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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.
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15. August 2004 @ 12:58 |
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Brian, That's a better price than what I saw it for. I wish you guys would quit tempting me, I am of a weak nature. No will power whatsoever. I think I'll have to say no! Damn, it's speed looks very impressive from the guide! Hmmmm........ maybe just a little trial to check it out?
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15. August 2004 @ 13:01 |
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bigo
Which one Procoder or mainconcept?
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15. August 2004 @ 13:05 |
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Procoder, That mainconcept is a little pricey, but it looks good. Are you going to try it, I'm noyt sure if I can get away with that one by the keeper of the gate(aka account,lol)
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15. August 2004 @ 13:08 |
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Mainconcept is $249. or at least the one I'm looking at is and without the teacher's discount Procoder is $499. I'm looking to see if mainconcept has a teachers discount and if it does it's mine.
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15. August 2004 @ 13:20 |
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I can get the teacher's discount, heh heh. I thought procoder was higher, but brian's link is for procoder express for 60.00. Did you look at that?
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15. August 2004 @ 13:28 |
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Mainconcept seems to have the same needs as CCE, in fact they're both touted as being plugins for Adobe premier. I'll check brians link.
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15. August 2004 @ 13:31 |
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bigo
Its for Procode express and anyone using Nero should understand those words. Is it a lite version?
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15. August 2004 @ 13:34 |
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Like CCE Basic I guess.
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15. August 2004 @ 13:39 |
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Soph, I'm thinking like CCE SP/CCE Basic is to procoder/procoder express. If this is the case it might be worth checking out for 60.00. It looks to be real fast, quality is the question.
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15. August 2004 @ 13:43 |
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Could be, I haven't tried it yet. I haven't heard that it was any competition against CCE on the web. Mainconcept seems to have made its way into the same arena but I haven't tried it yet either. So much to learn and is either really going to make a difference?
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15. August 2004 @ 15:10 |
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Guys, why look for another solution? It seems to me Rebuilder/CCE is just about perfect.
Save your nickles and pennies for HD. Soon enough..., when all our favorite movies are rereleased for HDTV, those 4 Gig DVD's are going to look silly, even the DL disks are not going to have enough room...HD-DVD or Blu-Ray will be needed, not to back up 10 of today's movies but to give us a pristine copy of an HD version of every movie we presently have in our collection...
Depressed already? or looking forward to that moment?
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15. August 2004 @ 15:42 |
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Both, lol.
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15. August 2004 @ 16:31 |
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With CCE I haven't had any video quality degradation noticable on any full disc backup so I would be hesitant to switch at this point.
I have been doing a lot of complete backups without stripping lately because anydvd puts the movie first without any editing by checking a box. That gives me the convenience skipping the ads and menus while keeping everything if needed. I just hit menu.
Donald
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jdobbs
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15. August 2004 @ 18:47 |
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Save your nickles and pennies for HD. Soon enough..., when all our favorite movies are rereleased for HDTV, those 4 Gig DVD's are going to look silly, even the DL disks are not going to have enough room...HD-DVD or Blu-Ray will be needed, not to back up 10 of today's movies but to give us a pristine copy of an HD version of every movie we presently have in our collection...
And then you will be using Rebuilder/CCE to make your HD sources fit on DL discs!
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siber
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15. August 2004 @ 18:55 |
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jdobbs, do you anticipate a Rebuilder/CCE for HD? That would be interesting.
You would think it will theoretically be possible to fit a 15-18Gb HD movie on a 9Gb DVD. It still would be questionable, especially if blank HD-DVD or Blu-Ray DVD are competitively priced.
See, so many unanswered questions, how exciting!
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15. August 2004 @ 18:57 |
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jdobbs, really? I certainly hope so. That would be very cool indeed if it would work that way. Does that mean other apps could also be applied in the same situation? HDTV is heads above. I've got the TV and I would have the apps, I'd just have to buy all those DVDs over again. I did it with vinyl, then with VHS, so what the hey, just another step in progress.
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15. August 2004 @ 19:35 |
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Does anyone know if there is a Trial version of Pro Coder (Express or 2.0)?
I found a 30-day trial of Canopus ProCoder version 1.02 (as far as i can tell):
http://www.tucows.com/preview/277834.html
But, so far no luck finding an express or 2.0 trial.
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15. August 2004 @ 19:46 |
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I am surprised you found that in a demo. With 2.0 requiring a usb port, I would say a demo is out of the question for it. I've been looking hard at express, I've seen no trial version, of course, that doesn't mean there isn't one. I may take the plunge, it has good reviews.
I bet brian would know.
BTW, long time no see, how ya been ?
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15. August 2004 @ 22:26 |
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...changing the subject just a bit, I received a reply from Cinema Craft wherein I had asked the differences between the CCE SP and Basic versions. Here's the answer I got from Shunichi Takeuchi (he didn't give a title):
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Hello David,
Basically, Basic and SP have the same encoder engine (if the version is the same). The difference is SP has more encoder parameters that you can change. For example, you can do multipass VBR encoding with SP version, while you can do only 2-pass VBR encoding with Basic. You can also do manual I-frame insertion, frame-wise filter setting and GOP-wise bitrate setting with SP, which gives you more chance to improve picture
quality.
If there are any other questions that anyone has about CCE, please let me know and I will pass them on while I still have contact with CCE.
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16. August 2004 @ 07:47 |
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Thanks, Bigo I have been good, o BTW, did find a place (i googled for it) on the ProCoder website that let you d/l demos but, you need to fill in a whole ton of info (i.e. your name address etc.) but, if you guys want it i can get the link and post it.
Here is the link:
http://www.canopus.com/cc/demos/demo_downloads.php
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16. August 2004 @ 12:18 |
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Guys I've only been playing with the notion of Procoder and Mainconcept but the truth is I'm happy with RB/CCE I don't think either of the other progs offer any real benefit, certainly not for the money.
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17. August 2004 @ 21:37 |
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Hi, I'm a retired gent (a non-bronzed Aussie) who's now taken an interest in burning songs and movies. I joined this forum this morning and spent hours reading (and trying to absorb) 30 pages of this thread!
Just wanted to say thanks guys for your contributions which have made this newbie a lot more informed and a little less confused about the pluses and minuses of some of software available. A lot of the technical stuff went over my head but I got the gist of what's what...I think.
For my purposes, I've decided to install DVDShrink 3.2 and to buy InterVideo DVDCopy2 (probably the Platinum version...I'm expecting a nice tax cheque this year <g>) and hope I don't get the pixellation problems mentioned here.
If I get into this ripping hobby more seriously I'll probably then buy CCE Basic (with DVDrebuilder) and not worry about the longer ripping times to get the better quality. That 'time' factor was one of the reasons I didn't choose to buy Pinnacle Instant Copy v8.
I don't recall any posters to this thread saying it, but you guys have got a good forum going here, plenty of diverse, informed and objective comments plus a friendly atmosphere (ok, S-Y-K-E-S wasn't so friendly <g>). I know where to go in the first instance if I have a query or need advice.
I haven't bought InterVideo DVDCopy 2 yet so if anyone knows of a compelling reason why I shouldn't buy it, PLEASE tell me now before I shell out the dollars. Any comments about my two choices (Shrink and DVDCopy2) would be appreciated. And, if I should supplement those two programs with anything else, please feel free to mention. Thanks.
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18. August 2004 @ 03:00 |
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terrytj
Welcome aboard, and if you've any problems or questions we?ll be glad to answer them. The encoding times with CCE has been offset by its batch mode feature, meaning that you can encode several movies while you sleep and have them ready to burn at your discretion.
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18. August 2004 @ 03:11 |
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terrytj: you seem to have done your homework rather well. I like your choices, I own the same programs and I have enjoyed Intervideo DVDCopy2, especially for its speed. You must know that DVDCopy2 cannot decrypt encoded DVD's.
DVD Shrink does a fairly good job with the encryption of DVD's. I have never had a problem with it but some people have reported occasional instances where SHRINK was stumped.
Another free program, DECRYPTER, apparently is good to use when that happens.
To make matters simple I have bought AnyDVD over the net, it runs always in the background on my computer and deals with the encryption of any and all DVD's. It lets me use any other software 'without worries'.
Hang in there for a while longer. I expect that a torrent of more good advice is on the way when daylight breaks in the old USA.
Welcome to the forum.
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terrytj
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18. August 2004 @ 03:53 |
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Sophocles: Thank you for the welcome. I appreciate the advantage of CCE's batch encoding feature but from some postings here I perceive there may be a real learning curve for a newbie using CCE + DVDrebuilder..and I'm not a pc-literate man (too old) nor a patient one (too old).
I understand DVDCopy2 can almost be 'a one-click and forget' program yet still get good results...and that sounds like it's for me at this stage of my development. I've only ever burned one movie in my life, at a friend's place, and even then he had to move the mouse for me <g>.
In the absence of any direct comment on my choice of programs to get I am going to presume you think them at least satisfactory for the task.
Thanks for the offer to help if needed, I may well have to take you up on it.
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