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A NEWBIES GUIDE TO SETTING UP A DM500S FOR CARDSHARING
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1. February 2011 @ 20:53 |
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you have to disable fast zapping ,its in expert setup.
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jondalor
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2. February 2011 @ 12:29 |
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Originally posted by piopat:
you have to disable fast zapping ,its in expert setup.
thanks for that
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2. February 2011 @ 16:25 |
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Hi Guys
Congrats on the really educational tuts. I have not been around here in a few years, since my days as a Replay Lite anorak ;-)
Have just dusted off my old 'L plates' and read through the posts in this thread. Thanks to the great work by piopat, Fintanni and others I think I now have a good grasp of how this all works. A couple of things I am still unclear on though, in a hypothetical sense and to help further my education:
If someone had a white shy ca~d and a DM500s and wanted to cs with 5 family members who each wanted boxes in two rooms:
1. Would this be too many shares for a single sly ca~d and cause freezing, glitches or over-clock etc?
2. If ok above, would it be best to give individual clines for each box directly from the DM500s with the ca~d or give each family member 1 cline with 1 re-share?
3. Again if above possible, what would the 'hop' number for this type of share be set at?
Thanks in advance for your insight and help
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2. February 2011 @ 16:40 |
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1/ no
2/ reshare
3/ the hop level you wish to allow
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2. February 2011 @ 17:00 |
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Originally posted by fintannl:
1/ no
2/ reshare
3/ the hop level you wish to allow
Thanks for that. Think I need to do some more reading about hop settings so that I fully understand thier purpose.
Thanks again
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jondalor
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5. February 2011 @ 14:54 |
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am i right to say, that, if i have a static ip (external), i can replace any external cline with my ip address instead of dyndns.
i'm having probs with dyndns, i think. should i be able to set up an internal shared box using external cline i.e dyndns/my static ip?
e.g
at the moment, i'm using cline
c:<external ip> <user> <password>
and it works as an internal shared box, should this work externally, it's hard for me to check.
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5. February 2011 @ 19:15 |
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no.
c: externalipaddress routerport user pass no
static ip replaces dyndns requirement (and indeed need to update dyndns). so if you have a static ip then good for u
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6. February 2011 @ 03:51 |
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Originally posted by jondalor:
am i right to say, that, if i have a static ip (external), i can replace any external cline with my ip address instead of dyndns.
i'm having probs with dyndns, i think. should i be able to set up an internal shared box using external cline i.e dyndns/my static ip?
e.g
at the moment, i'm using cline
c:<external ip> <user> <password>
and it works as an internal shared box, should this work externally, it's hard for me to check.
i
are you trying to share interanly or externaly
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jondalor
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6. February 2011 @ 06:21 |
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sorry fint, of course routerport is there as well. but good to know that set up should work.
dan, at the moment it is an internall share, but i plan to share with a few mates, and i think a direct link to my router will work better.
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balcee
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6. February 2011 @ 16:22 |
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Hi guys
Quick question re: bouquets.
Is there a recommended app somewhere out there that can create the channel list (i.e. using Sly's numbering system) automatically?
I've just been looking at bouquetwizard 3.0.2 but all that gives me is a .rar file and I'm not sure what I need to do with that.
Thanks in advance.
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EAMO_TOO
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7. February 2011 @ 01:53 |
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Originally posted by balcee:
Hi guys
Quick question re: bouquets.
Is there a recommended app somewhere out there that can create the channel list (i.e. using Sly's numbering system) automatically?
I've just been looking at bouquetwizard 3.0.2 but all that gives me is a .rar file and I'm not sure what I need to do with that.
Thanks in advance.
take a look at lyngsat or Sgt.flipflop. Think Sgt has new addon which enables chann. list
updating automatically from internet. Some of the other chann lists need an awful lot of extra programs installed & won't update properly unless everything is just so. I will send
you a link when I come across it
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so_cool
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8. February 2011 @ 05:34 |
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Thanks for the tut Piopat and the other guys who helped answering questions on this tread. I would not have set my DM800 up so easily without you guy. I have a question should, I switch DHCP off on friends boxes (clients) giving the client boxes static IPs mine being the server in which I have switched DHCP to off.
What's the advantage or disadvantage if any thanks again
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8. February 2011 @ 08:37 |
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Originally posted by so_cool:
Thanks for the tut Piopat and the other guys who helped answering questions on this tread. I would not have set my DM800 up so easily without you guy. I have a question should, I switch DHCP off on friends boxes (clients) giving the client boxes static IPs mine being the server in which I have switched DHCP to off.
What's the advantage or disadvantage if any thanks again
As far as I know, there should be no need to give them static ip addresses, and there would be no advantage to it. If it works fine without them, don't bother.
Whatever you say, say nothing when you talk about you know what for if you know who might hear you, you know what youll get. Youll be sent off to you know where for you would not know how long. Maybe I could search through the threads so you dont have to ??
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kopkidda
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8. February 2011 @ 11:53 |
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Alright fintannl and piopat.
I have been using a payserver for a while now, but I think I am going to get myself another 500S and full sky card(with setanta ireland,setanta1) and set myself up to share this out to family.
Piopat's instructions are very good(he got some of them off me :) ), how much money would I be paying a month for this full sky card and is it possible to use a dreambox 500S as the server?is it stable enough,considering it will be on 24/7
Thanks lads
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8. February 2011 @ 15:12 |
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there is no reason why client boxes should need or require static ip addresses as sg8 says. kopkidda, you know the channels you want, sky have the packages. logon to to their website and find out. dm500 is fine as server and indeed can serve hd to clients while unable to display hd itself. your packages are your choice
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8. February 2011 @ 15:37 |
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its about 76 euro a month for sky world which is all basic pay channels plus the movies and sports packages ,setanta is 17 euro a month (thats 92 euro a month and thats not hd ).setanta are not part of sky (even tho they use the sky card)once you have the sky channels you can get setanta sports in minutes via their site.
here are the prices for skys packages
http://www.sky.com/ireland/tv/costs/
sign up for setanta here
http://www.setanta.com/ie/Join-Now/join-on-satellite/
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so_cool
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8. February 2011 @ 17:10 |
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ok ip addresses and mac addresses ,every device on your network must have a unigue ip address and mac address . your network is all devices connected to your router (including any boxes on an external share ). lets say your routers ip is 192.168.0.100 and you have 2 laptops one is yours and one is for the kids ,your laptop ip is 192.168.0.101 and the kids laptop 192.168.0.102 (by the way when your sharing you need to set a static ip on all computers on your network) if you have two boxes in your own home sharing you would set them static ips ,192.168.0.103 for box one and box two 192.168.0.104 and if you are sharing with one box externally make that box ip 192.168.0.105 , you see all ips are consecutive so what ever the ip of your router is try and set all your devices consecutive ips from it . thats really all you have to do to ensure you wont have an ip conflict.
This is form post #13 on the tread by Piopat can anyone please confirm that IP issues thanks
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8. February 2011 @ 17:34 |
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Originally posted by so_cool:
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ok ip addresses and mac addresses ,every device on your network must have a unigue ip address and mac address . your network is all devices connected to your router (including any boxes on an external share ). lets say your routers ip is 192.168.0.100 and you have 2 laptops one is yours and one is for the kids ,your laptop ip is 192.168.0.101 and the kids laptop 192.168.0.102 (by the way when your sharing you need to set a static ip on all computers on your network) if you have two boxes in your own home sharing you would set them static ips ,192.168.0.103 for box one and box two 192.168.0.104 and if you are sharing with one box externally make that box ip 192.168.0.105 , you see all ips are consecutive so what ever the ip of your router is try and set all your devices consecutive ips from it . thats really all you have to do to ensure you wont have an ip conflict.
This is form post #13 on the tread by Piopat can anyone please confirm that IP issues thanks
I can see the confusion alright. When he says you need to set a static IP on all computers on your network, this would be to stop them having the same IP address on more than one computer (or box) on your internal network. The IP address of the external box would not be a problem (as it would be on its own network in the users house), and as it would be acting as a client.
If you had to have a static IP address assigned to the external box, it would mean that any server would have to issue an individual IP address to each client (which is not necessary or practical).
Hopefully someone will explain it better than I just did!!!
Whatever you say, say nothing when you talk about you know what for if you know who might hear you, you know what youll get. Youll be sent off to you know where for you would not know how long. Maybe I could search through the threads so you dont have to ??
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8. February 2011 @ 17:49 |
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it is of no concern what the ip address of a client is. the only issue is to ensure that you have a static address for server. and the only reason for that is to ensure that the port on your router is directed to your dreambox/other linux box (server) so the client can access the services.
other things is that a client from the same location cannot access the same services without approval. cccam does not allow dual access from same ip without dual usernames setup in the server system
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so_cool
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8. February 2011 @ 19:28 |
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Thanks for that clarification. I have yet another question when setting up a dyndns account I put my external Ip as host IP and I succeeded in sharing externally but when I put my server box Ip instead I can't share externally and by my understanding that's the right way to do it Also I just found out that my IP is static but I still Like to go though the dydns route as It may be more secure
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8. February 2011 @ 19:38 |
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your server ip is 192.168.x.x. if your broadband provider supplies static ip, then you are well lucky,. In truth you will need a static ip address. if you are unsure why then ask the question
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so_cool
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8. February 2011 @ 20:13 |
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Fintannl I understand why need static IP but I like to use dyndns to shield my IP the image bellow explains my problem
In the box in the image above where it says IP Address when I put my server box IP into it I can't share externally and the open port tool test fails but when I put my external IP the one given by my ISP in to it I can share externally and it passes the open port tool test should it not be the other way round
I get internet by cable my cable modem is scientific atlanta EPC 2203 and my wireless cable router is a Belkin how would this change or affect my configuration because I opened tha port on the belkin not the Atlanta thanks again
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kopkidda
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9. February 2011 @ 05:30 |
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Thanks for the info lads.
If I got all ok Sky uk package and got 2 sky boxes, would I not be able to share my card out and use these two sky boxes for my own home?as I would have to put one of the cards into the dm500 that i was using as a server?is this correct?
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9. February 2011 @ 10:10 |
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in order to get two cards from sky for your house sky will make you get multi room ,firstly sky will charge you a fee for this (maybe 15 euro extra a month)and also they will insist that your box is connected to your phone line. the reason for the phone line is that they dont want you giving the second card (that only costs 15 euro) to a mate/family member to use in their house ,when the box is connected to the phone line they know the cards are in your house where they are meant to be.
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kopkidda
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9. February 2011 @ 11:01 |
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Originally posted by piopat:
in order to get two cards from sky for your house sky will make you get multi room ,firstly sky will charge you a fee for this (maybe 15 euro extra a month)and also they will insist that your box is connected to your phone line. the reason for the phone line is that they dont want you giving the second card (that only costs 15 euro) to a mate/family member to use in their house ,when the box is connected to the phone line they know the cards are in your house where they are meant to be.
Right pat so I would have to get two boxes for my house(multiroom) and use one of these cards in my dreambox as a server.
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