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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.
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11. September 2004 @ 18:41 |
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If you have SSE2 program the P4 can perform substantially better. CCE is SSE2 enabled making this quite Important.
How do you go about finding if a program is SSE2 enabled?
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11. September 2004 @ 18:43 |
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Usually its advertized. With CCE that was the main loss when using CCE SP 2.50. It was not SSE2 enabled like the later versions.
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11. September 2004 @ 18:44 |
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Dual chips are the reality that hyper threading can't ever meet. The xeons can also be overclocked but individually or one on one clock per clock a P4 blows a xeon away, especially a P4 with the Northwood core. The frontside bus is only 400 mhz so you'd take a hit there too. For my money overclock what you have.
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11. September 2004 @ 18:49 |
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The newer Xeons and chipsets come very close to the newer P4 chipsets. For encoding you would definately get double your performance.
But by that point you have spent a pretty penny.
If your on a budget overclocking can get you substantially lower encode times as the memory speed increase helps as much as the proc speed.
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11. September 2004 @ 18:55 |
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Thanks for the insight. A few months ago I picked up 3 P4's 2.66 533FSB for $300. I put 2 of them with some cheapo Matsonic boards that don't overclock. I'm thinking the best buck I could spend now would be on some better mobos. Any thoughts?
Also, my son just put together a P4-2.2 on a 400 FSB Intel board with std SDRAM, and he seems to outperform my boards that have DDR, and he hasn't overclocked yet. I'm thinking motherboards play a much larger role in performance than they are given credit for.
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11. September 2004 @ 19:08 |
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Sdram was a dog but the Intel boards would feel pretty snappy.
I usually wait for the Asus boards on newegg to come out in the refurb section for about 30-40 bucks. They are fast and overclockable. I have an extra awaiting the next custumer and proc.
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11. September 2004 @ 19:11 |
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You could also look for a performance flash for your Matsonic. Sometimes if a cheap board gets popular someone will make an adjustable bios.
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11. September 2004 @ 19:23 |
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That's a thought. I'll look around. I talked to a Matsonic USA rep, and he said they wanted to lock in the cpu speed. I got the boards because they fit into a space-saving book-style case that I could easily stack. They have given me too many problems, though, and I'm at the point that I don't care how much space a few towers take up.
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12. September 2004 @ 04:37 |
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You'll probably see MPEG-4 come into its own on HD-DVD... but don't hold your breath, it'll be a while. I'm already pondering how to get HD on dual layer DVD...
I've been doing a lot of thinking about that as well. I've never really done a lot of experimenting with MPEG-4, but that seems like the next logical challenge to tackle.
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12. September 2004 @ 08:39 |
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I began backing up movies into mpeg 4 back in tht 90s using Flask mpeg and later Gordian knot. I achieved some pretty good results by splitting movies into two 750 meg files and then overburning them to to a CDR. I could have encoded a movie into a single 750 meg file but the result would ahve been reduced picture quality. Because there were no mpeg4 compliant players at the time, I had to use a PC connected to my TV in order to play them (resolution if I remember was 480X480). I quit making mpeg4 after the arrival of DVD burners.
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12. September 2004 @ 09:11 |
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Hmmm ... the good ole' days. Sophocles ... You must have had a mobo that had an RCA video output? Before DVD burners it was always fun to see where you could land between VHS quality and the source DVD. I got my best results with DivX...but action scenes always pixelated. It was the arrival of DVDXCopy that prompted me to get a DVD burner. And when DVD2One came out, I didn't know how things could ever get better than that.
...and this thread lives on.
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12. September 2004 @ 09:46 |
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Actually the TV out was on my Nvdia AGP Video card which I believe I got at the end of 1997 or early 1998. In the beginning I left my copies on my slave hard disk but it soon became choked with movies. Although I'm a registered user of DiVx I rarely use it anymore. I originally got into with the misguided notion that I would fill hard disks with movies that I'd watch as my wife and I sailed around the world on a 32 foot sail boat we inherited.
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12. September 2004 @ 09:52 |
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What was misguided...that you could put a lot of movies on a hard drive ... or sailing around the world in a 32 foot sailboat?
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12. September 2004 @ 09:56 |
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Sailing around the world, the boat was able but I'm not wealthy enoughto retire or to make that happen.
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12. September 2004 @ 10:06 |
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Well, at this point, if you were to win the lotto, you could do the Scuba Pete thing and put all your DVD's on a 6-pack of blu-rays. And then set sail.
I once had the asperation of getting rich, retiring, and sailing the world. That changed when I got married and had kids.
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12. September 2004 @ 10:09 |
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Hmm! Yes I did forget that little factor didn't I. A wife and kids, but my youngest is now 17 and almost 18, and the boat is in storage.
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13. September 2004 @ 08:54 |
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Sophocles...Do I remember you saying you're off til Tuesday?
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13. September 2004 @ 09:01 |
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The Hurricane has taken a turn away from us so we will be going back to work on Tuesday. I do however get Thursday off because of Rosh Hashanah.
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13. September 2004 @ 09:08 |
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Well, that's good news about Ivan. So it'll be a short week, so to speak?
I'm onto a new project and I'm wondering how much of this DVD backup knowlegde will be useful. I want to convert about 60 hours of home video VHS-C tapes to DVD. I just got the Canopus ADVC100, which locks the A/V, and converts to DV AVI. I'd like to get 2 hours of quality home video on a DVD-5. Any thoughts? (I should probably take this over to the video forum...any takers right now?)
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13. September 2004 @ 09:14 |
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Canopus should do all the work for you right to the burn. The file that you copy to your hard disk will be an avi file and the decompression to mpeg2 will allow only about an hour and 10 minutes of play time on a type 5. For me that was enough on one DVD, I focussed more on chapters.
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13. September 2004 @ 09:17 |
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A couple of quick ones. About how large is a 1 hour DV AVI file, and what prog did you edit with for your chapters? Is this where you would suggest Ulead?
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13. September 2004 @ 09:22 |
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You should definitely hold off judgement regarding the amount you can fit on a DVD until you see what kind of quality the file is, and whether you need (or want) to do anything to clean it up. As a general rule, home videos require a fairly high bitrate than commercial sources so as Sophocles mentioned, 2 hours at high quality is probably unrealistic. On the other hand, it's a perfect oppurtunity to get experience encoding with CCE.
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13. September 2004 @ 09:23 |
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I used Ulead for both capturing and editing. I can't remember the actual file size of the AVI but an AVI is more compressed than mpeg2 and the decompression is not an exact science. You could probably use a transcoder on it when you're finished to compress even more but I chose to leave it alone for quality.
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13. September 2004 @ 09:31 |
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I used a Sony Hi8 Cam and I have to say that the quality was really quite good, I didn't see any noticeable transfer loss. I was more than happy with the little more than an hour I got and an hour is a lot of watching when they're home movies.
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13. September 2004 @ 09:32 |
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Well, quality is a strong concern, and thanks for focusing on that part. I think the 60 hours of home video might edit down to 6 hours, so whether it's 3 or 6 DVD's really isn't important.
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