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13. July 2010 @ 20:22 |
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Originally posted by warpcrash:
Well I had a water cooled pentium d 4 overclocked a full gig. But it died and well couldn't really hang on new games.
I had to get an emachine on credit cuz i was broke but now i'm about to rebuil the old one.
I'm on a limited budget of around $300
Heres what I need to rebuild or if something is close and like a refurbished system I would take it as well. Do you think I could play MW2 on this?
Here what i'm buying new.
Athlon x3 440
Asrock mobo
4 gb of dd3
1TB HD
Cost $280
Heres what I'm recycling
DVD burners ext...
radeon 4850
BFG 500 or 600 watt cant remember Power supply.
Custom painted case
So think it will game?
warpcrash,
If you could be a bit more specific, and give us some models of the motherboard, memory, power supply and hard drive, it would help us have an idea of what you have in mind, and give us a better chance of helping you.
Best Regards,
Russ
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13. July 2010 @ 20:37 |
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well by game i mean playing @ 1600 x 900 max setting 60 fps
NEW STUFF:
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AMD Athlon II X3 440 Rana 3.0GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX440WFGIBOX
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ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD 770, AOD ACC support, 4x DDR3 1600, EuP Ready
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GeIL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10660) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model GV34GB1333C9DC
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Seagate Barracuda LP ST31000520AS 1TB 5900 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive
OLD STUFF:
VIDEO: RADEON 4850 512MB
POWERSUPPLY: BFG Brand 600 WATTS not sure on model
SPEAKERS: KLIPSCH 5.1 PROMEDIA
16x DVD BURNER
HP VOODOO DNA MOUSE
GENERIC KEYBOARD
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13. July 2010 @ 21:51 |
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Originally posted by warpcrash:
Well I had a water cooled pentium d 4 overclocked a full gig. But it died and well couldn't really hang on new games.
I had to get an emachine on credit cuz i was broke but now i'm about to rebuil the old one.
I'm on a limited budget of around $300
Heres what I need to rebuild or if something is close and like a refurbished system I would take it as well. Do you think I could play MW2 on this?
Here what i'm buying new.
Athlon x3 440
Asrock mobo
4 gb of dd3
1TB HD
Cost $280
Heres what I'm recycling
DVD burners ext...
radeon 4850
BFG 500 or 600 watt cant remember Power supply.
Custom painted case
So think it will game?
warpcrash,
It should do reasonably well.
A couple of things you might consider first though.
Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138167
Even thought it has On Board Graphics, when you turn them off, they are completely off. It's just a higher quality MB than the Asrock, with a much better chipset for only $5 more.
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103652
As far as the CPU goes, I would worry less about the fancy paint job and spend the extra money on a Phenom IIx3 720BE. A much better gaming chip, with 6MB of L3 cache, in addition to the 3x512 L2. That 6MB of L3 cache makes a huge difference in gaming performance. I believe that it's been discontinued in favor of the newer 45nm chips, so when they are gone, they are gone for good. Far superior to the Rana 440 x3, and it's a black edition with an unlocked multiplier, too. The only down side is it's an OEM chip, so it doesn't have a great warranty. I've bought plenty of them and never had a problem.
All of this is dependent on if you can swing the price or not. If you can't I would still get the BioStar MB for the Rana 440x3. The Asrock has a Via chipset, and they are slow!
Best Regards,
Russ
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13. July 2010 @ 22:38 |
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interesting cpu didn't know they had 3 core phenoms...
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14. July 2010 @ 03:03 |
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The Asrock board is poor, avoid that. I also agree on the CPU to a 720. That way, you're actually getting a proper upgrade.
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14. July 2010 @ 20:18 |
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14. July 2010 @ 22:55 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
On the Memory.I would run these instead they have a much tighter Cas Latency if your not planning to Overclock plus they have heat shields also plus the Reviews are better and more of that tose Geil:)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231276
Will,
And I'm the one who's supposed to be getting senile. LOL!! What's that Titanium looking stuff on that Geil memory???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...=GV34GB1333C9DC
It's also $20 more for the Ripjaws, and he's on a tight budget. Memory you can upgrade anytime. The money is much better spent on the Phenom IIx3 720BE, and changing to the Biostar MB is a no brainer. Nobody who games, wants a Via chipped motherboard! Besides, when the 720BE is gone, there won't be anymore, and it stands head and shoulders above the x2 440 Rana as a gamer!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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15. July 2010 @ 07:26 |
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Well i got good news for me i won a couple thousand in an online poker tournament so i'm doubling my budget to around $600
New egg is having a nice looking combo deal on the new 6 core amd and it's only 20 more bucks than the x4 965 by itself anyway . i know it has 600mhz less clock speed per core but should i invest in it now and think about the future? or stick with the x4 965?
Here is the deal i'm talking about i will likely need a new video card to optimize performance...
Phenom II X6 CrossFire Technology Starter kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundl...-432236-_-Combo
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Even if the combo deal is awesome, I wouldn't go with that one. A 785G board will likely not have good enough power regulation for a Phenom II X6(at least not long term). Not only that but it comes with an ASUS board, and while they used to be good, ASUS's quality has dropped severely in the last few years. So sure it will work but I doubt for very long...
The other components in that combo are decent quality though a scratch build is almost always the better way to go. Just FYI, a 6 core CPU will NEVER affect gaming framerates with a single card. Very few games make full use of quads and most that do are coded for 4 cores maximum. Not only that but even with a quad core, you are more likely to have a video card bottleneck unless running a similar setup to my own, and my CPU is overclocked. I'd say get a lower clocked Phenom II X4 like the 955, a Gigabyte 785G board or similar, and for guaranteed quality and stability, a Corsair PSU. Of course these aren't the only quality choices, but these parts I will vouch for personally.
Especially if you are unsure of what to get, a Gigabyte motherboard should be the first thing on your list. They have guaranteed quality and stability, are well featured, and are very easy to setup and use if you are doing your first scratch build. Most others here will agree with me. I can also vouch for DFI, but they are more geared towards advanced users as they have nearly endless OCing and tweaking options.
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15. July 2010 @ 14:30 |
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Dang all i used to buy was ASUS mobos and video cards and they all made overclocking easy but it has been about 4 or 5 years thanks for the tip.
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15. July 2010 @ 15:03 |
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Well here's what I got so far and still recycling the 4850....
and i know the cooler is bit a pricey but you do get a $10 tube of free artic silver
I do wish to crossfire and this mother board does support 2 by x16 CF from what i can tell but is it over kill? and what 4gb dual channel ddr3 kit would be good?
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower
HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.C HDS721010CLA332 (0F10383) 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
BIOSTAR TA890FXE AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor
Scythe SCKTN-3000 92mm Sleeve "KATANA3" 3Heat Pipes CPU Cooler
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound
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15. July 2010 @ 17:35 |
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Originally posted by warpcrash:
Well here's what I got so far and still recycling the 4850....
and i know the cooler is bit a pricey but you do get a $10 tube of free artic silver
I do wish to crossfire and this mother board does support 2 by x16 CF from what i can tell but is it over kill? and what 4gb dual channel ddr3 kit would be good?
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower
HITACHI Deskstar 7K1000.C HDS721010CLA332 (0F10383) 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
BIOSTAR TA890FXE AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W Quad-Core Processor
Scythe SCKTN-3000 92mm Sleeve "KATANA3" 3Heat Pipes CPU Cooler
ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound
warpcrash,
You would be better off with a freezer 64, for your cooling.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185125
The design of the Scythe is poor. Single cantilevered coolers are prone to leaks because of all the weight being on one side of the pipes, due to vibration. It also comes up very short when it comes to cooling the Northbridge, as it only directs air to the rear and nothing to the side. I had no problem running my 955BE at 3.8GHz with mine. Temps in the 30-32C range at idle, and 47C full load. Comes with the correct amount of MX-2 pre-applied as well. I haven't used Arctic Silver since MX-2 came out!
The BioStar TA890FXE is a great motherboard! Unfortunately it has a very serious design flaw to it for anyone wanting to use Crossfire. The PCIE slots are far too close together. It's a shame really, because the board is very good. You might want to consider this GigaByte instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128416
Best Regards,
Russ
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15. July 2010 @ 17:41 |
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I agree. The Cooler is very good, provided the case is good. Your 922 should be more than sufficient ;) And the gigabyte board is incredible. I can vouch for that :D Don't buy any 16Gb kingston flash drives though :p
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
Well Russ you can't complain about these here Kingston is a good brand. i don't see used often by many people.I still have my 2x1 1066 sticks hypers and there working well and don't get real warm either:)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104129
by the way these are the ones. I got running on the P35-DS3R 2.0 with the E6750 Great sticks...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134218
Will,
I wasn't complaining, I was teasing you about missing the Heat Sinks on the GeIL. That and he was on a very limited budget at the time, and $20 would have gotten him that much closer to being able to get the Phenom IIx3 720BE while it was still available. It's a far better gamer than the Rana 440xII at any speed.
The GSkill is fine, I had a pair of them at one time, but I sold them to get the Corsair Dominators. Same specs, but lower voltage. They also run nice and cool!
Before you ask, I wasn't casting any dispersions on the BioStar TA890FXE . It's just unfortunate that the guy responsible for the motherboard layout must have fallen and hit his head that day. The spacing on the PCI-e slots is ridiculously close. There's simply not enough space between them. Not for any serious video cards, anyway. It's a shame really, as it's quite a good motherboard.
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I'll swear by kingston Ram! Kingston Ram has never wronged me. I've bought it since 2003, since I heard it was some of the best of the best ;) Shortly after that, I heard that Crucial Ram was extremely good Ram. They've never wronged me either. But I stopped buying them, because people were suggesting they may be less than great. Since then, I've been pretty hooked on Gskill. Gskill hasn't wronged me yet!
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I'll swear by kingston Ram! Kingston Ram has never wronged me. I've bought it since 2003, since I heard it was some of the best of the best ;) Shortly after that, I heard that Crucial Ram was extremely good Ram. They've never wronged me either. But I stopped buying them, because people were suggesting they may be less than great. Since then, I've been pretty hooked on Gskill. Gskill hasn't wronged me yet!
Omaan7,
I quite agree! I never had any problems with GSkill. I used Corsair for a number of years, then switched to GSkill, but when the Dominators with their rather large heatsinks dropped in price so much, I bought a pair. They run much cooler than the GSkill's did, if you have the room! When I could get the 1066 5-5-5-15 for $44 with the MIR (which I received), I bought 2x2GB ones for this build. Very happy with my choice.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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16. July 2010 @ 00:41 |
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Yeah I can agree on G.Skill. Most of my friends use it as it happens to be the cheapest brand usually. Never seen a failed stick out of 20-some odd kits including high voltage DDR-2 ie 2v+.
I can also attest to the quality of Mushkin. Never done me wrong over 5 or 6 odd kits I've personally used. Too bad they don't make any real mid range kits anymore. Only high performance enthusiast kits. Particularly their XP(eXtreme Performance ie what I currently use) and Redline kits are very expensive :S
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16. July 2010 @ 02:15 |
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Ahhh yes. Mushkin. I have an 8Gb (4 X 2Gb) kit in my secondary system. Other than being expensive, very good ram. I would definitely buy Mushkin again. But I have noticed that you pay at least a little more for their Ram ;) Can't wait to get 8Gb in my primary rig. I use it. In fact, I can think of ways to use 16Gb :p
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16. July 2010 @ 02:47 |
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Well, this being a primarily gaming rig and my secondary PC being mainly a storage box and light gaming, I have never needed more than 4GB of RAM. I assume I'll be sticking to 4GB until a game comes out to justify it. I haven't noticed a difference on 8GB equipped rigs, even with heavy mutlitasking. Photo and video editting on the other hand, I can see the uses very clearly :P
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16. July 2010 @ 15:08 |
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Does anyone know how to set custom resolutions with Rivetuner 2.24. I want my new HD4670 in my phenom II rig, but it won't give me the 1680x1050 resolution of my monitor. It's not just the HD4670, it's any Ati card. I just love it! Sceptre blames Ati, and Ati blames Sceptre. It's a Mexican standoff! LOL!!
I've googled the problem, and there are 2,220,000 results. Isn't it nice to know I'm not alone!
Russ
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16. July 2010 @ 15:27 |
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You can supposedly set custom resolutions with something called powerstrip as well. Unfortunately, My brothers Nvidia card isn't supported by the software, So I can't use it...
I'm afraid I've never tried it with Riva tuner. I may just have to now ;)
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16. July 2010 @ 15:29 |
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doesnt catalst give u the option?
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16. July 2010 @ 15:48 |
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I blame Sceptre to be honest. That's not needless protectivism, it's the monitor manufacturer's job to ensure compatibility with graphics cards, not the graphics manufacturer's responsibility to ensure compatibility with monitors. With two brands of card out there versus hundreds of monitor brands, it's not difficult for a monitor brand to get compatibility with both ATI and nvidia. Everybody else manages it.
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16. July 2010 @ 15:54 |
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it could be eithers fault really. how would monitors that came out well before the graphics card be at fault. if nvidia can manage it why not ati?
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