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20. August 2008 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
74GB Raptors are still quieter than the 37GB, but noisier than average. Seagates, however, are noisier still, especially the slightly older ones.



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mrk44,

you can set the TJ Max to 95c in coretemp by clicking options then settings and type -10 in the Tjunction Max offset column.




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So I haven't been keeping track of new advances for the past year. I've done my research and now am considering building a new computer.

I wanted to wait to where I could upgrade to quad-core 3.2ghz, 4gb ddr2/3, and be able to play crysis on high at 1600x1200 all for $400-500 but I don't think that will be anytime soon. I think I'm' just going to bite the bullet now and upgrade.

Since I've been out of it since the nVidia 650i's were introduced, I really don't know what chipset/motherboard to get. and now that AMD's pricing is so competitive, i'm not certain which route to take at all.

So far I'm thinking:
intel e7200 (OC @3.6) or intel 2080 (oc @3.2GHz min) [$70-120]
freezer pro 7 cooler [$30]

motherboard: don't know yet, thinking about a gigabyte durable series or something with nVidia chipset so I can keep IDE hdd and have unlinked OC [about $120]

2x2gb ddr2-800 or higher [$30MIR]
8800gt (g92) 512mb [$110]
seagate 320gb hdd [already have]
case [already have]
antec 550w psu [already have]


my goals of this computer is:
intel @ 3.2GHz OC [similar performance from AMDx2/x3/x4]
2gb or 4gb ddr2 (ddr3 probably not possible with price)
Crysis on high at 1200x1000 resolution
probably sticking with XP pro, but thinking about linux, and Vista 32bit or x64

I want to spend around $400 and under for CPU/motherboard/Memory/GPU. Can anyone help me pick parts out?
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1920x1200 on high in Crysis won't happen for $400 on those parts. You're looking at an HD4870 ($240), E7200 as you said ($120), 4GB XMS2 ($90), EP45-DS3R ($140) - makes just under $600.

Be advised you won't get near 3.6Ghz out of the E7200 without a good aftermarket cooler, at least a Freezer 7 Pro, if not a tower cooler.



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I ran orthos, but it only stresses two cores? Am I using the wrong version? The only one I could find was the 2004.

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You either need to run two instances of Orthos, or get the latest Prime 95.
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Well, I ran prime95 w/ small ffts option for a few minutes, here's what I got:




If all is looks good here to you guys, I'm gonna go ahead and OC to 3.2 then...

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Yeah, that's good.
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That looks excellent to me.



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whats the difference in the p43 and p45 chipset boards?
are the P43 any good?

im looking at this one here.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128347
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cincyrob,
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whats the difference in the p43 and p45 chipset boards?
are the P43 any good?

Performance wise they are identical! The main difference is the P45 Northbridge supports a second PCI-E slot for crossfire. The P45-DS3L only has a single like the P43, but the P45-DS3R supports crossfire!

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P43 vs P45

P45 does incomplete crossfire, and P43 does no crossfire.

Also that specific P43 motherboard doesn't do RAID.

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post edited.



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Or 8x/8x Crossfire. Which ever you prefer lol.
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Haha, yeah I knew what you meant. 16x/16x or bust IMO.



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abuzar1,
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Also that specific P43 motherboard doesn't do RAID.

Just so we don't confuse Rob, the RAID has nothing to do with the P-43/P-45 Northbridge. Raid is controlled by the Southbridge!

Russ


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If the P45 has edited by ddp xfire, the P35 must have edited by ddp xfire.

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lol

That's why I don't use it on my board!
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well i dont intend on doing cross fire nor raid. so is it any better thaN the p35 boards?
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Yeah probably better than P35. Better overclocking and stuff. Not much though.

I wouldn't spend the money on it.
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i wouldnt upgrade from a P35 to it, BUT for a new build i would choose it over the P35



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I won't quote you guys but are you allowed to say things that ridicule certain sexual behavior?? :P

Rob is this for you dad or son?? I know you're not thinking about it for your own build. ;) P45, X48, X58 for a new build.... :P

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abuzar1,
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I wouldn't spend the money on it.

What a startling revelation! But would you please at least give a reason. The history isn't very long for the P43/P45, so what is your opinion based on? I mean I Googled it, and came up with very little other than it doesn't like certain memory!

Russ


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Ok smartass :p

I meant from an upgrade point of view. Since he asked about being better than P35 I would he was going to upgrade from a P35 board. The P35 boards are very good. There is no reason to upgrade from P35.
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ummm....more OCability, Xfire, more sata ports.... ETC, those are reasons to upgrade from a P35



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