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A NEWBIES GUIDE TO SETTING UP A DM500S FOR CARDSHARING
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jicjoc
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1. January 2011 @ 14:02 |
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Just created a new dyndns account with xxx1.dyndns.tv
I synched it to my ip with the updater
Then i tried using the tool
Again my number ip address is open on port 12000, but my dns text name is not open??
Any idea's?
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chip7
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2. January 2011 @ 04:19 |
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Originally posted by jicjoc:
Originally posted by chip7:
im gonna take the plunge and buy a dreambox .
im in ireland nthell area of dublin.
gonna get the basic dreambox first and will most likely get one of the better hd ones after.
what exactly should I buy. dm500s ?
should i buy a lan monoblock for dish so i can run 2 boxes from it ?
what size dish would be the minimum- im thinking a good dish for the longterm- maybe a motorized dish.- does it matter ?
thanks a million in advance guys- sorry if this has been asked before- im just square eyed looking at threads at this stage !!!!
What do you want to do Chip7?
If you already have a Sly subscription and want to share it, then you'll need 2xdm500s, 2xsatellite dishes, and 2xinternet connections
I want to set up a dreambox. Just want to sure that the model I get suits my region and what I'm gonna do with it ?
Dublin nthell area- dunno if that matters as I want to share a sly sub !
When I get one up and running I will most likely get another dreambox for the house
I have cat5 cables run to every tv point back to my router.
Surely I don't need 2 sat dishes !?
Can I not run 2 dreamboxes from 1 sat dish ?
I'm thinking a monoblock on dish will allow me to one dish ..
Or if I do end up paying for a server can I have 2 dreamboxes off my one sub to server ?
Cheers men
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EAMO_TOO
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2. January 2011 @ 05:26 |
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Originally posted by jicjoc:
What do you want to do Chip7?
If you already have a Sly subscription and want to share it, then you'll need 2xdm500s, 2xsatellite dishes, and 2xinternet connections
Think he wants to share internally, if so he needs 2 DM500s boxes, 1 B/B router connected to both boxes, & sat dish with monoblock or quad LNB connected to both boxes.
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EAMO_TOO
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2. January 2011 @ 05:32 |
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Originally posted by jicjoc:
Ok so Guys, strange problem.
I've my 2 boxes on one lan.
When i have Cline of 192.168.1.15 (my fline box ip), then both boxes work fine :)
Now i try dyndns update and it says my ip is synch'ed to xxx.dyndns.tv
Then i try this link http://www.dyndns.com/support/tools/openport.html and it says my port is open if i use my actual ip number 86.xxx.xxx.xxx.
But if i use my text ip xxx.dyndns.tv then the port checker says it is not open.
This is even though dyndns updater says that my ip is synched to my dns account
So something is def up with my dyndns account
Also i've tried just using my ip number address in my cline, but to no avail. I know ip addresses change often but i've tried in a period of time that i know my external ip hsant changed...
Any idea's?
Definitely a dyndns problem though right?
Did you try setting box IP's to suit your actual IP (86.xxx.xxx.xxx)range instead of using
192.168.1.xxx range
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naz07
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5. January 2011 @ 04:55 |
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Does anyone know if you can remove the transponder scans that have only a few channels.
i usaully have to do two scans before i find all the channels and want to make it easier if there was only the one found transponder scan with all the channels in.
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jicjoc
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5. January 2011 @ 06:34 |
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Originally posted by EAMO_TOO:
Originally posted by jicjoc:
Ok so Guys, strange problem.
I've my 2 boxes on one lan.
When i have Cline of 192.168.1.15 (my fline box ip), then both boxes work fine :)
Now i try dyndns update and it says my ip is synch'ed to xxx.dyndns.tv
Then i try this link http://www.dyndns.com/support/tools/openport.html and it says my port is open if i use my actual ip number 86.xxx.xxx.xxx.
But if i use my text ip xxx.dyndns.tv then the port checker says it is not open.
This is even though dyndns updater says that my ip is synched to my dns account
So something is def up with my dyndns account
Also i've tried just using my ip number address in my cline, but to no avail. I know ip addresses change often but i've tried in a period of time that i know my external ip hsant changed...
Any idea's?
Definitely a dyndns problem though right?
Did you try setting box IP's to suit your actual IP (86.xxx.xxx.xxx)range instead of using
192.168.1.xxx range
No, because then my router wouldnt talk to it right? Aswell doesnt this range change regularly?
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naz07
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5. January 2011 @ 07:53 |
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Originally posted by jicjoc:
Originally posted by EAMO_TOO:
Originally posted by jicjoc:
Ok so Guys, strange problem.
I've my 2 boxes on one lan.
When i have Cline of 192.168.1.15 (my fline box ip), then both boxes work fine :)
Now i try dyndns update and it says my ip is synch'ed to xxx.dyndns.tv
Then i try this link http://www.dyndns.com/support/tools/openport.html and it says my port is open if i use my actual ip number 86.xxx.xxx.xxx.
But if i use my text ip xxx.dyndns.tv then the port checker says it is not open.
This is even though dyndns updater says that my ip is synched to my dns account
So something is def up with my dyndns account
Also i've tried just using my ip number address in my cline, but to no avail. I know ip addresses change often but i've tried in a period of time that i know my external ip hsant changed...
Any idea's?
Definitely a dyndns problem though right?
Did you try setting box IP's to suit your actual IP (86.xxx.xxx.xxx)range instead of using
192.168.1.xxx range
No, because then my router wouldnt talk to it right? Aswell doesnt this range change regularly?
if You are using both boxes on your LAN you don't need the dyndns account you only need that if you are going to do external shares.
do you want to do a external share?
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jicjoc
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5. January 2011 @ 08:42 |
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Yes, of course i do...
I dont know how this is causing so much confusion?
I was doing things step by step as piopat did in post 1,2,3 of this thread
Step 1 - 1 dm500s box
Step 2 - 2 dm500s, both boxes on 1 lan
Step 3 - both boxes on 1 lan using dyndns
Step 4 - separate lans, using dyndns.
Step 3 worked for a while, step 4 never did.
Now dyndns seems screwed up. It doesnt relate my text dns to my numeric ip using the port open tool
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5. January 2011 @ 18:16 |
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jicjoc, want external share, settle for static ip address. solves so many problems
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jicjoc
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6. January 2011 @ 12:00 |
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Do you mean that my router to the external world is to be static?
How do i do that? Its an eircom netopia jobbie
Never thought of doing that!@!
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6. January 2011 @ 14:45 |
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ask eircom customer support for static ip address. this means that you don't continually have to update dynamic address on dyndns and users are always pointed directly at your server. you change your cline to reflect this by changing it to
c: mystaticipaddress etc
rather than
c: mydynamichostname etc
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d12pat
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6. January 2011 @ 16:44 |
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Interested in learning curve for my own house. To enable sharing amongst 4 boxes with hd what is involved. Must the server be setup on the internal network with the the client boxes identified and which is the more stable operating system?? Have done satellite work for 20 years plus this is something like the NTL dodgybox thing 3 years ago I managed to steer clear of that but this dreambox things seems to be an enivitable part or what is ahead.
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jicjoc
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7. January 2011 @ 14:31 |
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I've looked into this and it seems to be too pricey. Thanks for the idea though...
The problem is a dyndns problem i think.
Are you all sure that on this page https://www.dyndns.com/account/services/hosts/XXX.dyndns.tv
that i should have 192.169.1.15
Should this not be my external lan ip???
I wonder can i put my external lan ip into my dreambox?
I really have to get this working this weekend :(
Originally posted by fintannl:
ask eircom customer support for static ip address. this means that you don't continually have to update dynamic address on dyndns and users are always pointed directly at your server. you change your cline to reflect this by changing it to
c: mystaticipaddress etc
rather than
c: mydynamichostname etc
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7. January 2011 @ 21:40 |
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jicjoc i think we are stuck here so in order to understand we need to go back to the start ok , first question do you have a card (say a sky card ) and second question do you have a second box in your house thats connected to your router and a satellite feed . if so then we can conect to the second box at first so we know you understand what you have to do. once we connect within your own home that shows you understand how cardsharing works and then one step at a time we can look at external sharing ,to another house . no offence but maybe your running before you can walk. one step at a time.
d12pat if you only want to share your own card to 4 boxes in your house you need ,one box with the card (with subscription) and each room in your house (that you want to share ,you say 4 so i assume 4 rooms) must have a box (a box like the dreambox which is capable of sharing) and of course as you have done satellite work you will know each room must have a satellite feed . one dish with a quad lnb gives you 4 feeds for 4 rooms ,if you need four rooms plus than you need an octo lnb which has 8 feeds. you also need a way to link each box ,you dont need broadband to share within your own house hubs will do.
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bilo123
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7. January 2011 @ 23:21 |
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Thank u piopat for this great work. Can someone please point me towards a cline server site for card sharing for dreambox?
Many Thanks
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8. January 2011 @ 13:03 |
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dyndns should always have external ip address. a 192 address is an internal network ip and certainly should not be on dyndns
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8. January 2011 @ 16:45 |
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bilo123 what can i say. your request says it all. wake up and prepare to learn or join another forum
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EAMO_TOO
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8. January 2011 @ 17:43 |
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Originally posted by fintannl:
bilo123 what can i say. your request says it all. wake up and prepare to learn or join another forum
& then
With all due respects Fintanni, if someone sets up a server & charges reasonable rates for a
good service, good luck to them. Diff story server setting up, taking money & then shutting up
shop. Bilo may not know other people with similar boxes to set up share with or he may feel he
is not capable of setting up share-network. I don't feel any member has a right to suggest that
bilo should leave this forum. He simply wants all channels & is prepared to pay for them. He's
just not willing to pay what providers charge
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jicjoc
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9. January 2011 @ 08:06 |
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Originally posted by piopat:
first question do you have a card (say a sky card ) and second question do you have a second box in your house thats connected to your router and a satellite feed .
Yes, and yes. I can share internally in my own house no problem
My problem is a dyndns/router problem.
Leave out any type of cline/ fline.
If i can use the dyndns port checker to 'ping' 12000 the dns name on my dm500s i will be happy for today.
Fintannl - someone prevously up this thread told me i definitely have to have a 192 ip number in the dyndns setup page. This confised the fook out of me.
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jicjoc
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9. January 2011 @ 08:12 |
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ok - progress.
I factory reset my server side router.
I had some previous vnc ip passthrough stuff on there.
Now dyndns open port tool is recognising my dns name and 12000 port as being open.
Now i have written this next piece a couple of times before but no-one seems to understand what i mean, so i'll try again.
I have also entered my cline box as C:xxx.dyndns.tv user pass
My cline and fline boxes are on the same lan.
And it works! So this means that my cline box is going out into the outside world and finding xxx.dyndns.tv so that means an awful lot is working, right?
I cant test my cline box on another house as the interent is broken there for the moment.
Tomorrow i will though!
Some progress, at least though, at last!
Thanks!
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9. January 2011 @ 08:42 |
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should not work
cline should be
c: 192.168.1.xxx 12000 user pass
where 192.168.1.xxx is the internal ip address of the server
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jicjoc
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9. January 2011 @ 14:29 |
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Why shouldnt it work?
I know its probably not the simplest way of doing 2 boxes inside a lan, but it should still work. My c box is still connected to the internet right?
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9. January 2011 @ 15:50 |
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as an internal box you use internal ip addresses. jicjoc i did try just the scenario you suggest and i never did get it to work. having said that the logic of what you say is correct. it should be able to connect out to the external internet and back in again. i think the reason it failed with me is how i set the cline up. however in practical terms it does make more sense that you directly connect to your server rather than going out to the internet to find an address that you already know.
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9. January 2011 @ 15:53 |
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eamo i do not support pay servers. i have said it over an over again. such folk are not the people to be sharing your credit card details with. this forum should not been seen as supporting any such threads on the basis it puts users at risk
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jicjoc
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9. January 2011 @ 17:05 |
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Boom - alls sorted now!
It was a combination of previous router settings, and dyndns problems.
As soon as the open port tool started to work, a factor reset of the router followed by setting up the dm500s NAT to 12000, then it all worked perfectly...
Thanks Guys!
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