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Originally posted by sammorris:
Aside from the fact that there are 237,000 results for that search, not many million, read some of those results. A large number of them are issues with Linux monitor support, and ATI's native linux software was, until recently, useless.
Several of them are automatically generated pages that take your search term, write it at the top and display another page that's probably not relevant.
Another issue is of course that 1680x1050 is only an officially supported resolution in DVI spec, not VGA spec. If Scpetre monitors specifically use some sort of VGA standard info instead of DVI, that may cause some confusion in the drivers. Almost all of these monitors are encountering the issue using VGA, and when they switch to DVI the problem disappears.
The rest of them are simply cases where they haven't got a graphics driver installed at all (A feather in Windows Vista/7's cap as they allow a graphics card to be fully utilised without a driver installed, correct resolution, DVD playback, games et. al)
Refusing to buy an ATI card because you bought a monitor from a sub-par brand is a strange way of going about things, but I'm pretty confident if you took a step out of the dark ages and installed Windows 7, you wouldn't have the issue.
Maw: The answer is no, unless they routinely use an application that can use 6 cores, and won't be overclocking. Outside this scenario, the X6 CPUs have little use.
Sam,
Check again. Here's a copy from the link I gave you! "About 2,180,000 results (0.41 seconds)". Maybe the new math is different, but when I went to school, that number reads 2 million, 180 thousand results. I'm not claiming that all those links are for modern video cards, but a good number of them are, with almost all of them being problems with Ati video cards delivering 1680x1050 resolution, or rather not delivering it! nVidia cards will generally install themselves in XP. Most Ati cards will not! nVidia cards all seem to work just fine with my monitor, while almost all Ati's won't, so I can't understand why you blame the monitor.
I don't know anything about a sub-par brand, as all the reviews I've ever read for this particular model, and Sceptre monitors in general were very favorable. They are also still in business, and you can't do that without sales. There are others here at AD that have the same monitor, and they agree with my assessment of it, that's it's a great monitor, and a step up from TN panel monitors. I know this for a fact as they PM'd me to let me know they agreed with my assessment of it, back when we went through this same discussion some years ago.
The "Dark Ages", as you so nicely put it have nothing to do with anything! I've tried Win 7 a couple of times, and I don't like it, as there's far to much "Kid mentality" to it, too much "Bling". I don't want "Bells and Whistles", I want something that's simple and intuitive to use! So far Win 7 has not shown me that! Win 7 does not cure the monitor problem either. I've tried computers running win 7 that have Ati cards in them, and it does the same thing. While Win 7 may be great for games, it offers little improvement in speed for most applications. I'm 66, with the prospect of living maybe another year or so, and I have no intention of spending my time in having to learn another operating system, especially one as bloated as Win 7 is! Just a week ago or so ago someone sent me an email complaining about all the differences there are between XP and Win7, and how difficult it is to figure out how to do certain things that were so simple to do with XP. The Help file is useless, so you spend more time googling for answers than you would ever save in the supposed speed advantage! XP support from Micro$oft ends in April of 2014, and I'll be long gone by then, so XP will be my last operating system!
Someone suggested to me that I give Win 7 Basic a try, as it has less Bells and Whistles. I'm going to do just that, but this time I'll remove the boot drive first, and put it away so I don't have to start all over again if I don't like it.
Oh, while I'm not disagreeing with your answer to Red_Maw. I would also like to point out that the same drawbacks you mention would also apply to the Intel 6 cores, as well. At 1/3 of the price of the i7 970, and the i7 980X costing $100 more than the 970, I would love to have a 1090T for $295 for mine. I do a lot of Video Encoding with DVDRB/CCE, and two extra cores would reduce my encoding time by a lot. A simple bios flash, and drop one in my motherboard, and I will be good to go! It would also be the 4th CPU installed on my current platform! So far I haven't seen enough difference in performance between mine and the AM3/DDR3 boards to justify the investment in a new motherboard and DDR3. So far the lack of Sata 6.0Gb/s drives, and hardly anything that uses USB 3, seems to make having them a non-issue as well. Maybe next time!
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When run through google it reads 237,000 results. UK-based searches presumably yield different results. Either way, not one of the links I read (of over a dozen) contains a problem that wasn't solved with changing from VGA to DVI or properly installing graphics drivers.
Sceptre only sell to the US market, which is a warning sign right there. Secondly, the reviews for some of their other monitors are terrible, among the worst I have ever seen.
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nVidia cards all seem to work just fine with my monitor, while almost all Ati's won't, so I can't understand why you blame the monitor.
ATI cards also work fine with all other monitors, so I can't see why you blame the graphics card. It works both ways round Russ.
Windows 7 is simple and intuitive to use. If you don't like the 'bling', turn it off! Windows 7 comes with everything needed to make it look almost identical to Windows 98.
You have presumably installed Catalyst on windows 7. The reason I suggested 7 is such that you can just not install the driver, and use the windows default one, and ability that XP does not have.
If you know how to use google, anything you can't figure out how to do in win7 you can learn in 30 seconds, it's not difficult. The OS is, in my opinion, easy to use, and took me about a month to learn. Unless you think that's as long as you've got left, I still strongly recommend you try it. Basic is probably best avoided, however, as it will come with all of the stuff you don't want still, but be missing some of the stuff you will.
I didn't say the drawbacks didn't apply to Intel's 6-cores. They're horribly overpriced, because they're extreme edition CPUs. Fact is though, the X6 CPUs are so slow that the 4-core i5s and i7s can keep up, so there's no real need for them to sell low-end 6 core CPUs as of yet. They probably will eventually.
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Originally posted by sammorris:
not directly calling Russ anything, but except for very rare program circumstances I really don't see why anyone needs to stick with XP any more, save for being unable to buy a copy of Win7 and refusing to "acquire" one.
Sam,
Acquiring one has recently gotten to be a very problematic thing. You can acquire a copy, but it won't authenticate, in fact it may not even let you install it. You might get a message that your copy of Win 7 does not match the profile of the computer you are trying to install it on. Each legitimate install of Win 7 generates a profile of your computer, which is mated to a unique identifier code on the install disk which Micro$oft collects and stores in a Database. They give you about 120 days to fiddle with your configuration. After that it's locked, so for instance if you buy a new CPU, you have to be able to prove via invoice, that you bought a new one. I'm not exactly sure what information they collect besides the CPU ID, but essentially your legitimate copy of Win 7 is "Married" to your CPU ID, so it can't be installed on another computer, as each copy of Win 7 contains it's own unique identifier code. You can't legally or otherwise stop M$ from collecting that information, or stop them from disabling Win 7 if the profile doesn't match, as it checks the configuration every time you boot up, after the 120 day period. Unplugging the Lan cable won't solve the problem, as windows will not fully start until you have an internet connection. I'm not 100% sure about that part, but even if it boots up correctly, M$ will check the minute an internet connection is plugged in. You can not access or modify the profile information, as M$ is the only one that can access or modify it.
Even OEMs for Builders will be that way, with one copy for each computer, so if you buy a computer with Win 7 installed, be sure you get the Disk and Authentication sticker with the Key Code, with it! OEMs are required to give you those! I've had a number of calls and emails about this very recently. Even new copies of XP are that way as well. I just installed an XP-Pro/SP2 OEM for Builders the other day, on my friends build. No more free rides!
I don't know if you remember it or not, but this was a threat made by M$, a couple of years ago, that everybody laughed at. It seems, it's finally become a reality.
Russ
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I've reactivated my win7 copy on various different hardware configs several times, never had any issues at all.
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(sammorris)ATI cards also work fine with all other monitors, so I can't see why you blame the graphics card. It works both ways round Russ.
Sam,
Not according to what I read just going through some of the posts. ViewSonic, Samsung, Dell, Acer, eMachines, Hyundai, HannsG, Sceptre and even HP, were all mentioned. All have experienced problems with 1650x1050 with Ati video. There were others as well, brands I've never heard of. I also saw a few complaints about nVidia as well, but not near as many. Most of the monitors in question were 22", which makes sense, since 1680x1050 is the most common resolution for 22" monitors. There were also a few mentions of Ati and 1440x900, but my HD4670 is currently running a 19" at that resolution with no problems.
Please don't get me wrong, it may well be the monitor's fault, but apparently nVidia has taken whatever steps are necessary to aviod this kind of problem, while Ati has obviously not!
BTW, this is exactly what I input to google to get the 2 million plus!
"Ati video problem with 1680x1050 resolution"
Same spelling and everything. Try it (without the quotes) and you should get the same number.
Russ
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All mentioned, but none of them were the fault of the card. Either the drivers were not installed, or they were using bad cables, or VGA instead of DVI, and VGA has known issues with 1680x1050.
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its what i was saying about vista, aswell but everyone refused to belive
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I've reactivated my win7 copy on various different hardware configs several times, never had any issues at all.
Sam,
I have no idea to what degree they monitor the hardware, other than the CPU, but this issue has surfaced in the last couple of weeks. I would imagine if you do a bit of shuffling around of hardware, it may not start the 120 days until you have maintained the same profile for a certain period of time. I'm only guessing there though! I haven had a chance to look into it further. It happened to a member here about a week ago. I won't say who, but if he wants to chime in, maybe he can explain it better! That's up to him!
Russ
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Yes, but unlike Win7, Vista was bad :P
Interestingly Russ, googling 'nvidia 1680x1050 problem' comes up with more results than 'ATI 1680x1050 problem' - not that it really matters, as going by the number of google results for an ambiguous phrase is irrelevant.
1680x1050 is not in the original spec for VGA. Some monitors will have issues with ATI cards with it, some with nvidia cards, some with both. Inevitable due to the different way drivers are programmed. Decent monitors wouldn't have any issues with either. No matter how good the picture is on your Sceptre (and it's worth remembering Sceptre don't make the panels) the piles of condemning reviews of Sceptre monitors say enough to suggest it's just a problem with your monitor, and ATI happen to be, in this case, the convenient scapegoat. There may be a way to resolve the issue, but I've not seen it.
For ref, catalyst is meant to be able to force resolutions as well as rivatuner.
To me, logical step seems to be stick with nvidia for that system until your next monitor upgrade, and when that comes, buy from a better brand than Sceptre.
My Win7 copy is legitimate, but I reactivated my system about 5-6 times within the space of a fortnight when troubleshooting the awful 4GB 5970 cards. This was only a month and a bit ago. No problems to report. Once, the online activation was down and I had to do it over the phone, but it was still easy. So what if you have to reactivate if you change hardware? It takes seconds to reactivate.
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Yes, but unlike Win7, Vista was bad :P
Interestingly Russ, googling 'nvidia 1680x1050 problem' comes up with more results than 'ATI 1680x1050 problem' - not that it really matters, as going by the number of google results for an ambiguous phrase is irrelevant.
1680x1050 is not in the original spec for VGA. Some monitors will have issues with ATI cards with it, some with nvidia cards, some with both. Inevitable due to the different way drivers are programmed. Decent monitors wouldn't have any issues with either. No matter how good the picture is on your Sceptre (and it's worth remembering Sceptre don't make the panels) the piles of condemning reviews of Sceptre monitors say enough to suggest it's just a problem with your monitor, and ATI happen to be, in this case, the convenient scapegoat. There may be a way to resolve the issue, but I've not seen it.
For ref, catalyst is meant to be able to force resolutions as well as rivatuner.
To me, logical step seems to be stick with nvidia for that system until your next monitor upgrade, and when that comes, buy from a better brand than Sceptre.
Sam,
I've never seen "piles" of condemning reviews for one. Lots for their old CRTs, but not for LCD widescreen monitors. I read an awful lot before I purchased it in the first place, and I didn't come across any reputable reviews that were negative. The biggest complaint I came across, was the lack of a power saving standby mode, and you do have to shut it completely off every time, or the red Sceptre light will blink on and off.
I did try forcing it with Catalyst. I was on the phone with a tech from Ati for over 45 minutes. I tried everything he asked me to do, and nothing worked!
You seem to be convinced that Sceptre isn't a very good monitor. I put over 4 years of hard use on this one before it started acting up. I'm on line 14 hours a day, or more and never had a single problem with it. The picture quality is outstanding, and HD video is amazing! The colors are lush, and so life like! How would I rate it? 100% good! Others right here on AD feel the same way about theirs, although none of them has seen as much use as mine. BTW, the screen is made by Mitsubishi!
As far as googling the problem, I was very specific, "Ati video problem with 1680x1050 resolution"! You have to really think about what you are asking, and how you word it, otherwise you might not get what you are looking for. I happen to be very very good at it!
I still agree with Shaff, if the nVidia works, so should the Ati!
Russ
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Wow, a lot of people with a burnt out dvi port. That's pretty sad! I think I'll stick with Samsung, Asus, and Dell. My brothers got a small Dell screen, and it looks really good. Can't wait to get a large Dell screen. It's just unfortunate how much I need to buy one :(
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Dell's low-end monitors are competitively priced, such as the TruColor 24" ones. However, the high-end 1920x1200 and 2560x1600 monitors are very expensive, as they're top-end displays in every regard.
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I want one of their top ends extremely bad. Probably more so than you ever did :p Money of course is a problem...
If my car would stop playing games with me, I'd have probably bought it by now :(
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well my ati card (4850) didn't work with vista and my monitor in dvi out only vga OUT.
3 way compatiblity problem and no solution ever made... except use VGA.
which i would lay fault on microsoft and ati for not supporting older monitors.
So when the on/off switch finally broke completly i ran my monitor over with my car a few times and it still didnt' break so I went old school on it and beat it with a baseball bat like office space.
And now I have a widescreen witch i never really cared for but trends are trends sigh..
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Which monitor did you have?
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I've reactivated my win7 copy on various different hardware configs several times, never had any issues at all.
I can vouch for that.knowing that.I'm running Win7 ultimate on the AMD Rig and Win7 Home on the intel Rig both OEM versions still to this day. I have to call if. I install Win Xp it's phone call as well only thing I have to remember to do is on Win7 Go into the Power Options and change the plan settings because your computer will go to sleep if you don't if you don't and you fall asleep with a torrent running over night that's why .I got Never in my turn off display & put the computer to sleep made that mistake the first time on a torrent and lost Ratio points and almost banned...
ps.if i got win7 pro. I'll have a treo.lol
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it was a 19" viewsonic 3ms gaming lcd one of the very first gaming lcds that didn't ghost came out around 2004 or 05 was expensive compared to how many inches of viewing you get these days for the same price.
How can you get banned using torrents ???
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Private tracker websites (better for high speeds and high quality content availability) enforce a minimum amount of upload to ensure you are fairly uploading data back to people and contributing to the site (helps maintain high speeds. Since everybody just closes their client once the download is done at places like thepiratebay and there are no rules to enforce it, speeds are dire as only a few people have to do the work of hundreds of would-be uploaders). If you don't upload enough, you get a warning, and eventually banned if not corrected.
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I'd be wary of Samsung they have a terrible warranty program where you have to pay to mail back your broken monitor which cost me $50 for my last crt , then they send you a another one. I had to do the process 3 times and the first 2 times the replacements were broken out of the box and the last replacement lasted one month.. just get a warranty at a store that lets you replace it in house if you buy samsung . I got mine at samsclub with an extended warranty that didn't take affect until after the manufacturer warranty ran out so I basically got hosed by samsclub and samsung.
and it took about 6 weeks to get the next monitor each time.
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Originally posted by warpcrash:
How can you get banned using torrents ???
private sites you can if your a member if your Ratio is'nt up
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Maw: The answer is no, unless they routinely use an application that can use 6 cores, and won't be overclocking. Outside this scenario, the X6 CPUs have little use.
Originally posted by Russ:
Oh, while I'm not disagreeing with your answer to Red_Maw. I would also like to point out that the same drawbacks you mention would also apply to the Intel 6 cores, as well. At 1/3 of the price of the i7 970, and the i7 980X costing $100 more than the 970, I would love to have a 1090T for $295 for mine. I do a lot of Video Encoding with DVDRB/CCE, and two extra cores would reduce my encoding time by a lot. A simple bios flash, and drop one in my motherboard, and I will be good to go! It would also be the 4th CPU installed on my current platform! So far I haven't seen enough difference in performance between mine and the AM3/DDR3 boards to justify the investment in a new motherboard and DDR3. So far the lack of Sata 6.0Gb/s drives, and hardly anything that uses USB 3, seems to make having them a non-issue as well. Maybe next time!
Russ
That's what I was thinking, without a need for more cores any of the three will do fine. This is a bit late but when I said i7's I only meant the quad-cores, the hexa-cores are just ridiculous lol
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Actually, having to send back an item at owners' expense is standard practice for all manufacturers. It's only when you're sending back to retailers that there's an obligation for them to pay for the shipping process.
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by sammorris:
Maw: The answer is no, unless they routinely use an application that can use 6 cores, and won't be overclocking. Outside this scenario, the X6 CPUs have little use.
Originally posted by Russ:
Oh, while I'm not disagreeing with your answer to Red_Maw. I would also like to point out that the same drawbacks you mention would also apply to the Intel 6 cores, as well. At 1/3 of the price of the i7 970, and the i7 980X costing $100 more than the 970, I would love to have a 1090T for $295 for mine. I do a lot of Video Encoding with DVDRB/CCE, and two extra cores would reduce my encoding time by a lot. A simple bios flash, and drop one in my motherboard, and I will be good to go! It would also be the 4th CPU installed on my current platform! So far I haven't seen enough difference in performance between mine and the AM3/DDR3 boards to justify the investment in a new motherboard and DDR3. So far the lack of Sata 6.0Gb/s drives, and hardly anything that uses USB 3, seems to make having them a non-issue as well. Maybe next time!
Russ
That's what I was thinking, without a need for more cores any of the three will do fine. This is a bit late but when I said i7's I only meant the quad-cores, the hexa-cores are just ridiculous lol
Red_Maw,
My way of thinking is pretty simple. I've already got a higher end AMD 955BE/C3, a high quality 790x motherboard, DDR2 1066 5-5-5-15 ram, and a great PSU in a well cooled case. For $195 for a 1055T, or $295 for a 1090T BE, that will tap dance it's way through Multi-Threaded applications, it kicks ass in the Bang for the Buck department like no other processor AMD has delivered before. It stacks up very well with the Intel quads in it's price range. $195 for the 1055T has got to be the best bargain of the 21st Century! Easily capable of 4.0GHz, it's the cost of the CPU plus a bios flash away for me, to achieve video encoding Nirvana! I want one! Here's some reviews.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardwa...henom_x6_1090t/
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/amd_phenom2_x6_1090t/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x6-1055t-1090t-review/
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-...890fx,2613.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/har...ors-review.html
Anyone with a compatible AM2+ or an AM3 motherboard that can handle a 125w CPU would be crazy not to buy one.
Best regards,
Russ
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18. July 2010 @ 11:50 |
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Unless they can only use 4 cores or less, in which case it's a pointless investment. The 955 can do everything the 1090 can do otherwise. The 6 cores are fabulous CPUs for existing AMD owners that can use them, otherwise you're better off with a quad, from either brand.
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