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IMPORTANT NOTICE - BAD MEDIA - UK
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Benyang
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25. February 2004 @ 02:49 |
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very large Ritek DVD-R/+R 4x, under grade a in UK, they print brand in UK not in Taiwan by Ritek, if OEM brand in Ritek, the discs must be A grade, so why the Ritek DVD price dropped so soon, please be careful when you buy Ritek DVD-R GO4, must be check they are A grade.
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naltsta
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25. February 2004 @ 10:51 |
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Oh dear Ive been screwd should of read this before buying... One of the discs has only about half the surface there...
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AfterDawn Addict
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25. February 2004 @ 12:14 |
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Yeah, try to stick to the Brand Names that people are familiar with.
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scott_b
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25. February 2004 @ 13:38 |
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Hi, have just read through this thread and have learn't a lot!
I got packard bell DVD+r and +rws from my local dixons store. This was only because i had just got my Optrite burner and couldn't wait to test it! I wasn't aware of the influence the media had on the quality.
Anyway, the +rws played video on the xbox, but not on my other samsung or pioneer standalone player. the +rs played on everything but the xbox!
Now some of them are atarting to jump towards the end of the films and are not as good quality.
Should i get Ritek G04 DVD-R x4?
I don't mind paying for them - i just want something that will allow me to backup my dvds properly. I also live in Northern Ireland, so i can easily use www.dvd-and-media.com
Any advice???
Scott
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25. February 2004 @ 14:29 |
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Yes, I would tend to use Ritek discs, the reason for the skipping was poor dye nearer the end of the discs you have. As long as your DVD Writer accepts -R, which i presume it does, then using the Clone Disc at Simons store (www.dvd-and-media.com) will be good. Simon is MR Yang on this forum by the way.
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DaOsT
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25. February 2004 @ 16:33 |
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Yeah ya media aint up to the standard n dixons prices
wwoooooo shit they dear
Oriphus dunno Mr yang yet but if his name is respected on these forums he sure earnt it
DaOsT
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scott_b
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26. February 2004 @ 03:47 |
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I ordered some Arita DVD-R 4x made by Ritek.
R these ok, or would i be best to change my order to the ones u mentioned - clone?
cheers
Scott
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Benyang
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26. February 2004 @ 04:29 |
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Arita DVD-R 4x is made by Ritek, Arita brand has overprinting and one printing, normally the quality is still good. Some OEM brand said Ritek GO4 dye price more cheaper than normal, you must be careful........
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scott_b
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26. February 2004 @ 05:06 |
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I bought these from Dr Yang (dvd-and-media.com) so surely they will be the proper ones.
They will be ok won't they?
Scott
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26. February 2004 @ 05:39 |
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Yeah, they are fine. The Arita Brand is actually owned by Ritek along with RiDATA and Traxdata. They are decent discs, though at the price of the Clone Disc i wouldve gone for them.
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MrYang
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26. February 2004 @ 06:43 |
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Hi Guys and girls,
ANyone who wants to know about any dvdr media i have no problem if you contact me directly, the reason for Ritek prices dropping so fast was Ritek just took the decision to try and grab back a bigger share of the market which was taken from them by cheaper brands like Princo. Be careful though still certain companies will buy some A grade ritek and mix lesser grade media in with it.
The reason the CloneDisc gives a better result is that the surface is white printable and this act like a mirror backing ... the laser reflects better and more uniformly on these discs, branded versions like Traxdata and Ridata are the same discs so they should perform the same but it seems that the same thing happens with CDR ... the plain white top discs tend to perform slightly better but it is marginal. The other thing is if your looking for the really professional finish where you just look exactly like the original then using the printable disc gives you that option... but I would say that because I sell them. People dont complain about my discs because we dont sell any crap!! EVER!!
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SCS+
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26. February 2004 @ 07:10 |
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Mr Yang, when you say Ritek want to take back a market share that is wrong, It is because one certain big distributor of disks ie bulkpaq and datasafe has been caught by Philips. Philips have a royalty that all people pay them a percentage of discs that comes into the country or anywhere else. The big disty has not paid this royalty and you will see red/orange blukpaq at next to nothing price. The disty has been fined and they need to pay Philips asap before they go to court thats why there are cheap discs around now!!!
Also Ritek Europe has complained to Ritek Taiwan about pricing where the big disty are mixing grades. So Ritek Taiwan will be having a level playing field on Ritek Discs, so the price will not vary much ie 20p a disc on any brand Ritek disc. So anyone buying RItek disc will get only grade A and nothing else. There maybe a few that escape the loop hole but I guarentee you this that all Ritek disc will be around about the same price by the end of March.
I have it on good authority because I will be going to CEbit in Germany to see Ritek Taiwan and Princo to discuss matters. This will be on the 17th till the 24th March.
My friends company is a major player in discs so I will going with him to see what is new!!!
I bet Mr Yang will be going am I right? Will I see you there at thr Ritek booth???
PIODATA 8X RITEK DISCS ARE THE BEST!!!
WWW.PIODATA.COM (BRAND NAME OF PIONEER)
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. February 2004 @ 07:11
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26. February 2004 @ 08:25 |
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Mr Yang has his contacts in Ritek, so i tend to listen to what he says. I also have a contact in Conrexx, European Distributors of Ritek and will be ascertaining their view on the price drops.
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LeeFields
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26. February 2004 @ 16:37 |
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I have been involved in many different, industry-changing times over the years in sectors that have nothing to do with computers. I got into movie backups about 4 months ago after my mate, who is in the film/TV editing biz, told me that we were now at a level where most folk could buy a DVD writer and 'backup' a movie. At that stage, he did not know enough to advise me further than X-copy and expensive TDK or Memorex DVD-R's, so off to the local Dixon?s I went. After thinking that everything was great (well, about 75%) even though I could only get my Sony DRU510 to burn at 2x, I still thought it was pretty cool. Then I found these forums, which opened the floodgates. The Sony and x-copy, after finding DVD Shrink, went back for a refund to fund my Pioneer 106D.Then I went through the whole media minefield to match cheapness with quality. Now as I said at the start of my reply, I have seen some major shifts in some industries, but I have never seen such massive growth in something, over such a relatively short space of time (well, not since the Playstation hit). What we are seeing is pure market pressure via competition and reputation, which is good for us, the consumer. More companies are getting switched on at putting better stuff out for cheaper, so pretty much soon we will see maybe three main brands at the top, while the rest struggle over the scraps at the bottom. I think most of us know that Ritek will be right up there, but only if they do not 'drop the baby' as it were, which is why we are seeing the pricing and tightening up of 'crap traders' selling rubbish mixed in with the good stuff. I truly welcome the idea of only a couple of Branded Ritek?s being available as official products, this would kill the only thing holding the brand back - bad reputation and saturation of inferior products. Bring it on, I?m ready to buy more!!
The Phantom Baw Flinger stikes again! Wuh Ha Ha!!
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MrYang
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27. February 2004 @ 01:09 |
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Yes SCS one certain distributor did get caught by Philips but it was settled out of court several weeks ago. It is true they need to pay their fine but its nothing like the amount Philips were demanding!! The annoying thing is that the particular distributor and we all know who I'm talking about, still continues to import unlicenced media .. if only I knew which port it was landing at they would be out of business like a shot!!!
Market presure is bringing the cost of discs down but it was a concious decision for Ritek to slash their prices overnight .. thing is this leaves a whole load of media all over the country which is overpriced ... new prices will be available in the next few days too, for example the Ritek DVD+R printable I will soon be selling under 50p which is a blinding price for this disc seeing as it records at 8x and is the exact same disc as Trax and Ridata.
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jase
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5. March 2004 @ 13:30 |
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Do you have any reports about the Silicon/e-net clobbering by Philips? Would make for interesting reading :)
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Riven
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23. March 2004 @ 03:15 |
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I am rather new to this. I have had my Burner a little over a week now, and as I said in This (1) thread I have been having quite a few problems. I got a set of 25 Datawrite Red V2, which has Manufactured by Datasafe Media on it. These Ones (2) I believe, though annoyingly that?s a few quid less than I paid for them.
Could these be the source of my problem? I managed to burn one disk that held some data on it, but as yet I have not been able to copy any movies onto it.
And in regards to the B grade disks, I am a little confused, are they selling the B?s as A?s? Is there any way to tell before you buy the disks?
Thanks in advance
Riv
1 - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/77457
2 - http://www.planetmicro.co.uk/product_info.asp?stockcode=M002134&source=planetprices
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LeeFields
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23. March 2004 @ 23:12 |
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The Datarite red top VII's are manufactured by Infodisk and are not Ritek. Infodisk can be quite rubbish. I have had batches of unbranded Infodisk that dont go right up to the end of the disk and the most recent crop of Datarite (I bought two packs to test at £7.99 each)are pretty low grade for movie backups. Aprox 1 in 2 have freezing faults all the way through but suprisingly enough the end of disk is not that bad?!?
The Phantom Baw Flinger stikes again! Wuh Ha Ha!!
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chas0039
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31. March 2004 @ 12:25 |
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jase
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5. April 2004 @ 08:03 |
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Careful with that site -- have a look at the whois for www.dvd-recordable.org, www.media-forums.net, www.datawrite.co.uk etc etc; they've been set up by the same people.
The orange overprint discs are essentially landscape discs overprinted with e-net's own branding, so why is the company now slating the un-overprinted landscapes? Fishy doesn't even begin to describe it......
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chas0039
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5. April 2004 @ 14:07 |
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Jase,
I am new at some of this so I would appreciate it if you would clarify what is fishy. I don't dispute it, I just am not clear and I don't want to pass on dubious information. FYI I am in the US and I was unfortunate enough to have purchased a batch of the exact discs they are writing about. Fifteen out of 100 had dye flaws, some up to 1/4 long. Something is going on with these media and it is outside of the UK as well. I went out and purchased a batch of silver matte G04s and have 0 problems (so far). TIA
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HUNWalker
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5. April 2004 @ 22:22 |
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jase, don't you think that the landscape is already overprinted? It was always, a year ago had some from them, only 2,4 and +. The same quality as Grade "A" orange. Bad.
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jase
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6. April 2004 @ 07:44 |
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Basically, one of the main Brit distros (the one mentioned all over this thread in fact) has rather close links with dvd-recordable.org, and therefore when they publish a report on bad discs you have to question why they are focusing on that one disc, especially when the same company are distributing the same disc with their own branding stamped over the top. I must clarify that the integrity of the writer of the article (Flash) is not in question, but that site has been guilty of putting out so much propaganda in the past I don't trust anything they say anymore.
As to the landscape discs, well I had a block of 100 and they were all OK (a couple were slightly scratched but I put that down to the shrink-wrap splitting in transit), but being reject stock a lot of the spindles won't be. They didn't look like overprints to me -- the orange colouring was definitely first generation. I was under the impression Ritek put this branding on all reject discs, before they're branded with OEM info. Otherwise what are Ritek doing putting brand-names on discs that have failed QC?
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chas0039
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6. April 2004 @ 17:37 |
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Thanks for the clarification. It certainly helps. Hopefully the ones I have not seen any errors on are OK.
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Dave22
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20. April 2004 @ 11:11 |
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Hello Mr Yang
I think you will find that the Postech G04 disk's are not a rip of of the Ritek Go4 Dye I think you will find that Ritek do not own the patent on G04 dye it is actually made by MCC and has been sold to ritek for their media. As we know Sony now have their own disk patent and are using the dye from MCC. as far as I know Postech are a company who are part of the Sony Corp and Sony Corp are linked with MMC so they are in effect using there own dye.
I have been a hardened Ritek fan for years and I have used them all Lead data, Princo, Pro disk and prior to the price drop in ritek I would have sworn by princo, you name it I have burnt it, and in all honesty it all has been hit and miss and I was at a computer fair down in Luton a few weeks ago and a guy there was selling these disk that I have never seen before he gave me 25 disks to test for him and it has to be said I am a convert and I never thought I would see the day I said this.
The printable surface is better than a Ritek and the disk quality is as good as if not better also the guy who gave them to me offers a no quibble warranty if it blows out he swaps it and this is backed up by Goallover now you show me one other comapny that does this.
I think that goallover have been given a hard time and are really a genuine threat to the ritek empire I hope that you will give these disks a try before running them down otherwise it would seem that you are a little more than just a ritek fan and gain in other ways,
yours sincerely,
a fan of good media whoever the dye belongs to
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