use the 19x CPU multiplier and the memory will be spot on at 1066MHz, and more importantly be running in EPP mode with the memory under the control of EPP, a noticeable improvement in overall speed! I can't do that with mine because of the locked CPU multiplier. I'll either sell the 630 if it doesn't work in Oxi-II, or keep it for a backup. No one at AMD or Foxconn seems to be able to give me a definitive answer as to whether the 630 will work in the AM2+ motherboard I have in Oxi-II. The motherboard can handle a 95w CPU, and it will be running stock, so I'll give it a shot and see if it works. It should work in any AM2+ motherboard though! It does have the DDR2 memory controller.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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Red_Maw
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10. April 2010 @ 05:02 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Red_Maw,
My, it is a bit crowded in there! LOL!! See where the red line is? There looks to be enough room below that to fit a 40mm fan. It doesn't appear that the heatpipe comes all the way out this end of the NB heatsink. Just be careful so you don't put a hole in the heatpipe itself.
With mine I put my video card in the lower 8x slot because of heat issues with the motherboard temps. the heatsink actually goes under the video card, if it's in the top slot, as it looks a bit like a door stop!
Best Regards,
Russ
Guess I can give it a try, can't really go wrong for 5$ lol.
Originally posted by greensman:
Red_Maw... I'm looking at your pic and it seems you need to make sure you have your fans all doing the same thing on the cooler and then the exhaust fan too. ;) I'm sure you do but make dang sure they are.... if you can get a few more cpm's out of the back fan to make sure it's pulling enough air out that would be good too. :) NOW how bout the "intake" from the side panel?? I'm betting with proper "side air flow" you can drop your temps anywhere from 5C-10C. I know cause I've done it before... another option is pulling your chipset coolers and re-applying TIM... NOT sure I'd do that at this point but it's a viable option. ;)
Russ I'm not seeing a place to "mount" dat fan you is talking about... I like the idea fo sho but where does he put it?? I looked the mobo up on the EGG so just asking. :)
There's no side fans on this case, just 3x120mm front (intake), 2x140mm top (exhaust, blocked by cpu cooler as you saw) and 1x120mm rear (exhaust, again occupied by cpu cooler).
I'll let you guy's know how the 40mm fan works out once it arrives, thanks for the help.
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10. April 2010 @ 08:25 |
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Red_Maw I"m afraid of the fan you may have ordered. Looking at the mobo again it seems you only have a few mm of room to install a little fan. You might want to look at ordering a "thin" fan just in case. ;)
Is there room for a "side intake" fan on the case?? If so I'd install one today!! :p
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10. April 2010 @ 08:27 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Will,
Only the 965BE though. The 955BE/C3 seems to run cooler. Chris has one running at 3.8GHz with a Freezer 64 on it, and it runs very cool according to what he posted. If the Freezer 64 Pro doesn't work out for me, I'll have to go with the Noctua NH-U9B SE2 92mm SSO CPU Cooler, and make new brackets for it so it can be mounted exhausting to the rear. It's present mounting for AMD motherboards points the air at either the PSU or the Video card. I don't like the Cooler Master because it's so tall, I would have to give up my side top exhaust 80mm fan, and I would rather not do that if I can help it! Besides, I'm only looking for an everyday 3.8GHz to begin with. I can use the 19x CPU multiplier and the memory will be spot on at 1066MHz, and more importantly be running in EPP mode with the memory under the control of EPP, a noticeable improvement in overall speed! I can't do that with mine because of the locked CPU multiplier. I'll either sell the 630 if it doesn't work in Oxi-II, or keep it for a backup. No one at AMD or Foxconn seems to be able to give me a definitive answer as to whether the 630 will work in the AM2+ motherboard I have in Oxi-II. The motherboard can handle a 95w CPU, and it will be running stock, so I'll give it a shot and see if it works. It should work in any AM2+ motherboard though! It does have the DDR2 memory controller.
Russ
Russ you look at dis cooler yet?? I'm looking up the dimensions right now. :)
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10. April 2010 @ 08:27 |
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Omega: I have a Win7 and a Server 2008R2 PC networked together, so same thing essentially. No lag here. I will lag if I select an idle drive as they're set to spin down when idle but no lag there. Perhaps there's a setting set to scan drives, and yours too are spun down at idle. I know that used to be a problem for me in Vista I think it was.
Have you tried your USB drive in a USB hub?
Personally I think having a 40mm fan drop chipset temps by 10 degrees implies a problem with airflow through the case, which is normal if you're going for silence, and if you are, you can just leave the chipset unsinked, having them run that warm doesn't cause any problems.
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10. April 2010 @ 08:38 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: I have a Win7 and a Server 2008R2 PC networked together, so same thing essentially. No lag here. I will lag if I select an idle drive as they're set to spin down when idle but no lag there. Perhaps there's a setting set to scan drives, and yours too are spun down at idle. I know that used to be a problem for me in Vista I think it was.
Have you tried your USB drive in a USB hub?
Personally I think having a 40mm fan drop chipset temps by 10 degrees implies a problem with airflow through the case, which is normal if you're going for silence, and if you are, you can just leave the chipset unsinked, having them run that warm doesn't cause any problems.
I actually agree with you Sammy and the reason for asking about the side "intake" fan.. ;)
Because I'm lazy and can't remember (CRS disease) ... what case do you have Red_Maw?
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10. April 2010 @ 08:41 |
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A good example of this is my PCH which gets to 63C when I play games with my side fans off, due to the immense heat of the nearby 4870X2s. If I turn the side fans up to max, that drops to the low-mid 30s.
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10. April 2010 @ 08:49 |
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For a week or so now i've had a section of lady's tights on, on the front of my Antec 900 more specifically :p (and no i don't know what denier they are). Got sick and tired of all the dust and tumbleweeds coating everything inside. As this machine is running Seti@Home all the time when it's on (ie i won't have the machine sat idling when i'm not encoding) the temps previously were up to approx 60C, now we've had a couple of really warm days (Yay!) i'm up to 62/63C. I'd rather suffer those 2 or 3 extra degrees to keep out all the crud. Obviously i'll have to keep an eye on the temps as the summer finally approaches though.
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Originally posted by creaky:
For a week or so now i've had a section of lady's tights on
Me too, LOL!
Really tho...I've heard of computers being "sexy"...and calling my pc "she" like a boat...but thats taking things to a more intimate level...
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