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15. August 2004 @ 10:39 |
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And as brian stated what would we have to talk about? I agree I'm getting the quality I want already and I'm not about to change a tried and true working formula any time soon for an unknown.
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15. August 2004 @ 10:44 |
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Well, I suspect it's possible that that technology could eventually make some forum discussions obsolete?
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15. August 2004 @ 10:56 |
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Well, I suspect it's possible that that technology could eventually make some forum discussions obsolete?
I strongly suspect that the future for dual layer threads, on this forum, will lye in burning 2 or maybe even 3 movie backups to a single disk. Now that is something I would most definitely adopt when the media quality is consistent in price, quality & durability. Until then I am happy to sit back and watch others "iron out all the creases" for me.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:00 |
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lol, thats exactly it brian100 :), I don't think transcoding/encoding is finished just yet
if you can squeeze one DVD-9 onto a single layer DVD with more than acceptable quality then why not squeeze 2 DVD-9's with original menu's onto a D/L disc?
now where have I seen a guide to do just this????? lol :D
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15. August 2004 @ 11:02 |
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strongly suspect that the future for dual layer threads, on this forum, will lye in burning 2 or maybe even 3 movie backups to a single disk.
Would this be different movies, or say, something like all the Star Wars or Star Trek episodes? IF it were to record diferent types of movies, I would prefer to keep them separate.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:03 |
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now where have I seen a guide to do just this????? lol :D
Beats me ...only joking of course. Prepare to be busy in the, not too distant, future mate..:)
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15. August 2004 @ 11:07 |
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I think the choice of movies to be backed up on dual layer will firmly lay at the feet of the operator. On a personal note I dont think I could stomach Schindlers list & National lampoons Animal house on the same disk!! Just wouldnt seem right to me....but you never know, as they say "there's nowt stranger than folk"
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15. August 2004 @ 11:07 |
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@MackemX. ...I would hope developers wouldn't stop improving upon transcoding tools. I suspect that dual layer has made them take notice, however.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:08 |
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I can't add a thing to your statement except yes.
"And as his eyes glazes over he replies."
Imagine episodic DVD's or 3 part movies such as Star Wars (yes I'm a fan) resting on a single disc.
I sometimes wonder how long dual layer will be around when a dual layer blu-ray will hold 50 gigs.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:11 |
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Ahhh, imagine the possibilities.... ...an all day Star Wars marathon and never needing to change discs!!! Heaven on Earth.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:25 |
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I sometimes wonder how long dual layer will be around when a dual layer blu-ray will hold 50 gigs.
That is an excellent point to bring up. I try not to think of blu-ray recordable disks too much. The subject just makes me go all weak at the knees.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:31 |
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Don't let those knees get to weak, if dual layer at Meritline is still going for over $14. it?ll be sometime before blu-ray doesn?t cost as much as a cheap hard disk. LOL But when it?s affordable I?m buying. With a little quality transcoding we could stack it with 10 or more movies.
The thought brings tears to my eyes.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:34 |
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Yeah, and just imagine what it's doing to ScubaPete!!! The way he likes to put 3 or more DVD's on one DVD-5, he might be able to back up an entire collection on just a few discs!!!
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15. August 2004 @ 11:35 |
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We could all have a contest to "cram as many as you can" onto 1 disk. Thatll make the eyes water & excuse my terminology.
We'd better get back on subject here or this thread may go for an ealry bath.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:36 |
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Sophocles, Until DL takes over, this thread will never die(unless closed). Subjectivity breeds debate and everyone has their own opinion.
ddlooping, I'm curious about your question, I sent you a PM with all my results before the final shrink was released. No, I did not test it against RB/CCE-I thught we were using these 4 only, I did test DVD2One, IC 8, DVDCopy 2, and Shrink using quality settings and compared them up to 400% magnification on a 56" split screen. I also did a DL test which I posted the results in the shrink forum. Altho I no longer have my folders(4 programs with 5 levels of compression each takes up a lot of space, even with 280gigs,LOL) I can still send you my results if you wish.
I will be trying the new recode today altho I have a sneaking suspicion it will resemble another app we are well familiar with.
Doc, I don't think the 3.00 DL disc is far off, or even less. At first, $18.00 ea. for DL media was the best price you could find, it went as high as 25.00 ea.! In just two month's time it has dropped to 9.00 ea. Competition will drive the price down as more and more companies become involved.
Mackem X, it saddens me somewhat that DL backups have arrived. The finish line wasn't the best part, it was the trip getting there. It was fun and exciting in the search to find the "perfect mousetrap". It is the reason I still use 4 or 5 different apps with various methods to make my backups even now. I don't even touch RB/CCE til compression levels go over 35% because my eyes can't tell a difference before that anyway. No one watches movies at 300-400 percent magnification. Altho I haven't reached your point of quitting entirely, I can certainly see where you are coming from. It is, I fear, the end of an era.
BTW, good job on the copy protection. I have often wondered why corrupted or bad sectors haven't been used anyway. I have had several movies in the past I couldn't rip simply because of this, yet the player would play them. The latest example of this was Ned Kelly. Unfortunately it occurs right in the middle of the movie. I have tried a couple of other ones from friends(for testing purposes only I might add), and it occurs on their original copies too.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:43 |
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Lordy, in the time I took to type a response, it has become obsolete! Sorry for any repition. BTW, sophocles, I don't think blue-ray will replace DL simply for the fact I( and others) like my backups on one disc per movie. When I loan a movie to be watched I don't want to loan 10 movies! It would be good for movies and their sequels.
Sophocles, supermedia has DL for 9.00 now.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:47 |
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Lordy, in the time I took to type a response, it has become obsolete!
It's amazing how fast technology moves. Im off to try and find my old square wheel.
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15. August 2004 @ 11:50 |
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I've already tried to get them to kill this thread but they just made it a sticky and so it goes on.
I'm not entirely certain that we are off topic since we are in effect discussing the future of transcoding and it might one day start a new thread.
Yeah, and just imagine what it's doing to ScubaPete!!! The way he likes to put 3 or more DVD's on one DVD-5, he might be able to back up an entire collection on just a few discs!!! Good one Doc! LOL
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15. August 2004 @ 12:04 |
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I also think that once one gets into backing up on a regular basis, they develop some kind of backup strategy. It's natural that dual layer adds something new to the equation.
What I find comforting, at least, is that the medium is digital, and most likely will always be transferrable to whatever may come our way.
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15. August 2004 @ 12:07 |
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Brian, good to hear from ya, work must be keeping you busy! I have a round wagon you can borrow. lol
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15. August 2004 @ 12:31 |
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15. August 2004 @ 12:33 |
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Too late brian we've already teased him with that one. Have you checked out mainconcept?
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15. August 2004 @ 12:37 |
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Not had the chance to look at mainconcept. Any luck yourself? Does it compare with CCE basic?
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15. August 2004 @ 12:43 |
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It seems to be CCE's direct competition and some say that it's better in certain areas such as Progressive films. I haven't tried it yet but its been calling to me (and my wallet). I'm betting that MackemX has tried it and perhaps he can give us his opinion.
I came across it while researching applications that work with CCE and I found myself running into Mainconcept as the suggested alternative.
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15. August 2004 @ 12:47 |
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Interesting.
I think I will have to explore this app a little closer. Thanks for the head up.
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