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4. July 2010 @ 06:25 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The amount of airflow you think you need, and the amount of airflow you actually need are quite different. A single 80mm 1500rpm fan would be plenty sufficient for an HTPC.
These are pretty quiet, in good vibration-free cases at least:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835610004
Sam,
The problem is the inlet area vs the outlet area. As you look at the case head on there are two vents, one on the top right near the right rear, and one on the right side, near the rear of the case. The strongest 1500 rpm fan I could find was a Scythe S-Flex, at 21.5 cfm.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185100
I also built a stock AMD Brisbane 5200+ using a Gigabyte MA78LM-S2H in this exact case. It was supplied by the customer, as I never would have recommended it to anyone. In fact, Kevin gave me the cooler from his Phenom II 940BE for this build. The stock cooler ran too hot, idling in the 49-50C range. The 4 pipe cooler knocked that down to the low to mid 40s, but I wasn't entirely happy with the temps, at all. I picked the Scythe over the Nexus because it had a quieter blade design, moved a little more air, and could be controlled by the motherboard with a long enough wire on it to reach the fan header. While there were some 80mm fans in the 32 cfm range, all were far too loud to even consider. The Silverstone would have been great, and I would have bought it, until Shaff pointed out to me that it wouldn't fit in the space provided.
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Russ
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4. July 2010 @ 06:44 |
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No stock of the S-Flex right now though, and 20.2CFM isn't a lot different from 21.5CFM. Having personally tested the 80mm Nexus, when it's not attached to anything that picks up vibrations it's very quiet. In something very sensitive to vibrations though, probably not the best choice. Generally the highest fan speeds that are in the 'very quiet' range are up to about 1600rpm at 80mm, 1100rpm at 120mm and 900rpm at 140mm. Beyond that it's just quiet. Any 80mm fan capable of pushing as much as 32CFM is going to be too noisy. You don't need that much airflow for a basic HTPC, nowhere near it.
My server runs as an HTPC, and in addition to having no fan at all on the CPU cooler, it also has 13 hard drives to cool, as well as [albeit at idle] quite a large graphics card. The exhaust fans are one 120mm and two 80mm fans, the 120 runs typically around 350-400rpm and the 80s about 500rpm. There's a front 120mm at 1100, but it, along with the pair of 80s, are solely responsible for the PSU and 9 of the 13 hard drives. The main CPU area has the front bay fan from the silverstone bay [which I want to reduce in speed] and the 400rpm 120 at the back. CPU idles below 40C, doesn't load much into the 50s if I remember rightly.
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When I bought the HTPC case, airflow was not the most important factor. Looks and price were. I figured I could deal with the little things, e.g. airflow. And since it resides beneath a stereo receiver, and only has maybe a ½" between them, I'm concerned about enough airflow getting in. It's location is non negotiable...
My brother loves the HTPC. I gave him either 2 or 3 choices, he chose the HEC HTPC. The price was right, the looks were sharp. Unfortunate about the airflow, but I think most HTPC's in its price range suffer from SOMETHING LOL!
Sam, thanks for the recommendation. That Nexus fan looks very quiet! I think I'll go with that one, and see how temps look before and after.
Russ, the 965 cooler fan, is insane to say the least! I've seen it hit well over 5,000Rpms! While I think the 965 cooler could cool the Athlon 5200, the fan would probably get too loud at times. And no. He doesn't do overclocking. That board can't even do overclocking. Smoothest board I own though :p (MSI K9N6SGM-V) Virtually flawless, unlike the gigabyte boards :p
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4. July 2010 @ 15:04 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
When I bought the HTPC case, airflow was not the most important factor. Looks and price were. I figured I could deal with the little things, e.g. airflow. And since it resides beneath a stereo receiver, and only has maybe a ½" between them, I'm concerned about enough airflow getting in. It's location is non negotiable...
My brother loves the HTPC. I gave him either 2 or 3 choices, he chose the HEC HTPC. The price was right, the looks were sharp. Unfortunate about the airflow, but I think most HTPC's in its price range suffer from SOMETHING LOL!
Sam, thanks for the recommendation. That Nexus fan looks very quiet! I think I'll go with that one, and see how temps look before and after.
Russ, the 965 cooler fan, is insane to say the least! I've seen it hit well over 5,000Rpms! While I think the 965 cooler could cool the Athlon 5200, the fan would probably get too loud at times. And no. He doesn't do overclocking. That board can't even do overclocking. Smoothest board I own though :p (MSI K9N6SGM-V) Virtually flawless, unlike the gigabyte boards :p
Oman7,
Is this the computer that's getting your old 940? Given the small amount of room, what do you plan to use as a cooler?
I don't understand why you say that about the Gigabyte boards. For all but the lowest price computers, I use either of these Gigabyte motherboards. Smooth as glass and virtually trouble free. The MA-785GM-US2H, is the one Fred did his build with. I'm using one for my current build, for a friend up in Massachusetts. HD 4200 Graphics, and the same Realtek ALC889A audio as my 790x. I did 23 (I think) builds with this board in the past year, and a number of others with the Gigabyte MA78LM-S2H. No problems or failures. In fact the only problems I've had with Gigabyte motherboards in the last 15 months, have been with my own computer, some of which was my own fault! LOL!!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128408
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128394
For inexpensive stock builds, the Foxconn M61PNV I have in Oxi can't be beat for the $44 price, but it looks like there's a big rush to DDR3, so it's days are numbered.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6155&Tpk=m61pmv
It can handle CPUs up to 95w, so it's pretty ideal for a low cost Athlon IIx4 630 Quad build.
Best Regards,
Russ
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I should have explained further. The MSI board currently housed in that case, is an AM2 board. It can NOT support the 940. In fact, it would probably be pointless to put an original phenom in there. If it even supports it. At the time of release, MSI's homepage would say supported one day, and not the next. They couldn't make up their mind whether to support it or not! Which is fine. The 5200 is a solid performer for that board.
Gigabyte boards are wonderful boards. Every one that I have bought, performs without hitch. The Cooler Master haf932 is another story. The front usb ports are irritating to say the least. One day, I'll open it up and correct the problem. I compare the gigabyte boards to the MSI, because the MSI does several things faster than the gigabyte boards. Still not sure why yet. But windows 7 installs in half the time, flash drives are acknowledged 10X faster. It's a shame that board is severely outdated ;)
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4. July 2010 @ 16:40 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I should have explained further. The MSI board currently housed in that case, is an AM2 board. It can NOT support the 940. In fact, it would probably be pointless to put an original phenom in there. If it even supports it. At the time of release, MSI's homepage would say supported one day, and not the next. They couldn't make up their mind whether to support it or not! Which is fine. The 5200 is a solid performer for that board.
Gigabyte boards are wonderful boards. Every one that I have bought, performs without hitch. The Cooler Master haf932 is another story. The front usb ports are irritating to say the least. One day, I'll open it up and correct the problem. I compare the gigabyte boards to the MSI, because the MSI does several things faster than the gigabyte boards. Still not sure why yet. But windows 7 installs in half the time, flash drives are acknowledged 10X faster. It's a shame that board is severely outdated ;)
Oman7,
The Foxconn M61PMV is the same way as far as installing the OS, booting up, flash drives, etc! The basic nVidia 430 chipset motherboard with 6100 or 6150 graphics is probably one of the best low priced motherboards to have ever graced the Planet. I'm pretty sure that the current Foxconn I have will be the last of it's kind though. The push is on to obsolete DDR2. DDR3 is becoming cheaper than DDR2, and most DDR2 memory costs more than twice what the same memory cost only 15 months ago.
This last revision motherboard I have has 4 Sata 3.0GB/s ports, rather than the two of the originals. These boards found their way into computers from Dell, HP, Compaq, eMachine, Gateway and Asus, under all sorts of brand names, with most of the generics being made by foxconn and MSI. They were fast because of their simplicity, with no HD graphics, or HD Sound. They are good for about 3 years of hard use, before the Caps give up, and the latest ones can handle any 95w or less AMD Chip. While the original AGP models only addressed 2GB of 333/400 DDR memory, the newest ones can address 4GB of 667/800/1066 DDR2 memory. That they have survived from AGP to PCIE with very few changes, is a testament to it's simple, basic design. As they say, speed comes in many flavors! It's impressive to watch how fast one boots up!
Russ
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4. July 2010 @ 17:17 |
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That MSI of mine is running 4Gb of memory :p
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6. July 2010 @ 16:54 |
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Came across this HD 4670 video card and I couldn't turn it down for the price. $59.99 with a $10 MIR and free shipping. $49.99 seems like a good deal to me! I'm going to put it in my computer to replace the 9500GT in it. The 9500GT will go in Oxi to replace the 8400GS in it after I get the new one from MSI. I just bought Age of Empires II, Age of Kings, and the Conquerors sequel for $20. Got tired of fooling around with downloads that don't work!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as..._-14150450-L08A
This is a 24 hour deal for preferred customers at Newegg, so it might show a higher price.
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6. July 2010 @ 17:04 |
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good to see you got it in the end russ. One of my fave games. Try and get red alert 2 and the expansion yuris revenge. My favourite RTS games ever.
now if only that mobo was an asus :p
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6. July 2010 @ 17:37 |
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(shaffaaf)now if only that mobo was an asus :p
Shaff,
Yup! And if only the CPU was an Intel! Not! LOL!! I love my AMD and my Motherboard.
Rapidcrap links were dead, BTW! NP though, as the price was right. Russell really digs this game, and he is brilliant at it. His Dad was 60 when he was born, and he left School at 16 to take care of the Family Farm, after his father got sick. He loves to stack the deck against himself, and fight his way back. He usually wins too! Not bad for a Farm Boy from Maryland! LOL!!
What do you think about the new Video card? $49.99 a good deal for it?
Best Regards,
Russ
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6. July 2010 @ 20:18 |
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hehe, if it was an intel asus combo im sure it'd stop working randomly lol.
not sure how much more the 5670 is but if this is about $20 less than that its a bargin, and a massive upgrade to your 9500GT. I thought amd GPUs didn't work well for you though?
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6. July 2010 @ 20:29 |
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HD4670 vs 9500GT: 80-85% improvement
HD5670 vs HD4670: 25-30% improvement
9500GT vs 8400GS: 330-350% improvement
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6. July 2010 @ 20:32 |
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Originally posted by shaffaaf:
hehe, if it was an intel asus combo im sure it'd stop working randomly lol.
not sure how much more the 5670 is but if this is about $20 less than that its a bargin, and a massive upgrade to your 9500GT. I thought amd GPUs didn't work well for you though?
Shaff,
I haven't had one since the 850GT (Former 800GTS) AGP 8x. I figured it was time ti give one another try. That and XFX makes good stuff. The price difference is $39 to $45, and that's for a 512MB one. The 1MB ones are over $55 higher. I guess that does make it a bargain.
BTW, I asked Sam, when I installed the 630 Quad in Oxi, the graphics improved greatly over what the 8400GS had. Much more fine detail and texture in AOE II, plus the little market booths had detailed items in them. I was just curious as to why. I didn't think that the CPU had very much to do with Graphics detail???
Russ
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6. July 2010 @ 20:45 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
HD4670 vs 9500GT: 80-85% improvement
HD5670 vs HD4670: 25-30% improvement
9500GT vs 8400GS: 330-350% improvement
Thanks Sam. Looks like a very good deal to me.
Russ
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I just tested two of my scrap 60mm fans. One is bordering on complete silence, and doesn't move as much air as I would like. It'd probably be lucky to bring my Northbridge temps down 2-5C. While the other moves quite a bit of air, is 8 times as noisy. Partially due to a plastic against plastic sound. My guess is the design is collapsing, and I'm getting a plastic grinding sound. Suffice to say, I probably won't use either. But I will probably see what the near silent fan can accomplish ;)
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7. July 2010 @ 03:40 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I just tested two of my scrap 60mm fans. One is bordering on complete silence, and doesn't move as much air as I would like. It'd probably be lucky to bring my Northbridge temps down 2-5C. While the other moves quite a bit of air, is 8 times as noisy. Partially due to a plastic against plastic sound. My guess is the design is collapsing, and I'm getting a plastic grinding sound. Suffice to say, I probably won't use either. But I will probably see what the near silent fan can accomplish ;)
Oman7,
You don't have an old AMD cooler laying around. Unless you can mount a 60mm right on the heatsink, I doubt if it can ever move enough air with one to do any good. The fans that come with the Sempron, Athlon, Athlon IIx2 and x4s move a great deal of air, and they are all 70x70x15mm, and move some serious air quietly. The fan that comes with the 4 piper for the higher end chips are too wide as they are 70x70x20mm. You mention your Brother had a 5200+ Brisbane. See if he still has the cooler for it. Same fan on all of them.
Russ
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7. July 2010 @ 04:23 |
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The HTPC is mine, I loaned it to him. It employs a 5200 athlon x 2. His main PC utilizes exactly the same processor, in the 790GP-DS4H. Both processors are utilizing the stock fans/heatsinks. I have no spares :( I realize you offered me one of yours, but I'm sure I can come up with something. I like being creative every now and again ;)
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
The HTPC is mine, I loaned it to him. It employs a 5200 athlon x 2. His main PC utilizes exactly the same processor, in the 790GP-DS4H. Both processors are utilizing the stock fans/heatsinks. I have no spares :( I realize you offered me one of yours, but I'm sure I can come up with something. I like being creative every now and again ;)
Oman7,
I have to go to the post office Thursday or Friday to ship something to a Friend in Texas. Thanks to the long Holiday weekend, that check for my friend's build from Massachusetts doesn't clear until today. I just double checked and I have 3, so pop me your address to my email, and I'll send it out at the same time.
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Russ
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7. July 2010 @ 06:13 |
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I assume by 850GT you mean X850XT? That was a top-end gaming card in its day, doesn't seem like thje sort of thing you would have gone with. I don't know what an 800GTS is either :S
As I think I explained before, the CPU has no direct link to graphics detail, but it could have indirect effects. If the game automatically adjusts settings, and for whatever crazy reason turns the graphics up higher if you have a better CPU, that could obviously cause it. It could simply be that the model count is increased in strategy games though, as that will be CPU related.
The coolers for the old Athlon XPs, at least the ones system builders used [not the same as the OEM coolers it would seem] used 60mm fans direct to the heatsink. Granted, the heatsinks barely did the job, but then so did any cooler on those chips thanks to the lack of a heatspreader. Those things were quite loud at 5000rpm though, especially since this was the days before fan control.
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7. July 2010 @ 07:42 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I assume by 850GT you mean X850XT? That was a top-end gaming card in its day, doesn't seem like thje sort of thing you would have gone with. I don't know what an 800GTS is either :S
As I think I explained before, the CPU has no direct link to graphics detail, but it could have indirect effects. If the game automatically adjusts settings, and for whatever crazy reason turns the graphics up higher if you have a better CPU, that could obviously cause it. It could simply be that the model count is increased in strategy games though, as that will be CPU related.
The coolers for the old Athlon XPs, at least the ones system builders used [not the same as the OEM coolers it would seem] used 60mm fans direct to the heatsink. Granted, the heatsinks barely did the job, but then so did any cooler on those chips thanks to the lack of a heatspreader. Those things were quite loud at 5000rpm though, especially since this was the days before fan control.
You are right! The X800XTS (it was about 5 years ago) was a limited edition model, right at the end of the run for the X850XT. It essentially was the X850XT with only 12 pipes working. I got the other 4 pipes activated and turned it into an X850XT. I bought it knowing that it was likely that I could successfully activate the pipes. It also had a newer cooler running GPU chip (G92, I think) than the older models, the same as the last X850XT had. I used it until I built the E4300 and bought the XFX 7600GT. Russell used it for about a year and then when I put Oxi-1 together, I sold it to a Kid I know, who needed one. Still working!
I was meaning current chips for the coolers. All AMD simple coolers today have a 70x70x15mm, 9 bladed 3200 rpm fans that are very quiet when used for my fan mod, as there's no back pressure at all. They started using 70mm fans around the time of socket 754. They had that Holographic AMD on the fan hub, that stood still! It works very well for me cooling the chipset, and since the nearest thing for the air to hit is about 4 inches away, it makes almost no noise at all. It's hard to hear with the side cover off. I have the alarm set for it, in case it quits, because you would never hear it stop! ball bearing too, so it's very durable. It's surprisingly very vibration free too, given it's 3200 rpm. Does a real good job of cooling the chipset on mine.
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ATI never used the letter S in a brand extension, you might be thinking of the X800XT Platinum Edition, but that was a flagship product, not a cut-down of something superior.
There was the XT Platinum, XT, Pro, GTO and GT in ATI's lineup back then, GT/GTO being a getback at nvidia for using XT. Thankfully that confusing tradeoff soon ended, ironically nvidia's side first - not like them to consolidate product lines.
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Originally posted by sammorris:
ATI never used the letter S in a brand extension, you might be thinking of the X800XT Platinum Edition, but that was a flagship product, not a cut-down of something superior.
There was the XT Platinum, XT, Pro, GTO and GT in ATI's lineup back then, GT/GTO being a getback at nvidia for using XT. Thankfully that confusing tradeoff soon ended, ironically nvidia's side first - not like them to consolidate product lines.
Sam,
This was a Sapphire, and it was an X800GTO! I just didn't remember it until I saw this post and the GTO popped right out at me. Hell, we're talking about 5 years ago or more. I'm also more familiar with nVidia, than I am with Ati. The last ones were all X850GTs, with 4 pipes disabled, at Fire sale prices. I think I paid $85 for it with a $20 MIR from Sapphire. The X850GT was going for about $129, on sale at the time, if I remember rightly. Mine performed dead even with the X850GT, and I even overclocked it! Great card for it's day!
Russ
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7. July 2010 @ 09:44 |
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Yeah that was a great generation for ATI, nvidia were still recovering from the embarassment
that was the Geforce FX. The 7 series is where things got interesting.
Rob: All looks good, but why the 850W PSU? Sirely a 650 or 750 would have enough connectors?
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7. July 2010 @ 10:05 |
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your 100% right Sam but the 850 is only $10 more than the 750 so why not...lol tbh the 650 would be enough as it is in my system now. but once again the price difference in them right now is so small why not get the bigger one.
whats your thought on the GPU? i know when i go to buy one within the next 3-6 months there will be something different and prolly better, im just trying to get ideas on parts like that and the mobo. i know the I5 and the PSU's arent gonna change within that time but everything else is always changing weekly.
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