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jdobbs
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31. August 2004 @ 15:36 |
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I truly think that whole drive thing was an exceptional fluke -- and would need a setup exactly like brobear's to happen again.
The buffer error you receive for 0003 and 0004 aren't even disc buffers, they are memory spaces into which video/audio is kept during rebuild.
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31. August 2004 @ 15:39 |
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31. August 2004 @ 15:59 |
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It appears that brobear was also getting a Runtime Error 6 - Overflow. There is a short discussion about this at the following link. This discussion is, however, about code and beyond my level of understanding.
http://www.applecore99.com/gen/gen059.asp
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31. August 2004 @ 16:04 |
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I think that it's safe to say that if a problem begins to seem umresolvable and all the known solutions to it have failed, then it's time to step back and ask one's self a simple question. What have I not tried?
Some info from the net>
I've made a little bit of progress... I booted from the 200GB that still has XP on it and I uninstalled Roxio GoBack. Then I booted from the 36GB SATA and now I can see the 200GB as a secondary drive with a drive letter assigned to it.
Unfortunately, I still can't open it. I get this error:
D:\ is not accessable.
The semaphore timeout period has expired.
've swapped the cables and connections in every way. I tried to update the ATA card's driver, but I think I have the latest. This really sucks.
Both 200GB drives are visible in MY COMPUTER and in DISK MANAGEMENT. Both have drive letters and are "healthy."
I still get this error when I try to access either:
THE DRIVE IS NOT ACCESSABLE.
SEMAPHORE TIMEOUT PERIOD EXPIRED.
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31. August 2004 @ 16:14 |
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Soph ... that has the definite flavor of something I read recently, but I just can't seem to remember where. :)
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31. August 2004 @ 16:19 |
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Doc it might be in one of my old posts, me and semaphores are old friends. Its a problem that often gets overlookedlike deframenting ones hard disk and it doesn't always give a message. Sometimes the application will report a failure before ones system does.
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31. August 2004 @ 18:30 |
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That's very interesting soph, I was just talking with brobear the other day about semaphore timeouts. I didn't realize their impact was so affecting.
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31. August 2004 @ 18:55 |
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I went and deleted everthing that was on the RB guide, i even deleted the folders, ran Disk Cleanup, rebooted then, i ran Disk Cleanup again. I reinstalled everything following Vurbal's guide step-by-step (except i added "CCETargetSectors=2260000" to the ini file as you can see below) and am going to run RB over night.
[Options]
OneClick=1
NoWarn=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
RemoveDTS=1
LoadPlugin=1
CCETargetSectors=2260000
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[Paths]
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\dvd-rb057\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
Source=G:\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\CJ\DESKTOP\LOTR ROTK WORKING DIR\
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
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31. August 2004 @ 19:31 |
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It looks like a clean setup to me.
Go for it.
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1. September 2004 @ 04:00 |
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Possibly the solution to my Buffer Overflow and Run'time Overflow problems was a fluke. But this is with late model equipment and drives. Other than the burner I added and an extra 250GB HDD to go along with an 80 GB HDD, my PC is pretty much what would be found in many stores. So I didn't use any bazaar equipment to induce the problem.
I noticed you left the source on another drive. If you continue to have problems, move the source folder onto the C drive along with the programs and the work folder. It's just a thought, but it can't hurt, put everything involved with the RB/CCE setup on the same drive and that includes the source folder and the work folder.
I know there are multiple causes for this type problem. But putting everything on one drive is a quick way of eliminating at least one of the odd problems. If it doesn't work, you haven't lost anything other than a few minutes time setting up the folders. Normally the RB/CCE setup works well using multiple drives. But as my problem showed, not in all cases. There is no apparent time loss. I ran a movie through in 2hr and 58 min and the compression level was near 50%. I hear that is about par for a mid level piece of equipment like mine.
Below is the final setup that worked for my system.
[Options]
OneClick=1
NoWarn=1
LoadPlugin=1
AudioDub=0
idct7Opt=1
CCE=2
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2
[Paths]
CCEBasic=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology2\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic_269\cct2.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
[Setup]
Languages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
sLanguages=1111111111111111111111110111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
All the settings are straight from the guide with the exception of the location of the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll file. That file works well from the plugins folder in Avisynth, at least on my system. The guide calls for it to be in the RB folder. Guess it works either way, haven't tried it in the RB folder yet. Once I got the program functioning, I ran it while surfing the net and keeping from 3 to 5 windows working. Not a flaw and the Video_TS folder produced was 4.33 GB in size and the quality was excellent. I didn't even turn off programs I normally do while recording. I mention all this because I was trying to add a load on the system that isn't normally there to see if the program would fail. It didn't.
One thing I didn't mention was that once I initially got my program to run to completion, I was getting an over compressed Video_TS folder at 2.9 GB in size. I tried adding CCETargetSectors=2260000 in the setup under Options. The effect was to add .03 GB. So that didn't solve my file size problem at all. That was when I decided to go with a clean install and use 0.57 RB along with 2.69 CCE Basic. I had been using 2.67. I'd tried switching from 2.69 to 2.67 earlier to try and solve the 0003 problem with no effect. The clean install solved the over compression problem. I ran the test a second time just to make sure; using the same file, 4.33 GB again. It's safe to say my setup is now functioning properly and I can start tweaking the system.
Once again I'd like to thank Sophocles, jdobbs and the others who helped with the problem. Thanks to jdobbs for an excellent program, even if it took me a while to get it working. There shouldn't be any fear using the new version. If it works for me, it should work for just about everyone.
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1. September 2004 @ 04:36 |
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For those who were wondering about the absence of the CCE=2 in my setup; I noticed the reason why. CCE2 showed up after the system had successfully run through a movie. After a clean setup and until at least one completion, CCE=2 wasn't written into the file. CCE had to be selected for it to be used and go into phase III where my problem caused the program to abort. So the program had recognized the selection, it just hadn't entered into the file yet.
What Sophocles was saying about semaphore timeout is correct here. It is similar. A case in point is where the DVD Decrypter program was having problems with some external drives and there was a semaphore timeout error. That is a well documented problem. The problem stems from the interface not transferring the data fast enough to sychronize with the program on the PC. In my case, 0003 Buffer Overflow, the program wasn't synchronized with the data stream and there was enough time lag to cause the overflow warning to occurr. 1 GB RAM along with a P4 2.8 GHz CPU with an 800 MHz FSB; so in my case I wasn't looking at a lack of system resources or antiquated equipment.
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I truly think that whole drive thing was an exceptional fluke -- and would need a setup exactly like brobear's to happen again.
The buffer error you receive for 0003 and 0004 aren't even disc buffers, they are memory spaces into which video/audio is kept during rebuild.
I hate to say it, but there were thousands of this model PC put together with the same parts. Mine is a Dell 8300 I purchased in 2003 and there are a lot more of them out there. Also, other brands use the same components. The only variation from out of the box was the addition of an extra HDD and the burner. It appears the video/audio just wasn't getting into and out of the memory spaces at the right time and the same thing could happen on a lot of similar PCs. Then again, it may just be my particular WD HDD that I added and no one else will add one to a Dell 8300 and use the RB/CCE combo. Who knows?
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1. September 2004 @ 12:21 |
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Hmm! I can tell brobear's back, together with Vurbal the two of them can take up an entire page.
brobear
Good semaphore description, clearly defined.
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1. September 2004 @ 12:29 |
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Yeah, but think of all the good info they lay down into print. :)
I expect brobear is one happy camper right now. I know what it was like for me trying to get things working. It's a different 4 hours one spends when the outcome is not known compared to when the outcome is. And when this goes on for several days, it becomes all-consuming as one tries to out-think what the problem is. Anyway, I certainly had a high level of relief once things start working.
'Wonder how Pop Smith is coming along? Looked like a clean setup to me.
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1. September 2004 @ 12:36 |
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Hmm! I can tell brobear's back, together with Vurbal the two of them can take up and entire page.
I resent the implication that I need help taking up an entire page, and just to prove it my next post will be a thorough explanation of every encoding option for CCE Basic..........just kidding ;)
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1. September 2004 @ 12:42 |
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I was being fair I was afraid that if I got selective then one of you would feel slighted. We couldn't have that.
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just to prove it my next post will be a thorough explanation of every encoding option for CCE Basic
I wonder?
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1. September 2004 @ 12:58 |
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Now we have to get him into batch processing. With bigo he'd have to do it in the day while he slept, come to think of it, brobears a bit of a Night Owl too.
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1. September 2004 @ 13:02 |
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Wonder how Pop Smith is coming along? Looked like a clean setup to me.
Well, i had homework last night and my sis ran into internet trouble w. her laptop i am running RB/CCE right now.
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1. September 2004 @ 13:03 |
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I was thinking the same thing .. about getting brobear into the Batch mode. I suspect it might be a week or two before he's interested...as a little bit of a track record may be needed. Call it guarded optimism.
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1. September 2004 @ 13:11 |
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I'm trying to make sense of a "little" problem. Realizing that DVDs which go back a few years often come in around 4 GB, it seems it would make sense to just rip with Decrypter and burn with Nero. When I do this, I have been getting a some pixelation and freeze frames. Nothing drastic, but even once in a movie is enough to be annoying. When I run the movie though a transcoder ... and most recently the RB-CCE setup ... things come out OK. The thing is, I am wondering why a DVD-5 size file would be a problem to burn directly to disc right out of the ripper? Any ideas?
(PS: I'm using G04's)
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1. September 2004 @ 13:50 |
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Bad media could explain the skipping but not the pixelation. I've burned a large number of type 5's lately I've been collecting old Bogart films and other greats such as Citizen Kane. Have you tried ripping them with DVD Shrink to see if there's a difference?
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1. September 2004 @ 14:12 |
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For the most part it has been the Frame freezes. Since I shouldn't be having a problem, I'll zero in on the media. I haven't been using Shrink because it wouldn't make any sense to remove any languages, etc. when things are a DVD-5, but I will give that a try.
Soph ... Are you trying any filters with the B & W's?
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1. September 2004 @ 14:22 |
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The copy's I've got of Citizen Kane and the Maltese Falcon have already been cleaned up and I can?t see any benefit to using more filters. Where I see a benefit to filters are with those old rock concerts that were filmed with ¾ inch cams in a dark auditorium.
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1. September 2004 @ 14:40 |
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That's good to know. I recently BU'd Casablanca, and was thinking about doing some of of the other classics.
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1. September 2004 @ 14:43 |
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doc, surely as long as you have been here, media couldn't be your problem. How many times have you seen Verbatim and Ritek mentioned and recommended in this forum-2,000, 3,000, 5,000 times? If you tell me you're using Memorex I'm gonna sic Pete on ya. :)
I must say since I only use DVDCopy 2 for newer movies now I haven't seen any pixelation or other problems, color or B&W, with any app I've used. I just did "Some like it Hot", "Harvey", and "Bringing up Baby-all B&W and all with Shrink or ripped with Decrypter.
Soph, I must remind you once again I don't sleep all day, 6:00am to 10:30am works nicely, thank you very much. heh heh ;)
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1. September 2004 @ 14:49 |
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Big-O, please don't sic Pete on me. I promise, I'm using G04's, and I've confirmed this with ID S/W. That's what I found hard to understand about the glitches. It might have just been a bad batch. I'm into another now, and I will be checking.
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