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16. July 2005 @ 19:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Excellent speed. I noticed you were set on the avs option my PC is on, 32 bit MMX simple (XVID). I don't remember ever tampering with that setting, so it probably came up as a default on one of the installations. It seems to work good for my P4 system. Funny you had that problem, I was wondering about the difference in those settings. I wish someone could give a good explanation of the Decoder iDCT settings for those of us not holding a degree in engineering and explain what the different settings are for.

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16. July 2005 @ 20:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Xvid has nothing to do with DVD, (it's like DiVx) it's mpeg4 versus DVD mpeg2. MMX and all of the SSE extensions are CPU related instructions, they speed up processing if the app supports it. Whatever the purpose of IDCT is, its secondary choices are it's all directed at processor compatibility/performance.


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I believe it may have more to do with your processor than a P4 like mine, if there is a connection. I tried it with the MMX SSE setting and it made little or no difference I can tell so far.

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jdobbs (or anyone who knows for sure)

What is the default iDCT setting?

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Mine is Default Decoder, running Rebuilder 1.00 RC2.

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Guess you're probably right, "Decoder Default" does appear to be a default option. I was just curious as to how my system got set to 32 bit Simple MMX; I know I never changed it manually before. It seems to be working okay on the settings I've tried, both Simple MMX and SSE/MMX.

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As far as I know the only benefit of those extensions are for processing speed. If you look in the DVD Rebuilder help file, the default setting is recommended. For some strange reason when I opened RB it Defaulted to "32 Bit simple MMX(Xvid."



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I was making a backup of the X-Files Season 9 Disc 2 after having successfully making a backup of Disc 1 and this was the error message I received after every retry(twice so far).



Also the encode finishes way too quickly as it skips a section of VTS_5-8 however VTS_4 is done without a problem.VTS_9-11 are blanked out as extras being they are international clips. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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HKT

An interesting error message and one that I've never seen before involving CCE. Did you do any editing prior to encoding? Did you try ripping the DVD again, it's possible that the original source is corrupted.


Here's a doom9 similarity.


http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=a100e62d729f9e501f9cab03c...

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I perhaps should've mentioned that in my last post but I have done no editing at all with the DVD9 version. I ripped the files with DVD Decrypter multiple times and how can I check if the original source (actual DVD) is corrupted?

I also managed to read through that thread and if I'm reading right the current version mentioned there is .58 and I'm using v1.0RC2 so I think a few changes have been made and the resolution there wouldn't apply. I suppose it doesn't hurt to try and get my hands on the old but reliable MPEG2Dec3dg.dll, anyone here care pointing me to a link? ;-)

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HKT3020


You might also want to create and entire setup of of an earlier version of RB. Just did an encode the other day with 0.93 because for some reason RB 1.00 RC2 kept failing at 70% rebuild phase. I wish I could have been of more help but I haven't done many episodic, in fact the Monty Python's Flying Circus series is the only one that I did completely.

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17. July 2005 @ 12:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sophocles,

Nice speed using DVD-RB. It makes it a little easier justifying that PC upgrade that one would want but shouldn't have.


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Gnomex

I thought that the first one coming in at 76 minutes had to be a mistake so I did a completely different movie and it came it at 74 minutes. What's amazing is that I'm using an AMD 64 3500 2.2ghz@2.5 ghz. The encoding edge has always been on Intel's side but I think that AMD is putting that notion to rest with the new Venice core (it now has SSE3).

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It seems DVD-RB is only encoding VTS_4 which explains why a DVD over 180 minutes DVD took only a few minutes to encode. So I think I know what is going on, my DVD-RB setup is fine after checking many times and trying to figure out what is the most likely possibility and I recall reading somewhere that when selecting movie & menu mode, DVD-RB blanks out extras so it usually blanks out VTS files that are smaller in file size compared to the largest VTS available. At least thats what I'm hoping the problem is, I'll try full disc mode and blank the extras with VOB blanker before. I still don't quite understand how this problem came about when the DVD structure to Season 9 Disc 1 is pretty much the same. Well I'll keep you guys posted on how this turns out...

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Sorry for such a newbie question but my RB is not shrinking my DVD 9 to DVD 5 despite adding the CCETargetSectors line in the ini file. Do I have it set up right? Here is a copy of the ini:

[Options]
SkinVersion=3
CCE=3
OneClick=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
HalfD1=0000000
CCETargetSectors=2260000
Convert_16_9=0000000
DisableInterlace=0000000
[Audio]
Selected=111101111
[Subpictures]
Selected=100100100100
[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctspt.exe
DECOMB=C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My Documents\My Downloaded Programs\DVD Rebuilder\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
MPEG2DEC=C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My Documents\My Downloaded Programs\DVD Rebuilder\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=E:\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\HP_OWNER\MY DOCUMENTS\DVD TEMP\
Output=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\HP_OWNER\MY DOCUMENTS\DVD TEMP\
[Setup]


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You shouldn't have to tweak anything the default settings should have worked. What is size of your Video_TS folder? What media and burning application are you using?
I am using the latest CopyToDVD to burn the DVD. The Video TS folder is 7.81GB in size after using the above settings.

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If you're having trouble setting up DVD-RB why not opt for Rockas' DVD-RB all in one installer.

http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdown...

Make sure you scroll down for the full installer, the reason I mention this is because I see mpeg2dec3dg.dll being used rather than dgdecode which is what is recommended today and I should add much faster.

About the X-Files Season 9 Disc 2 problem I've been having, its been solved. I blanked out the extras with VOB Blanker and ran the DVD through DVD-RB in full disc mode without a problem. Thanks to those for their recommendations concerning the matter.;-)
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First of all I'll agree with HKT3020, instead of trouble shooting, it will save time and trouble to just delete the setup you have and use the Rockas installer, it's fast and easy. Also, he is correct on the DGDecode. Only on rare occasions would one want to revert to the Mpeg2Dec3 decoder. Personally, I haven't seen one of those rare occasions. Be sure you have an acceptable version of AviSynth installed before you begin the installation. Some of the later beta versions won't work. The last I checked, AviSynth 2.56 beta 1 and DGDecode 1.2.0 will work with Rebuilder. AviSynth 2.56 beta 2 and DGDecode 1.2.1 will not. Don't worry about the DGDecode, that is included with the Rockas installer. You can get the AviSynth download from SourceFORGE.net http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57023 . Use the 2.5.5 ( http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57023&packa... ), anything later and it may not work.

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HI

I have a quick question. Is there any difference in quality, between CCE SP 2.66, 2.67, 2.70 ????
Let's say you encode a movie with the same settings in DVD-RB, VBR bias = 25 Q prec = 16, 4 Pass, but with different CCE (2.66,2.67,2.70).Will be any difference in picture quality between the 3 mentioned encoders ( clarity, sharpness, color...)??????

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I doubt that there's any difference in quality between any of them.

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Thanks guys. I will try the Rockas installer and see if this makes a difference in RB's ability to shrink a DVD 9 to DVD 5.

-Peace and happy burning.
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Just remember the AviSynth and to delete the old setup first. Loading over tends to use previous settings. The Rockas installer installs the EclCCE depending on the need, so no problem there. In case you wonder, SP trials prior to 2.7 needed EclCCE to function with RB. If you're serious about using RB, I would suggest buying the Basic, if I remember correctly, it is only about $58. Beginners have had a lot of trouble with the SP trials and besides, they leave the CCE logo on the video output.

Jerry77
From the above, note what I said about EclCCE. There is the big difference in the trials as far as usage. As far as quality, that's remained pretty much the same high quality as always.

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Thank you very much guys!
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Just remember the AviSynth and to delete the old setup first. Loading over tends to use previous settings. The Rockas installer installs the EclCCE depending on the need, so no problem there. In case you wonder, SP trials prior to 2.7 needed EclCCE to function with RB. If you're serious about using RB, I would suggest buying the Basic, if I remember correctly, it is only about $58. Beginners have had a lot of trouble with the SP trials and besides, they leave the CCE logo on the video output.
Brobear,

I have CCE SP 2.67. Is there any difference in quality between CCE SP2.67 and the latest CCE Basic?


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When RB finished Team America(installed with Rockas Installer and using AVI Synth 2.5.5), it showed a invalid path 75 runtime error. What does this mean?

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