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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I guess it's simply a good guideline to shut the the system down ;) Plus his blown channel was IDE. IDE probably doesn't like that LOL!
LOL yeah IDE vs SATA does make a difference, IDE was not built for that. I often use the ports on the ESATA bracket (not the onboard on back panel) that comes with many newer Gigabyte boards and since the bracket plugs direct to the mobo and is swappable I figured there was an issue there somewhere
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
And PLEASE don't do it while the Mobo is running. You can wreak havoc on the Southbridge and channel doing that. My brother made that mistake on one of his Dell boards. It fried one of the IDE channels :(
I do that all the time with hdds, is that problem only with ODs?
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Oman7,
I know the suggestion was made to me where I would unplug and plug in the monitor while the power is on. Ain't happening, at least not by me!
Russ
I do that all the time too lol. Never had a problem, maybe I'm just lucky.
Red_Maw,
"I do that all the time"! Those are the 6 most dangerous words, in Computer Lore! They are usually followed by, "Watch, I'll show you", which is equally dangerous! 3 times now I've heard those 10 words. 3 times now I've seen a puff of brownish grey smoke and the wonderful smell of rotten eggs! Oh, there was no video! All three roached their video cards! That's where the smoke came from. First time was at Fry's in Anaheim, the second was at Netseller in Riverside, and the third was a good friend's son, who immediately blew his father's very high end 2003 AGP 8x video card! I think it's part of Murphy's law! The part where "anything that Can happen", "Will happen"!
I had this old HP Mini-Tower that had a 150w PSU. Hundreds of times I've plugged or unplugged fans while the computer was running, without any problems. This HP, was different. I plugged in the rear fan and got a beautiful flash of purple, highlighted by lightning, with dark clouds overhead, that you could see through the ventilation slots in the PSU! Stick around computers long enough, and you'll get to see just about any strange electronic thing you can think of, happen!
When I first started this build, some 15-16 months ago, I had a Gigabyte MA785G-UD3H motherboard. About the same time there were problems with the 710 SouthBridge, that nobody knew about. I was the first of many who would have the same problem. I can't tell you how many brand new Optical drives I sent back to Newegg! How I finally figured out that the problem was the SouthBridge was I could go up one step on the SB Voltage, and it would work for 2 or 3 days before it fouled up. Then you would have to raise the voltage to the next level (+.025v) to get it to work again. I RMA'd it to newegg, only to find out that it had been discontinued, and they would give me a full refund for it. I had to buy the 790X-UD4P. 3 days after I received it, the 785G-UD3H was back in stock at Newegg! It hadn't been discontinued! I wasn't happy about that, but I did have one of the best motherboards available. As it turned out, the 750 SB Chip, had some quality issues too that didn't rear their head until after the 30 day return policy had expired. GigaByte replaced it, and the replacement went bad too! 750 SB again! GigaByte didn't want to replace it again, believing the problem was my components. I went back to Newegg, and looked up the improvements in their reviews over the last couple of weeks, and saw a sharp increase in happy customers for the 790X. I called them and I would not take no for an answer. I said I want a RMA for my motherboard that came from GigaByte, and that GigaByte would give them credit for their board. I told him all I want is one of the new boards you just got in, as they don't have the 750 SB problem. He got a little ass'y with me at that point insisting I was trying to get a free motherboard out of Newegg, and he wanted to know why they should do that? I just told him that I wasn't interested it getting someone fired, but the Girl did tell me that my motherboard had been discontinued and no longer available, only to have it appear in your ads 3 days after I received the 790X. Had she not said that I would have gotten one of the 785G boards without the faulty 710, and wouldn't have had all the problems, or had to spend more money for a better motherboard, that turned out to have the same faulty SB problem as the 710. My luck that I would get two different SB chips that were both faulty, in two different motherboard series! Anyway, I told him that I wanted to speak to his Boss, and he informed me that he was the Supervisor. I told him I didn't care, that He had a Boss, and I wanted to speak with him! He fiddled around with the intercom trying to locate his boss, and then excused himself for a few minutes. Next thing I hear is his Boss breathing flames up his tailpipe! The Intercom hadn't been fully hung up, so I heard every word. His Boss basically told him that I've spent over $20,000 a year for the last 3 years with Newegg, Gigabyte has requested we do it, and they would take care of the RMA, so to just give me whatever the hell it is, I want! He comes back to his desk and starts to tell me that after consultation with his boss, they are making a one time exception! I stopped him right there, and told him I had heard every word over the open intercom! Blew his Ego all to Hell! I got my present motherboard! Everything is working perfect. I've got it giving me about 97% of the performance it gave me at 3.9GHz, at 3.8GHz, by trying different things with some of the lesser know adjustments in the bios setup. It runs so smooth now! DVDRB/CCE now runs a couple of minutes faster, as well. Both the NB Frequency and the HT Link frequency are set to 2400MHz. Runs great!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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IDE vs SATA makes a big difference. S-ATA is hot swappable. IDE is not. This also applies to the power connectors. Try and hot swap a molex and you can cause all kinds of badness.
Sounds like, albeit to a lesser extent, I'm not the only one that has to play hard but fair with retailers :S
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Originally posted by sammorris:
IDE vs SATA makes a big difference. S-ATA is hot swappable. IDE is not. This also applies to the power connectors. Try and hot swap a molex and you can cause all kinds of badness.
Sounds like, albeit to a lesser extent, I'm not the only one that has to play hard but fair with retailers :S
I know I asked the Supervisor if he though it was fair that I was the one eating all the expense, and the aggravation, considering that it was one of his people who put me in that position in the first place, by giving out information she wasn't supposed to give out, and then getting it all wrong! Had I waited just a few days more, I could have exchanged the broken motherboard for a known good one, and been done with the build. Here I am now, 15 months later, with everything finally working like it's supposed to, and I've already been through two successful CPU upgrades! The two DRW-24B1ST Asus DVD burners are closely matched, and perform almost identically! Many burns since they were new. Both are very quiet drives, and a little faster than the ihas-124s they replaced.
I'm mostly glad that I didn't just lose it, when so much went wrong. I guess I looked at it like a challenge, and a Learning experience being that it was my own personal first AMD, and I knew pretty much nothing about them or how to overclock them. I've learned a great deal about how they work, and how to make them work better, so it's all paid off, in the end. I'm 100% happy with the performance. For my needs, it's perfect! It's the Best computer I ever owned!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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and the irony is, since I'm still running my Q9550 from my tests of the dud 4GB 5970s, your PC CPU is as fast as mine, until I swap the i5 back. The 9550's only at 3400 at the moment, it can go higher, but the X48 chipset's overclocking performance is dramatically diminished by running 4 GPUs off the PCIe controller, and running stable beyond about 3.65-3.7 is difficult, so I couldn't be bothered. 3.4 is a comfortable low-heat high-stability setting, so it will do just fine :D I'm also using identical RAM at an identical config :P
My eventual plan is to stick the Q9550 as is into my NZXT midi case for a lightweight LAN system. It's already got a good 430W PSU and a spare (blank) HDD I can use, a WD5000AAKS. I just need a graphics card to stick in it. I was contemplating moving the HD4830 from my server and sticking an HD4670 in the server instead, since the 4830's only in there for DXVA purposes, but I think I'll want a little more grunt, even if I do only end up using the 1680x1050 screen (unlikely, since I should be buying a geargrip for my 30" dell for Multiplay) so I was eyeing up what can be purchased in the midrange sector. Looking at possibly an HD5770, but it ought to keep with the ultra-low noise level of the current system, so I may have to pursue different cooler options.
On a more AMD-related note:
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=961
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23. July 2010 @ 00:14 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by omegaman7:
And PLEASE don't do it while the Mobo is running. You can wreak havoc on the Southbridge and channel doing that. My brother made that mistake on one of his Dell boards. It fried one of the IDE channels :(
I do that all the time with hdds, is that problem only with ODs?
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Oman7,
I know the suggestion was made to me where I would unplug and plug in the monitor while the power is on. Ain't happening, at least not by me!
Russ
I do that all the time too lol. Never had a problem, maybe I'm just lucky.
Red_Maw,
"I do that all the time"! Those are the 6 most dangerous words, in Computer Lore! They are usually followed by, "Watch, I'll show you", which is equally dangerous! 3 times now I've heard those 10 words. 3 times now I've seen a puff of brownish grey smoke and the wonderful smell of rotten eggs! Oh, there was no video! All three roached their video cards! That's where the smoke came from. First time was at Fry's in Anaheim, the second was at Netseller in Riverside, and the third was a good friend's son, who immediately blew his father's very high end 2003 AGP 8x video card! I think it's part of Murphy's law! The part where "anything that Can happen", "Will happen"!
I had this old HP Mini-Tower that had a 150w PSU. Hundreds of times I've plugged or unplugged fans while the computer was running, without any problems. This HP, was different. I plugged in the rear fan and got a beautiful flash of purple, highlighted by lightning, with dark clouds overhead, that you could see through the ventilation slots in the PSU! Stick around computers long enough, and you'll get to see just about any strange electronic thing you can think of, happen!
When I first started this build, some 15-16 months ago, I had a Gigabyte MA785G-UD3H motherboard. About the same time there were problems with the 710 SouthBridge, that nobody knew about. I was the first of many who would have the same problem. I can't tell you how many brand new Optical drives I sent back to Newegg! How I finally figured out that the problem was the SouthBridge was I could go up one step on the SB Voltage, and it would work for 2 or 3 days before it fouled up. Then you would have to raise the voltage to the next level (+.025v) to get it to work again. I RMA'd it to newegg, only to find out that it had been discontinued, and they would give me a full refund for it. I had to buy the 790X-UD4P. 3 days after I received it, the 785G-UD3H was back in stock at Newegg! It hadn't been discontinued! I wasn't happy about that, but I did have one of the best motherboards available. As it turned out, the 750 SB Chip, had some quality issues too that didn't rear their head until after the 30 day return policy had expired. GigaByte replaced it, and the replacement went bad too! 750 SB again! GigaByte didn't want to replace it again, believing the problem was my components. I went back to Newegg, and looked up the improvements in their reviews over the last couple of weeks, and saw a sharp increase in happy customers for the 790X. I called them and I would not take no for an answer. I said I want a RMA for my motherboard that came from GigaByte, and that GigaByte would give them credit for their board. I told him all I want is one of the new boards you just got in, as they don't have the 750 SB problem. He got a little ass'y with me at that point insisting I was trying to get a free motherboard out of Newegg, and he wanted to know why they should do that? I just told him that I wasn't interested it getting someone fired, but the Girl did tell me that my motherboard had been discontinued and no longer available, only to have it appear in your ads 3 days after I received the 790X. Had she not said that I would have gotten one of the 785G boards without the faulty 710, and wouldn't have had all the problems, or had to spend more money for a better motherboard, that turned out to have the same faulty SB problem as the 710. My luck that I would get two different SB chips that were both faulty, in two different motherboard series! Anyway, I told him that I wanted to speak to his Boss, and he informed me that he was the Supervisor. I told him I didn't care, that He had a Boss, and I wanted to speak with him! He fiddled around with the intercom trying to locate his boss, and then excused himself for a few minutes. Next thing I hear is his Boss breathing flames up his tailpipe! The Intercom hadn't been fully hung up, so I heard every word. His Boss basically told him that I've spent over $20,000 a year for the last 3 years with Newegg, Gigabyte has requested we do it, and they would take care of the RMA, so to just give me whatever the hell it is, I want! He comes back to his desk and starts to tell me that after consultation with his boss, they are making a one time exception! I stopped him right there, and told him I had heard every word over the open intercom! Blew his Ego all to Hell! I got my present motherboard! Everything is working perfect. I've got it giving me about 97% of the performance it gave me at 3.9GHz, at 3.8GHz, by trying different things with some of the lesser know adjustments in the bios setup. It runs so smooth now! DVDRB/CCE now runs a couple of minutes faster, as well. Both the NB Frequency and the HT Link frequency are set to 2400MHz. Runs great!
Russ
Now you've heard it five times, except there's not puffs of smoke XD
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I'm trying to help some one get their ram working properly on their new build but I'm not familiar with amd at all. Is all you need to do is adjust the multiplier and voltage or am I missing some extra step?
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Which board, Which CPU, Which Ram?
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The system is a 1090T, the aforementioned ram and some MSI mb. It seems they figured it out though, the ram just won't do the advertised timings now (it's ocz so I'm not entirely surprised). Thanks anyway oman.
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surely :) I try and help when I can ;)
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The problem was the ram wouldn't post with the ram set at the advertised timings and speed. It's being replaced with some G.skill XD
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One of those G.skill sets is the same one I suggested they get, but I think they're going to get some PC31440 stuff instead.
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
Originally posted by Red_Maw:
The problem was the ram wouldn't post with the ram set at the advertised timings and speed. It's being replaced with some G.skill XD
one of these should be fine nothing less than ddr3 1600 for a good oc
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...5E20-231-303-TS
about pull my G.Skill's out my AMD Rig and put some Kingston HyperX's in instead much better NS speed...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104129
hyper's run in the between 45 to 47 alittle faster
Bigwill,
Your CPU frequency is 100MHz higher than mine. Your DDR3 8-8-8-21 vs my DDR2 5-5-5-15, are both at 1072MHz. My DDR2 eats those GSkills alive in Latency, Memory performance, L3 Cache performance, and L3 Cache latency. They are close enough to the Hyperx latency that I won't be hurrying to the store to buy DDR3 and a new motherboard anytime in the near future! LOL!!
If I was doing the same build today, I'm not so sure I still wouldn't go with DDR2. Then again I might at this time opt for the 790XT and DDR3. Since there still isn't much that utilizes Sata6 or USB3, I just don't see that much of an advantage, especially since I have a great motherboard to begin with. If I was buying everything new, I'd have to think seriously about it though.
Russ
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I'm looking to build the most inexpensive print server/ web browsing PC possible. I'm thinking AMD because I don't need an i7 or i5 to do this. Anyone have any recommendations on CPU+mobo combo with a mobo that would be fairly up to date on features for under $100 and average CPU that fits? I prefer Gigabyte and have been looking at the 770, 780, 785NB boards and haven't focused on CPU yet. Any ideas? Thanks all.
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
I'm looking to build the most inexpensive print server/ web browsing PC possible. I'm thinking AMD because I don't need an i7 or i5 to do this. Anyone have any recommendations on CPU+mobo combo with a mobo that would be fairly up to date on features for under $100 and average CPU that fits? I prefer Gigabyte and have been looking at the 770, 780, 785NB boards and haven't focused on CPU yet. Any ideas? Thanks all.
Deadrum33,
I would recommend one of these, then.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...pk=ma785gm-us2h
It can handle any modern AMD CPU, from AM2 through AM2+ and AM3. It's about as good as it gets in the Bang for the Buck category. 785G NB, 710 SB. 5 internal Sata 3.0 ports, and one eSata on the rear. HD 4200 Graphics, with HDMI, DVI and VGA.
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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Your CPU frequency is 100MHz higher than mine. Your DDR3 8-8-8-21 vs my DDR2 5-5-5-15, are both at 1072MHz. My DDR2 eats those GSkills alive in Latency, Memory performance, L3 Cache performance, and L3 Cache latency. They are close enough to the Hyperx latency that I won't be hurrying to the store to buy DDR3 and a new motherboard anytime in the near future! LOL!!
Yea. I brought some crappy sticks to find out in the end here. I should have got some DDR3 1600mhz instead, 1333mhz are not so good when it comes to alittle Oc'ing.I heard.I can't get these jokers to oc even to 1342 and that's 9mhz over 1333 stock and that loosening up the timing alittle 9-9-9-21 1T. I've have some new sticks in a few weeks anyway so'I'll run these at 1066 for now(junkie sticks) Kingston HyperX's are the best in the 1600mhz DDR3's sticks anyway come to find out in the nano seconds,read,right & copy it's the fastest on all scores..here's a video maybe old one but none the less it's a facted...
Kingston Video ddr3 1600mhz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H4uyNZ_f5Y
here they are at newegg (out of stock)at the moment.I got auto notify button pushed and. i will know when there back in stock...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...4-129-_-Product
yea you got me beat Russ. i get back to you with Hyper's come in.Lol:)
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
Originally posted by Red_Maw:
One of those G.skill sets is the same one I suggested they get, but I think they're going to get some PC1440 stuff instead.
I guess your saying one of these?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...5E20-231-367-TS
Yeah.
Russ,
In my opinion DDR3 is only worth the extra cost if you get the higher speed stuff. If it's going to be 1333Mhz, or worse, lower, DDR2 is generally a better value and can often perform better (as you know). All said and done though a good set of 1600Mhz DDR3 stomps all over DDR2 ;p
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a good set of 1600Mhz DDR3 stomps all over DDR2 ;p
Now this is True:)
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Bigwill,
Your CPU frequency is 100MHz higher than mine. Your DDR3 8-8-8-21 vs my DDR2 5-5-5-15, are both at 1072MHz. My DDR2 eats those GSkills alive in Latency, Memory performance, L3 Cache performance, and L3 Cache latency. They are close enough to the Hyperx latency that I won't be hurrying to the store to buy DDR3 and a new motherboard anytime in the near future! LOL!!
Yea. I brought some crappy sticks to find out in the end here. I should have got some DDR3 1600mhz instead, 1333mhz are not so good when it comes to alittle Oc'ing.I heard.I can't get these jokers to oc even to 1342 and that's 9mhz over 1333 stock and that loosening up the timing alittle 9-9-9-21 1T. I've have some new sticks in a few weeks anyway so'I'll run these at 1066 for now(junkie sticks) Kingston HyperX's are the best in the 1600mhz DDR3's sticks anyway come to find out in the nano seconds,read,right & copy it's the fastest on all scores..here's a video maybe old one but none the less it's a facted...
Kingston Video ddr3 1600mhz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H4uyNZ_f5Y
here they are at newegg (out of stock)at the moment.I got auto notify button pushed and. i will know when there back in stock...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...4-129-_-Product
yea you got me beat Russ. i get back to you with Hyper's come in.Lol:)
Bigwill,
I see that test as somewhat skewed, as they are implying that it would be even faster using 2x2MB. Show us the tests with the proper size memory, if they are going to make that claim! As far as the performance goes, mine takes a -485MB/s hit in read speed, but the HyperX takes a hit of -595MB/s in the write test. With the Copy test I'm -163MB/s, virtually dead even, but the latency is only .7ns slower, 48.6ns vs 47.9ms. Mind you, this is DDR3 vs DDR2, 1600MHz vs 1066MHz. It may be worth it some day when the latencies are reduced to affordable Cas 6 or 7, but Cas 9 is not going to have me yearning for a 790TX motherboard and DDR3. LOL!!
Benchmarks are wonderful things, but their accuracy and meaning in the real world, leaves a lot to be desired. I lose about 1200 MIPS overall, using the ACC, but gain a minimum of 2 minutes off of virtually every video encode with DVDRB/CCE. Most run under 25 minutes for the whole DVDRB/CCE, 2 pass process, with some taking less than 20 minutes! So much for benchmarks!
Another thing I want to bring up is the required video for playing DVDs. I've installed the 7300GS I got from you, in place of my 9500GT, which is quite a come-down for me. I can adjust the Brightness, Contrast, Hue and Saturation until it all looks beautiful, but it lacks the Life like picture quality of the HD graphics using the 9500GT. It just doesn't have the same visual punch it has with the 9500GT!
Best Regards,
Russ
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Deadrum33,
I would recommend one of these, then.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...pk=ma785gm-us2h
It can handle any modern AMD CPU, from AM2 through AM2+ and AM3. It's about as good as it gets in the Bang for the Buck category. 785G NB, 710 SB. 5 internal Sata 3.0 ports, and one eSata on the rear. HD 4200 Graphics, with HDMI, DVI and VGA.
Best Regards,
Russ
I've eyeballed that, especially liking the micro aspect for a machine I want to hide inside some office furniture.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking buying AM3 for a board that only supports ddr2 is overkill...just trying to narrow my search for CPU, agreeing the board RUSS linked is good enough a the right price
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Originally posted by Deadrum33:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Deadrum33,
I would recommend one of these, then.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...pk=ma785gm-us2h
It can handle any modern AMD CPU, from AM2 through AM2+ and AM3. It's about as good as it gets in the Bang for the Buck category. 785G NB, 710 SB. 5 internal Sata 3.0 ports, and one eSata on the rear. HD 4200 Graphics, with HDMI, DVI and VGA.
Best Regards,
Russ
I've eyeballed that, especially liking the micro aspect for a machine I want to hide inside some office furniture.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking buying AM3 for a board that only supports ddr2 is overkill...just trying to narrow my search for CPU, agreeing the board RUSS linked is good enough a the right price
Deadrum33,
I just finished a build for a friend in Massachusetts, a 7850 2.8GHz Kuma on that same board. It's going to UPS on Monday! The real beauty of the board is it's ability to use socket AM2, AM2+, and AM3. The heft of the board will surprise you! At present, given the cost of Cas 6&7 DDR3, it's not yet worth the expense of going DDR3 all the way, since the 790TX/DDR3 barely beats out the 790X/DDR2, at the same memory speed! L3 Cache performance is much better with DDR2, at a much lower latency! See my posts to Bigwill, above!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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