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17. August 2008 @ 17:41

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Those who don't appreciate how good raptors are for OS drives haven't used one. The read/write speed of my HD753LJ and 37GB Raptor is the same, 82MB/s for both. For loading an OS though, the raptor is MILES ahead, and that's an old one. It's all in the seek time.

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Mort81

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17. August 2008 @ 17:56

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GM,

I realize you could care less about what I think :D, but I am still partial towards the DFI LT LP X48 TR2 for what it's worth ;)

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17. August 2008 @ 18:15

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Originally posted by Mort81:
GM,

I realize you could care less about what I think :D, but I am still partial towards the DFI LT LP X48 TR2 for what it's worth ;)

That is the furthest thing from the truth that I've ever heard on this thread, let alone the forums. :) btw did you see how much it is now?? :D me is getting the click and buy button frenzy.

I'm just making sure that I'm spending my money wisely and to check and make sure NOTHING has changed in the last couple of months or so. :D

Now give me a hug and it'll all be ok.... hehehe. :P

.....gm

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17. August 2008 @ 18:18

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sammorris: The reason I wanted to know about the raptor's noise is because I wanted to change my seagate to something that doesn't sound like a blender... Then I saw the nexus drive-a-ways in your system specs....those only fit in 5.25" bays, which means I can't keep it in the hard disk cage, right? Is there any silencer that can stay in a 3.5" bay?

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17. August 2008 @ 18:21

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Not unless you make one yourself sadly, else I would have done it.
The 36GB Raptors are louder than Seagates for seeking (even the early ones) - the 150s are perhaps on a par with the more modern seagates but still very pronounced. Samsungs produce the lowest amount of seek noise, but can vibrate a lot in cheap cases, so a silentbox is still recommended. Once in one of those though, it'll be practically silent.
Sadly I've stopped using my silentboxes as the S-ATA connectors stopped making good contact.

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Mort81

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17. August 2008 @ 18:38

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GM,

I've liked the LT LP X48 since the day it was released. I like the oem NB cooler and included audio card, not to mention, they include round (green) IDE cables with it too as opposed to the flat ribbon cables most manufactures include.

if you should choose to use a TRUE or TRU with it you can easily overcome the clearance problem with the oem NB cooler via an aftermarket NB cooler. otherwise the oem NB cooler should work fine and dandy with a smaller cpu cooler (92mm) eg. arctic cooling 7 pro, OCZ vendetta, or similiar.

it looks to be very comparable to the asus rampage formula but with a more appealing price tag.

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17. August 2008 @ 22:07

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sammorris,

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Sadly I've stopped using my silentboxes as the S-ATA connectors stopped making good contact.

Use a medium bristle toothbrush on the cables, slot and in the drive socket itself. Works very well!

Best,
Russ

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18. August 2008 @ 01:42

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Originally posted by Mort81:
GM,

I realize you could care less about what I think :D, but I am still partial towards the DFI LT LP X48 TR2 for what it's worth ;)

yeh me too!!! I just bought it... LOL. ;P

...gm

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18. August 2008 @ 07:03

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Unfortunately it's a bit more severe than that Russ, the cables don't stay in the slot. you can wiggle them a good 30 degrees side to side, and they come out with barely any force at all. The clips at the side of the connector are busted I think.

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18. August 2008 @ 07:37

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sammorris
Is it the cables themselves, the sockets or both. Some of the newer ones I've gotten lately, have a better spring release on them, and that helps a bit! I don't know why they had to be so damn flimsy to begin with! LOL!!

Russ

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18. August 2008 @ 07:39

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It's the socket, as the problem occurs with all cables - the spring-clipped ones don't 'clip' in the socket, they hang loose like all the others.

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18. August 2008 @ 07:43

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sammoris,
I gather it's on the hard drive end? Gigabytes sockets are pretty good!

Russ

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18. August 2008 @ 07:44

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It's the enclosure, not the drive or the cable.

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18. August 2008 @ 07:47

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sammorris,
Maybe you could get a new socket for it??? Like from an external bracket like the GB comes with? The one that goes in the case slot!

Russ

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18. August 2008 @ 07:52

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The socket's soldered to a small PCB that runs through the foam insulation to outside the case. To replace it I'd run the risk of ripping off the foam which defeats the point of using the boxes in the first place.
Plus, if I use these boxes, I run them externally for the lowest noise, so that bracket from Gigabyte is required! lol

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19. August 2008 @ 21:05

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Thanks for the ideas fellas.... I've been looking at another AV for some time now knowing that AVG was updating. I've heard some negatives about it but I think the settings that Russ gave us might be of some help. ;)

Give Avira free personal antivirus a try.

http://www.free-av.com/

I've use AVG and Avast and like Avira the best out of the three.

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20. August 2008 @ 00:58

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I finally got a TRUE and installed it....
I got some questions....Here are some pics:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9284/dsc00091va8.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1776/dsc00090pb1.jpg

Does it look right? Is the fan clip supposed to not go in all the way and stick out a little like that?
And in the other pic, does it look flat? I wanna make sure I have complete contact...

Also, the scythe fan I got w/ it has a 3-pin connector, and the cpu fan header is 4-pin, so my only option is to plug it in to the one of the system fan header or the pwr fan header...which, I assume I'll be able to view fan speed with??

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20. August 2008 @ 01:45

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As far as AntiVirus: ESET NOD 32 Has Worked better 4 me then anything
I used AVG a while back but it interfered with a bunch of my Programs
Anybody here fool with Vista ? As I stated earlier my new computers HDD (older Maxtor 160) would not let me install WinXP, but it let Vista Install..One of my HDDs came up with read only (big blue R right beside the drive letter),properties will not let me uncheck read only..All users is allowed.But it won't let Dr DivX Convert a DVD,keeps popping up read only. I just can't figure it out. AutoGK giving me problems also

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20. August 2008 @ 01:50

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Originally posted by mrk44:
I finally got a TRUE and installed it....
I got some questions....Here are some pics:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9284/dsc00091va8.jpg
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/1776/dsc00090pb1.jpg

Does it look right? Is the fan clip supposed to not go in all the way and stick out a little like that?
And in the other pic, does it look flat? I wanna make sure I have complete contact...

Also, the scythe fan I got w/ it has a 3-pin connector, and the cpu fan header is 4-pin, so my only option is to plug it in to the one of the system fan header or the pwr fan header...which, I assume I'll be able to view fan speed with??

L@@KS good to me mrk44! ;)

clip is the way I have mine and the base of the cooler seems pretty "level" or "flat" to me. Only you can tell if it's that way when you installed it. If your temps are as good or better than the last cooler then your GOLDEN. :D

You should be able to use the connector on your mobo with NO issues. The little tab is made for use with a 3-pin or 4-pin connector.

...gm

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20. August 2008 @ 01:59

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Originally posted by greensman:

L@@KS good to me mrk44! ;)

clip is the way I have mine and the base of the cooler seems pretty "level" or "flat" to me. Only you can tell if it's that way when you installed it. If your temps are as good or better than the last cooler then your GOLDEN. :D

You should be able to use the connector on your mobo with NO issues. The little tab is made for use with a 3-pin or 4-pin connector.

...gm

Yay! So I should be able to plug the 3-pin connector into the 4-pin header w/ no problems as long as the tab is lined up?
Thanks for the response! Ima gonna go run this thing.

abuzar1

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20. August 2008 @ 02:03

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Yeah the three pin will work fine in the 4 pin header.

mrk44

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20. August 2008 @ 04:39

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Those are my temps in both realtemp and coretemp now that I have my TRUE installed....idle temps at 2.66 GHz....
Still high, or good enough? (I wanna OC to 3.2 GHz later)....

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20. August 2008 @ 05:54

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Looks okay from here, picture is a little blurry in the most important spot.
Those coretemps look ok to me mrk, knowing what the 9450 is like for reporting core temps. Run it on load in ORTHOS and check the real CPU temperature in addition to the coretemps, see what that achieves.

On the AV front, I've used Norton, AVG, Avast and ESET, and like ESET the most.

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20. August 2008 @ 08:22

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Originally posted by mrk44:
Has anybody here used the raptor HDD's? Are they really as loud as they say the are?

I have a pair of 74GB Raptors in Raid 0 and I can't really hear them. My 750GB Seagate Free Agent is audible so it is not loud fans that is blanking the sound of the Raptors.