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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.
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Dr_John
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9. August 2004 @ 12:15 |
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Doc,
I went thru the thread and was unable to figure it out...when clicking "add" in the Batch Process section it wants you to identify a .rbd file...I couldn't locate one
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9. August 2004 @ 12:21 |
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That's the extension for saved DVD-RB projects. Make sure you save the project before trying to add it.
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Dr_John
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9. August 2004 @ 13:15 |
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so I need to open up rebuilder, select an individual source and desination folder for a particular project and then save the project? And then once I've saved all the projects I intend to do, I then add them to the batch?
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9. August 2004 @ 13:25 |
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I guess so. Sorry I don't know more about it, but I've never actually used DVD-RB's batch mode. I always do my batch encoding on multiple computers, which requires RBFarm. All I can say is that if it's looking for .RBD files to open it must need saved projects.
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9. August 2004 @ 13:28 |
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Dr_John
When you save you'll give each project a name, I just name then project1, project2 and so on. When your done go click batch and it will open a window to your right, then click add and look for your saved projects (project1 and 2) once thats done just click process and go to bed.
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Dr_John
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9. August 2004 @ 14:16 |
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Sounds good...I'll give it a shot when I get home.
Soph, from reading some of your previous posts, it sounds like your methodoloy is to do the encoding in the evening, save all of the projects, batch'em and let them process w/ rebuilder overnight, then burn them the next day...does that sound about right?
A couple of follow ups:
-Are the terms "encode/decypher/rip" synonomous terms?
-Does Decrypter do anything special that Shrink does not do? I seems to me the ideal method would be to use shrink w/ no compression if you're doing a movie only backup. Is there a better/faster program that does the same job while allowing you to pick and choose what to back up?
-Just to confirm my understanding, the encoding/decyphering/ripping process has nothing to do w/ quality so long as it's not compressed...correct? Same w/ burning? Quality is dependent on the rebuilding process only?
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9. August 2004 @ 14:29 |
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Well...I believe I see why my second attempt didn't work either. I started out in Batch mode, entered my source and working path files, and then was prompted for a Directory destination/folder and a .rbd file name...which I entered. This doesn't work!!! In my second attempt I did the same, but gave each .rbd file a different directory folder, and this didn't work.
It didn't occur to me to actually "Save" (Ref: the File pull-down) each source and working file combo as a project, in which DVD-RB actually gives the PROJECT.RBD choice. Then all one has to do is add a number to it. After this part, going into Batch mode and adding the PROJECT1.RBD, etc., makes sense.
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]Before saving the project files, make sure the output directory is unique for each project. Before DVD-RB processes a unit, it clears the specified output directory.
QUESTION:
If I understand this correctly, I should also give each saved PROJECT#.RBD a unique directory folder, such as C:\Batch1, C:\Batch2, C:\Batch3, etc? It sounds like if PROJECT1.RBD, etc. all end up in the C:\Batch1 at the start, only the last file will remain?
This is definitely going into the FAQ's.
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9. August 2004 @ 14:55 |
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DOH!
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9. August 2004 @ 14:59 |
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Dr_John
Be sure that each saved file is also given a destination folder.
My method:
1. open source file
2. choose destination (working path)
3. save project
4. do the same for each project and name them 1,2,3 and so on. (you will note that the files will look like this project1.drb)
5. Go to file select batch and the window to the right will open, click add, and add your projects then click process and go to bed.
long encodes are annoying when you have to do them while you would also like to use your PC, but I can start encoding at 11 and 5 to 6 AM two movies are done. In a way this is more convenient than the faster 1 click transcoders because you have to be there to change each transcode.
Give it a practice run, you can cancel at any point but if you follow these directions and it begins to encode then you've got it.
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Dr_John
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9. August 2004 @ 15:25 |
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Sounds good...thank you, sir...
BTW, anybody know what's going on w/ Doom9's forum? or better yet, where else I can get the software referanced in Vurbal's advanced DVD-RB/CCE guide?
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9. August 2004 @ 15:46 |
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Let me know how it works. I've never used CCE SP so I have no clue as to where you can download those file other than doom9.org.
Doc yes more or less.
My destination and source folders are in my C:\ drive root directory but DVD-RB defaults the .drb files to "MY DOCUMENTS Folder on your desktop," and I see no reason to change that since that is what will open first when I try to access them
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jdobbs
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9. August 2004 @ 16:48 |
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Here's how I do it:
1. I have a special hard drive for video (D:). I've created a directory called d:\iso and another called d:\dvds. Under that directory I have several called d:\dvds\keep1, d:\dvds\keep2, etc.
2. I've loaded Daemon Tools (free for personal use) on my video processing computer so I can mount ISO images. So when I use DVD Decrypter, I load it onto my hard as an ISO image and put it in the d:\iso directory.
3. I mount the images of the DVDs I intend to back up. They might be drives E:, F:, and G: for instance.
4. I setup DVD-RB the way I want it (passes, CCE, AVS, etc.) and load the VIDEO_TS of each DVD, point the output to one of d:\dvds\keep1 - keepx. Then save the project in d:\dvds with a name that represents the title (Like "d:\dvds\matrix.rdb").
5. Before hitting the sack, or before going out, I run DVD-RB in batch mode, load all the .RDB files - push "Process" and walk away.
6. When it's done I use burning software (B's Recorder Gold, only because it came with my burner) to create the backup.
Added: If it turns out to be a DVD-5 anyway, I can skip steps 3-6 and just burn the ISO directly with DVD Decrypter.
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9. August 2004 @ 17:11 |
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jdobbs
Just when you think you've got it worked out along comes someone with another way of doing it. Vurbal's got me thinking RB-farm, and I thought to get around that with a Dual Pentium server system.
Is there a chance of failure the way I'm doing it? If so I'd like to know before I find out the hard way.
Your method is interesting, I'll give that a shot when my new PC is ready. My sons PC needed a new hard disk so I gave him one of mine, largely because I'm building a new system around October. I'm waiting for the new Hitachil 300 gig 10,000 rpm to come out.
Curious, why ISO files? Is there a benefit or more a preference?
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jdobbs
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9. August 2004 @ 17:52 |
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Your way should work fine. I was just throwing out my own way of organizing. I like ISO files for no reason other than is saves me confusion if I have a lot of DVDs on my drive at one time. Since I do a lot of testing, I keep several on the drive all the time that I know are challenging in different ways (BOV, many VTSs, or unreferenced video, etc.). When they all have similar structure and all you can see are VTSs -- you end up playing VTS_01_0.VOB all the time to see what movie it is...
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9. August 2004 @ 17:58 |
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jdobbs
Thanks for your reply and I can see how a single ISO file would be easier to keep track of on crowded hard disk. I also wanted to know just in case my information was flawed so that I don't mess someone up unintentionally.
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jdobbs
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9. August 2004 @ 18:01 |
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BTW, RB Farm is great if you have multiple computers. I purposely designed DVD-RB in a way that encourages others to have access to it's functioning. That's mainly why it has the three phase mode as well as one click. I also put useful information in the REBUILDER.INF to help others see what was found during analysis. The .FLG file holds the original state of the Progressive, TFF, and RFF flags, and the .ECL and .AVS files make it possible for others to reference individual cells. If you're going to build something, it's silly to think you have all the answers -- so you might as well open it up to other peoples ideas as well. RB-Opt and RB-Farm are good examples of what a creative programmer can do when given the opportunity.
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64026402
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9. August 2004 @ 18:22 |
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ISOs are easy to track, mount, find and delete with alcohol. When I'm done with an ISO I can easily remove from my veiw without removing files or I can delete the files at the same time.
I may encode and store 5-10 movies without burning until I'm done with everything. I can do everything from the couch with my laptop doing remote duty. I just go into the office to load the DVDs and blanks.
Donald
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64026402
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9. August 2004 @ 18:27 |
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You guys have intrigued me. I'll try RBfarm. It seems like a good fit for me. I have been doing some network reconfiguring for reliability.
Donald
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64026402
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9. August 2004 @ 18:37 |
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Can anyone get me a copy of RBfarm. Doom9 seems to be having problems.
Donald
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10. August 2004 @ 07:33 |
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Sophocles...I followed your Batch steps, and they worked perfectly. The reason Batch wasn't working for me is that I didn't "Save" each project before launching Batch mode. What I did was go directly into Batch and then added each project with the ADD button as I created them one by one. While the final setup looks the same, it won't work.
With this ironed out, it puts a much different perspective on how I budget encoding time. I would agree with you that this is now more convenient than other 1-clickers, and certainly less time consuming in terms of having to stay with the computer. A lot of things seem to be a trade-off, but with RB/CCE - Batch I can now have the best quality within the least amount of committed time. 'Best of all worlds!!! You've done a mighty fine thing here, jdobbs!!!
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jdobbs
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10. August 2004 @ 07:52 |
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You have to watch closely, but every now and then I'll do something right. ;-)
Thanks.
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jdobbs
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10. August 2004 @ 07:53 |
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What I did was go directly into Batch and then added each project with the ADD button as I created them one by one. While the final setup looks the same, it won't work.
That's odd. I'll take a look at why it would be different...
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10. August 2004 @ 12:12 |
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Doc
I was having the same problem until jdobbs posted something (I can't remember exactly) and he mentioned separate folders and saving the project and it all came together. It works like a charm and makes speed almost irrelevant since I'm not going to be there while its happening anyway. glad it worked for you too.
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10. August 2004 @ 12:19 |
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jdobbs
If you go right into batch and start adding files without having saved them first you won't have any .drb files and nothing will happen. The projects have to be saved first. It was you that indirectly taught me that in one of your post and for that I am truly thankful. The batch feature will remove the objection that ofen follows the thought of long encodes. I did three moves while away at work today and it worked like a charm. Vurbal has to add this to his guide.
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10. August 2004 @ 12:40 |
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I'm thinking that once a few Shrink adovocates sit through 3.2's 2-1/2 hour deep analysis a few times, they will start looking this way. My reaction right now is one of "laughing all the way to the bank!" (I'd say "having your cake and eat it too" but this might start something all over again.)
Concerning the .rbd files, even if you fill in a name, and it looks like it takes, it still won't work.
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