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Which Transcoding Tools Produce The Best Picture Quality.
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3. September 2004 @ 21:36 |
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Did you purchase Sony Vegas?
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11. September 2004 @ 13:42 |
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I think that we should all get together and take a final vote and put this thread to its rest.
My vote: Rb/CCE
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11. September 2004 @ 13:49 |
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Well, who knows what's on the horizon. I saw on the AD front page of a free MPEG-4 trial. I am trying to figure out what effect that standard will have on the present way of doing things? Any ideas?
But I would vote for RB/CCE right now...and many times over.
I also needed to do a quick backup a couple of nights ago, and my program of choice was DVD2One 1.5. Of all the other transcoders, it has been the most reliable for me.
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11. September 2004 @ 13:58 |
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Speaking of voting is DVDrebuilder Democrat or Republican.
I vote DVDrebuilder/CCE too.
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11. September 2004 @ 14:01 |
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It's an independent vote.
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11. September 2004 @ 14:07 |
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I also suspect it is also safe to go off topic now with this thread.
Sophocles.... (From the "Are you" thread), I got to thinking what got me into building systems. It was necessity, and began with a crashed hard drive. There were also a host of other problems, and I didn't know if they were software or hardware related. Once I got into the hardware end of it, it became a lot easier to find this answer. This knowledge has saved me thousands that support fees would have otherwise cost. And, as we all know, we can put together a custom system for a lot less $$$'s than we can buy an off-the-shelf unit. (I'm going to have to get Donald's spec for the dual CPU's).
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11. September 2004 @ 14:13 |
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I've been looking at dual CPU's and even have several configurations saved in MS word. With Intel its Xeon or nothing. Donald works with a lot of AMD's and that'll probably be the most economic route. Too many new technologies are on the horizon and that's keeping me stalled and tweaking and minor upgrading.
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11. September 2004 @ 14:23 |
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Is it safe to presume that dual CPU's are twice as fast as a single, equivalent CPU?
Concerning the new technologies, you must mean the 64 bit CPU's? I think when these arrive video encoding will come into its own. But by then we may not need them, we'll just use a dual-layer disc!!!
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11. September 2004 @ 14:29 |
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64 bit is certainly a new technology but I'm thinking PCI express, DDR-2 when it starts working, and dual core
CPU's.
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11. September 2004 @ 14:55 |
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Thanks for the link. Interesting discussion about over-clocking. I've been meaning to join, also, and just did.
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11. September 2004 @ 15:04 |
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I was hoping you would, now if only Donald would join.
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11. September 2004 @ 15:07 |
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Well, who knows what's on the horizon. I saw on the AD front page of a free MPEG-4 trial. I am trying to figure out what effect that standard will have on the present way of doing things? Any ideas?
You'll probably see MPEG-4 come into its own on HD-DVD... but don't hold your breath, it'll be a while. I'm already pondering how to get HD on dual layer DVD...
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11. September 2004 @ 15:14 |
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You keep pondering and we'll get it eventually. Have you ever considered being a cyber Santa Claus? I know that a lot of us feel that you already are.
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11. September 2004 @ 15:40 |
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I don't think engineers are allowed to be cyber Santas, are they? They have to spend all their time writing code. ...I think I read that somewhere. But jdobbs comes real close to being a Santa. And I'm close to making another donation to the cause. :)
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11. September 2004 @ 16:06 |
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Ho, ho, ho...
Hey, Sophocles, do you keep a horseshoe in your pocket or something? I just watched the weather report and it looks like you're going to get a piece of the next hurricane too....
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11. September 2004 @ 16:13 |
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I think it's those red descending in size circles on my chest, shirts, property as one might see it from space.
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11. September 2004 @ 16:23 |
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LOL.
BTW... v0.59 has been posted on Doom9. There are a couple of important bugfixes in this one.
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11. September 2004 @ 16:33 |
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Thanks I'll go grab a copy. Do you have the link?
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11. September 2004 @ 16:41 |
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11. September 2004 @ 18:10 |
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If you have SMP aware software a dual is about twice as fast as a similar setup with one proc.
The reason I use them is they respond what feels like 4 times as fast making them a joy to use. But actual performance is double at best and the same if it isn't a multi threaded program.
Luckily CCE is SMP aware and will cut encode times appropriately.
The MP and MPX chipsets are the cheapest for the performance but they are aging technology which limits performance. There are still good procs available but the memory has to be overclocked to get better performance.
That leaves the Optetrons and Xeons for the newer features.
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11. September 2004 @ 18:17 |
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True, I've been reviewing the specs of both for some time now and I just can't make my mind up. What's odd is that the opterons actually cost more than the xeons and in a world where Intel is considered to be overpriced it doesn't make sense. I may just stay with a single P4 Northwood and overclock to its 3.6 gig max. It's to bad that CCE doesn't benefit from HT but I guess one can have it all.
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11. September 2004 @ 18:33 |
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HT is more of a hardwired software change so you don't get anyore processing power. It just uses what is there more effeciently if the software is written for it. CCE uses HT but with no additional real processors it yields no benifit.
Optetrons are pitted more against the Itaniums since They are the only true 64 bit processor Intel has. Thus the price difference.
I never was happy with the P4 based processors. They traded to much performance for the Mhz it gains. You notice their fastest and most expensive procs are nowhere near 3.0 ghz.
I concede that the fastest Itaniums are faster than the optetrons but the price difference negates the Itanium's advantage on the high end.
P4s main advantage is in the SSE2 implemetation.
If you have SSE2 program the P4 can perform substantially better. CCE is SSE2 enabled making this quite Important.
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11. September 2004 @ 18:35 |
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11. September 2004 @ 18:35 |
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not again.
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11. September 2004 @ 18:41 |
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The older low speed Xeons were terrible performers. Your 2.6 will encode faster.
Don't go less than 2.4 ghz. Otherwise the Amd MPs are the more powerful combo on the cheaper side.
The Newest Xeons are quite fast if you can afford them and will encode CCE faster than any setup I can think of. With the best SSE2 and fastest procs you wouldn't need a farm.
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