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22. November 2008 @ 21:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by furudders:
Hi i got banned i for gotto unplug my consol from the net and they banned my gametag i was playing gow2 but i didn't play it on line i just forgot to unplug my net so i just set a new gametag i have not been banned again yet.you say that every game you play is recorded on the consol can you get ride of these games?
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*Sighs* PLEASE! Provide us with more information! And just because you unplugged your internet DOESNT mean your xbox hasn't been logging what you've played! And what do you mean you set a new gametag? Your console wasn't banned? BTW, Were you running the NXE? Or the old dashboard and just updating to NXE? You need to provide more INFORMATION!

Edit: Gonna go suicidal and play Dead Space online. I'll report back if anything bad happens to my xbox :P

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vister
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22. November 2008 @ 21:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Kunoke:
The million dollar question is:

If we aren't already banned when we update to NXE, will they ban us if we start playing backups again? Or will they just leave us alone till the next wave?

I know people who have updated to NXE and are still playing backups with no problem so far...but if you ask me that is just asking to get banned later. Personally I'd rather wait for a new firmware to come out, just to play it safe.
yeah they banned me 2 weeks ago but i got another 360 who is waiting for the new flash 1.5. if you flash your 360 now its dangerous
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22. November 2008 @ 22:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
also wanted to add that i am outside of the us and got banned
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23. November 2008 @ 01:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi XPerryX no i am run the old dashboard but i just got crash bandicoot and when i wentto play it it said that my gametag could not log in and it said i was banned so i just made anew gametag and then i could save my game because when i had no gametag i could not save my game bythe way i have played dead space the internet was pluged in but i did not play online i never play online i have completed it ban good game should be more like it.
i have about 25 games and now my gametag is banned if i want to play them i will have to play them with an new gametag butthe good thing is i have finshed most of them and have sold the organils off now.
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23. November 2008 @ 05:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
why is everyone saying we need a new firmware no we dont 1.4 is fine the only problem is bad rips that people download thats all and if not playing yout games on live. well personally i think if a game is worthy enough to be risked to play on live well its good enough to pay Ģ40 for. but anyway yeah what should be released is a new programme such as xdvdxmulleter which is much more complex and can identify the weakest of bad rips. so basicali i just want to say 1.4 is fine because if it were the firmware which ms were detecting well we would all be banned at once

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23. November 2008 @ 06:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's something interesting, Im starting to think its in game updates that is getting us banned. Ive been playing online with new NXE. Just got MK vs DC and in abgx it said it was a bad rip, yet in mulleteer it said it was fine. Played online anyway. Went to play this morning and it said update was available. Now the strange thing was it did it for COD5 even though I had the latest update and I know there wasnt a new one made in the last day. Got my mate to check with legit copy and it didnt make him update!!
Also played suspect copy of dead space all day. Sort of trying to get banned now, but still going strong. Just cleared my cache and going to update COD5 from legit copy. il let you guys know if I get banned in the next day or two.
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23. November 2008 @ 07:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh and also, when i did the COD5 update the dvd rom went crazy and has to eject disc to get out of black screen. Game is on hard drive aswell!!
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23. November 2008 @ 08:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I got banned on the 13th..Benq drive 1.4 played all the dodgy releases etc lol

So now i'm in a situation where i have bought yes BOUGHT gears 2 along with a 360 ELITE...now i want to play midnight club, spiderman, mortal kombat vs DC, mirrors edge and all of the other sick games that are on my backup discs but only play gears online...do u think i should flash my 360? or wait.
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23. November 2008 @ 10:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Fang_K9z:
I got banned on the 13th..Benq drive 1.4 played all the dodgy releases etc lol

So now i'm in a situation where i have bought yes BOUGHT gears 2 along with a 360 ELITE...now i want to play midnight club, spiderman, mortal kombat vs DC, mirrors edge and all of the other sick games that are on my backup discs but only play gears online...do u think i should flash my 360? or wait.
Just invest in a second one, I've got a Lite-On 360 which is non-flashable, so I'm stuck with Gears 2 only, but I also have a second Hitachi 360 that I haven't hacked yet due to the current situation. I'm waiting on something from the mod scene before flashing. I hope they figure this out because I sure miss, Dead Space, Silent Hill:HC and the many other games I got :(
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23. November 2008 @ 10:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I donīt know why you keep buying new 360 when you get banned...

They banned you, itīs time to go to competition...I used backups to see if the games were worth buying, if they were, I bought them and played online...now that M$ banned me, I won't buy any other game or acessories for my 360, instead, I'll buy a PS3, I'll play original games online with it and use 360 only to play backup games.

M$ wonīt see any money from me ever;)

I think you should all do this, if people canīt play the games before buying them, whatīs the purpose to have a console...to play demos that suck and buy extremely expensive games that suck even more??not me...I'm not rich to throw away money...M$ lost a gold member and a frequent buyer of it's games (GOW are my favourite). Now, I'lll return my recently bought GOW 2 to the store and sell all my originals and sony will see the colour of my money...
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23. November 2008 @ 11:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Hoost:
I donīt know why you keep buying new 360 when you get banned...

They banned you, itīs time to go to competition...I used backups to see if the games were worth buying, if they were, I bought them and played online...now that M$ banned me, I won't buy any other game or acessories for my 360, instead, I'll buy a PS3, I'll play original games online with it and use 360 only to play backup games.

M$ wonīt see any money from me ever;)

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Ahhh; another "It's all MS's fault and not my own." post. You know what you were doing was wrong and did it anyway. Now you're ranting, telling us how to "show them" for banning people. Man up and take responsibility. You're no loss to MS. It sounds like they weren't making money from you to start with. And your actions to "show them"; go spend $460 instead of $260. Yep, that'll teach them to ban you.

Oh well, to each their own.
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23. November 2008 @ 11:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The only game I am playing with the New Experience is Gears of War 2 it is verified retail. I have already connected to live after playing it with a silver account. Is there any difference if I play the game with the Ethernet cord plugged in or is that increasing my chances. The way I see it the data is already being sent to Microsoft when I go online anyway. Also anyone have any free month of live gold I have around 8 donated 360's and I have decided to help find out how Microsoft is banning.
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23. November 2008 @ 13:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by Hoost:
I donīt know why you keep buying new 360 when you get banned...

They banned you, itīs time to go to competition...I used backups to see if the games were worth buying, if they were, I bought them and played online...now that M$ banned me, I won't buy any other game or acessories for my 360, instead, I'll buy a PS3, I'll play original games online with it and use 360 only to play backup games.

M$ wonīt see any money from me ever;)

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Ahhh; another "It's all MS's fault and not my own." post. You know what you were doing was wrong and did it anyway. Now you're ranting, telling us how to "show them" for banning people. Man up and take responsibility. You're no loss to MS. It sounds like they weren't making money from you to start with. And your actions to "show them"; go spend $460 instead of $260. Yep, that'll teach them to ban you.

Oh well, to each their own.
I supppose you earn money defending them...I tooke my reponsability...I got caught, so what? I think itīs stupid to stand for M$ and also buy a new 360...Do you think I bother not to play online?PS3 has online and itīs free...so, money itīs not a problem for me, but i spend it wisely...They were not making money with me?I have only one backup, Fifa 09, and have more than 20 originals, if this is not making money, what is?For your information, I never played a backup online and just wanted to see if fifa this year was really better than pes, to buy the original of one of them...they banned me?so now, i won't pay my gold subscription anymore and never buy a 360 original game...of course I'm not a losse for them, cause people like you keep defending them and instead of stay in your corner playing your own games, come here and be a responsible man...no one knows who you are, you won't have more friends or be respected because of your posts. So grow up...and stop beeing a jackass...M$ won't give a you the job of ass kissing.
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23. November 2008 @ 13:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Hoost:
I donīt know why you keep buying new 360 when you get banned...

They banned you, itīs time to go to competition...I used backups to see if the games were worth buying, if they were, I bought them and played online...now that M$ banned me, I won't buy any other game or acessories for my 360, instead, I'll buy a PS3, I'll play original games online with it and use 360 only to play backup games.

M$ wonīt see any money from me ever;)

I think you should all do this, if people canīt play the games before buying them, whatīs the purpose to have a console...to play demos that suck and buy extremely expensive games that suck even more??not me...I'm not rich to throw away money...M$ lost a gold member and a frequent buyer of it's games (GOW are my favourite). Now, I'lll return my recently bought GOW 2 to the store and sell all my originals and sony will see the colour of my money...
you seem to be missing the point that the PS3's online community and playability is absolute dog excretion compared to the 360. Plus it doesn't have Gears of war which is a really great online experience...if not thee greatest.

I think i'll wait a while before i decide to flash my new 360. Although i really want to play all the new backups lol especially MK vs DC
Hoost
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23. November 2008 @ 13:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Fang_K9z:
Originally posted by Hoost:
I donīt know why you keep buying new 360 when you get banned...

They banned you, itīs time to go to competition...I used backups to see if the games were worth buying, if they were, I bought them and played online...now that M$ banned me, I won't buy any other game or acessories for my 360, instead, I'll buy a PS3, I'll play original games online with it and use 360 only to play backup games.

M$ wonīt see any money from me ever;)

I think you should all do this, if people canīt play the games before buying them, whatīs the purpose to have a console...to play demos that suck and buy extremely expensive games that suck even more??not me...I'm not rich to throw away money...M$ lost a gold member and a frequent buyer of it's games (GOW are my favourite). Now, I'lll return my recently bought GOW 2 to the store and sell all my originals and sony will see the colour of my money...
you seem to be missing the point that the PS3's online community and playability is absolute dog excretion compared to the 360. Plus it doesn't have Gears of war which is a really great online experience...if not thee greatest.

I think i'll wait a while before i decide to flash my new 360. Although i really want to play all the new backups lol especially MK vs DC

And you know why donīt you...the monopoly of M$ makes everything that isnīt released from them...to work like sh...I didnīt buy this 360, it was won on a contest...I could simply buy a new one..but i won't, just because their attitude...Iīm absolutely sure that are people who modded their consoles and never played a original game...In my case, was the opposite...i put the fifa backup in my console and it didnīt work, maybe cause it wasnīt well burned..and because of that Iīm banned?so long M$, I love GOW, but i donīt play it online, I was going to...
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23. November 2008 @ 13:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What is it you don't like about playstation network?
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23. November 2008 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
bd911 i checked the link which u mentioned it appears to have gone you mentioned an arcade ver was banned with the lite on did it mention if it was the new version if it was then your quite right the firmware cannot be changed as the f/w chip is rom and cannot be wrote to is there a possability they spoofed a drive with the id

may i also ad i have been moddingg for a while (f/w only) and i never use the backups of my games on live only originals when i do play backups i take out the rj45 and then boot the backup touch wood i have never had any probs nor has anyone i know which leads to beleive the f/w cannot be detected and that the disc itself relays info back to m$ as the new dashboard enables game to be saved on the drive but still needs original game in drive to prove ownership also points me to that belief
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23. November 2008 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Any consistencies in the banned cases?

Right now it seems feasible that it's the games played and not the firmware that is responsible. Could it be something as simple as saved data (e.g.save games, achievements etc) present before the given release date been inspected by Microsoft?
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23. November 2008 @ 15:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Fangface7:
Could it be something as simple as saved data (e.g.save games, achievements etc) present before the given release date been inspected by Microsoft?
28 pages later and nothing concrete's been posted, though (bearing mind i know zilch about modding) i'm inclined to think it's to do with saved game data. Though after following 28 pages, most replies of which haven't been descriptive enough i might be wrong, i'm losing the will to live so have almost given up trying to follow the useful replies from the dross.

..Now if only people would start using their common sense and start posting enough detailed info instead of half the info needed to nail this one...



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23. November 2008 @ 15:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Hoost:


I supppose you earn money defending them...I tooke my reponsability...I got caught, so what? I think itīs stupid to stand for M$ and also buy a new 360...Do you think I bother not to play online?PS3 has online and itīs free...so, money itīs not a problem for me, but i spend it wisely...They were not making money with me?I have only one backup, Fifa 09, and have more than 20 originals, if this is not making money, what is?For your information, I never played a backup online and just wanted to see if fifa this year was really better than pes, to buy the original of one of them...they banned me?so now, i won't pay my gold subscription anymore and never buy a 360 original game...of course I'm not a losse for them, cause people like you keep defending them and instead of stay in your corner playing your own games, come here and be a responsible man...no one knows who you are, you won't have more friends or be respected because of your posts. So grow up...and stop beeing a jackass...M$ won't give a you the job of ass kissing.

Spoken like a 12 year old who needs to throw profanity around to show their maturity. I'm sorry you, and many others, were banned. But, unlike the others, you feel the need to come here and bitch and moan and complain about how MS has wronged you. Sorry, but you won't get no sympathy with that attitude.


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I used backups to see if the games were worth buying
then you say
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I have only one backup, Fifa 09, and have more than 20 originals
Well, which is it?

What about this.
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I think itīs stupid to stand for M$
Of course you think it's stupid now that you got banned. But it wasn't stupid before when you were getting away with it.

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cause people like you keep defending them
Care to backup this statment with proof? I'm failing to spot my posts defending MS. If anything, you are the one who sounds like some sort of salesman for Sony, coming here trying to drum up business with your posts of how everyone should switch to the competition.

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PS3 has online and itīs free...so, money itīs not a problem for me, but i spend it wisely
But yet, before you got banned, you gladly paid for LIVE and the 20 origianls you say you've purchased. And now, being wise, you'll go spend $400 for another console, which you didn't feel the need to purchase before you got banned. Is that really wise spending?

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I didnīt buy this 360, it was won on a contest...I could simply buy a new one..but i won't, just because their attitude
That's the best one. Their attitude? You sure didn't mind their "attitude" before you got caught.


The simple fact is if someone is going to come here and whine, then they're going to get called on it. Especially in a thread which has "no posts of "Oh POOR ME I'M BANNED", Stop it already, just the facts" in the title.

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23. November 2008 @ 15:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I flashed my 360 when iXtreme 1.41 came out for BenQ drives. Before that my console was unmodded. I have played numerous backups on and offline since then and for quite a while I didn't even know programs like Mulleter and abgx360 existed. Once I got Mulleter, I checked all of my backups and many of them weren't good rips, but I couldn't be bothered to reburn them. I downloaded the leaked version of NXE when that first hit the web and I unplugged the ethernet cable from my console at the same time.

When news of the bans started hitting the forums, I thought I must be banned for sure as I've played loads of backups online and many of them are bad rips. I connected the ethernet cable on the 19th, updated to NXE and I've been fine ever since.

If MS can detect either the firmware or bad game rips, I don't see how I've managed to slip through the net, unless the bans are still occuring and they haven't got round to smacking the ban hammer down on my head yet.

Also, I read a post elsewhere from a guy that only flashed his console a week before the bans started occuring, and he'd made one backup of a game he owns, checked it with Mulleter and it was fine, then he played it on and offline. He got banned the first day the ban wave kicked in and he was running 1.41 on a BenQ drive, the same as me. There seems to be no consistency in the bannings if I can get away with it and he can't, unless of course he wasn't telling the truth for some reason.

I have spent a lot of money on Live this year though. I've bought over 30 XBLA games, quite a bit of DLC and I've rented movies and stuff. Maybe MS thought "if we ban this guy, we're gonna lose money!". lol.

LOL@the guy above moaning at MS for banning people too. I guess they should have done nothing and let money just slip through their fingers. If you get banned, you only have yourself to blame. If it happens to me, well it was nice while it lasted, but I certainly won't be ranting and raving and going out to buy a PS3 (which ironically costs nearly 3 times as much as an Xbox 360 Arcade, which is all you need to get back up and running).
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23. November 2008 @ 15:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nice one funksoulb, interesting read & hope your luck holds out. I'm thinking that M$ have access to all the apps & Iso's we do so wouldn't it be relatively easy for them to find a chink in the armour and exploit us back? It could be something incredibly simple!

(If I use my hard drive from my modded 360 on a brand new unmodded 360 will I be banned again?)
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23. November 2008 @ 16:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by bhetrick:
Originally posted by Hoost:


I supppose you earn money defending them...I tooke my reponsability...I got caught, so what? I think itīs stupid to stand for M$ and also buy a new 360...Do you think I bother not to play online?PS3 has online and itīs free...so, money itīs not a problem for me, but i spend it wisely...They were not making money with me?I have only one backup, Fifa 09, and have more than 20 originals, if this is not making money, what is?For your information, I never played a backup online and just wanted to see if fifa this year was really better than pes, to buy the original of one of them...they banned me?so now, i won't pay my gold subscription anymore and never buy a 360 original game...of course I'm not a losse for them, cause people like you keep defending them and instead of stay in your corner playing your own games, come here and be a responsible man...no one knows who you are, you won't have more friends or be respected because of your posts. So grow up...and stop beeing a jackass...M$ won't give a you the job of ass kissing.

Spoken like a 12 year old who needs to throw profanity around to show their maturity. I'm sorry you, and many others, were banned. But, unlike the others, you feel the need to come here and bitch and moan and complain about how MS has wronged you. Sorry, but you won't get no sympathy with that attitude.


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I used backups to see if the games were worth buying
then you say
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I have only one backup, Fifa 09, and have more than 20 originals
Well, which is it?

What about this.
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I think itīs stupid to stand for M$
Of course you think it's stupid now that you got banned. But it wasn't stupid before when you were getting away with it.

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cause people like you keep defending them
Care to backup this statment with proof? I'm failing to spot my posts defending MS. If anything, you are the one who sounds like some sort of salesman for Sony, coming here trying to drum up business with your posts of how everyone should switch to the competition.

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PS3 has online and itīs free...so, money itīs not a problem for me, but i spend it wisely
But yet, before you got banned, you gladly paid for LIVE and the 20 origianls you say you've purchased. And now, being wise, you'll go spend $400 for another console, which you didn't feel the need to purchase before you got banned. Is that really wise spending?

I really like this comment.
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I didnīt buy this 360, it was won on a contest...I could simply buy a new one..but i won't, just because their attitude
That's the best one. Their attitude? You sure didn't mind their "attitude" before you got caught.


The simple fact is if someone is going to come here and whine, then they're going to get called on it. Especially in a thread which has "no posts of "Oh POOR ME I'M BANNED", Stop it already, just the facts" in the title.

Too much talk for nothing...I stick to what I said...If M$ keeps banning without any criteria, the only reason I see it's to increase sales...so when youīre banned and go out buy I new one...you're doing exactly what they want you to do...if everyone who was banned, didnīt buy a new one, at this time there wouldnīt be any ban hammer...When I said PS3, I could also say Wii or any other...for me it will be a PS3.

As the comment about the attitude, even before getting "caught" (I still donīt know why I was banned), I had the oppinion that everyone who were banned shouldn't buy a new one...Or do you think that the new price of ?189,90 of the Xbox 360 and the ban wave is a coincidence?

M$ is not a company that you should defend...the lawsuites of monopoly show what they are and they keep doing it if guys like you say that theyīre right...

To end this, do you think that someone that has a modded console, but pays his Xboxlive gold membership and buys original games to play online should be banned?For me...itīs killing the business...unless you buy a new one...which I think itīs not an smart idea...
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i play backups offline (cable out) i play backups for one reason i think games are way overpriced but as i want to be online and not banned if i like the game enough i will pay the price for an original i dont think it is down to game saves and updates or f/w as i update everything all the time and save all games i'm not banned nor have i ever been (fingers crossed) so in my opinion buy originals for online use if you like the game offline it can only be better online

also anyone bought the new mk vs dc game i was most unimpressed with the graphics doesn't seem as good as i thought it would be!
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23. November 2008 @ 16:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by creaky, snippet from the thread title:
Stop it already, just the facts
...if you don't all mind....



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