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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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biggermac
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28. April 2005 @ 20:44 |
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> And it also has a little light also, so you have to
> get so worked up about it anymore biggermac.
Well alleluia then.. But yes I got worked up about it.. I kept reading your posts as if anything that was said about BitTornado or it's status lights system was invisible to you.
Yep, as I understand it some people swear by Azureus and it is good. But I am also told that it will only work on Windows XP machines, and I was unaware of your situation.. and I of course I am familiar with BitTornado, and I can tell you from experience with my router (gone through a "B", now a "G") that the light status system works well because I have been firewalled quite a bit before I figured out what right settings to use.
> I'm now downloading at about 40kB/s. I've heard
> that you can get up to around 400 though... So,
> if any of you can tell me how I can bring my
> download speed up more, I would appreciate it
> greatly.
How long did you wait before you gave us that download figure? In case you are unaware, it takes a while to build up speed most of the time. .
Also I recommend going to a good TV show place and download a popular TV show where you have plenty of seeds and peers and then see what kind of speed that brings.. Something with like 16 seeds and 36 peers or better. If you are trying to retireve something not so populkar at them moment then you aren't going to have enough sources to do well.
40 KB/s is 320 Kbps (40 bytes a 8 bits). 320 KB/s is not very good if you have been downloading for over 45 minutes or so of a large torrent (like 720 MBs or 1.4 GBs). It also just depends..
At Suprnova when it used to be free I could never ever do better than 600 Kbps (like 70 KB/s), and 40 KB/s quite normal even at the fastest - I don't care how many seeds/peers...
Yet other places 1 Mbps (1000 Kbps/125 KB/s) was good, sometimes 2 Mbps - not often the 2 Mbps though. One time I got 3 Mbps. That 400 KB/s you posted is 3200 Kbps - faster than most people's cable (3000 Kbps). It depends on your upload rate too - strongly tied to uploading.. Generally speaking just having to put a label on it, let's say that you must be showing close to your maximum upload rate, and be halfway through the download, in order to be getting the best speed. (see, the more you can "pass around" the better - that's why it takes a while before you have enough to pass around to others).
Comcast just bettered the 250-up/3000-down (Kbps) to 400 up and 4000 down. This should be good for torrents - the up speed here being increased being the important one I would think, because it is going to be very very difficult to get your max download anyways with cable..
...big_mac-<at>-kicknet.net
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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redscorpi
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28. April 2005 @ 21:22 |
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yeah, craze, dont expect good download speeds with just 2 seeds and 3 peers. although sometimes the download speed can increase it will rarely happen with that small amount of seeds and peers.
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Craze
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29. April 2005 @ 03:00 |
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Yeah, I know about all that stuff. I'm just downloading something older at the moment. And yes, I waited for a while while downloading, that was my TOP SPEED for that torrent.
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ssggr
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29. April 2005 @ 08:12 |
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Hi everyone!
I'm getting desperate! I'm pretty new to bittorrent, but I've spent hours now reading about it. I have extremely low DL speed (around 10kbps) with an adsl modem with a speed of 750kbps. I used bitcomet at first, but now switched to ABC, and my DL speed has improved a little (it'll go up to 20kbps) but still not enough.
I don't have a router, simply a firewall, and the ports are open on that (I've checked). I tried increasing my upload speed, but that doesn't seem to make any difference.
I'm using:
CPU : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz 1799 MHz
RAM size : 253.79 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600).
I know I can DL faster with bittorent that 20kbps, but I'm about to lose my mind trying to figure out how... I would really appreciate any help from anyone
Thanks in advance
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redscorpi
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29. April 2005 @ 19:50 |
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ssggr, go to the Shields Up page to test the port and see if it's really open or blocked:
-copy and paste this link to the address bar and go to it:
https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
-hit "Proceed"
-scroll down and type the port in the blue box
-hit "User Specified Custom Port Probe"
-scroll down, if the port says "Stealth" the port is being blocked by firewall and this is probably why u are getting slow downloads.
If u dont think the port should say "Stealth" cuz u believe u really have it forwarded in ur firewall, know that Windows XP comes with a built in firewall and it could be causing the Shields Up test to return "Stealth". if u already have a separate firewall like u say than u really dont need the Windows Xp built-in firewall, so u can disable it. Here is how:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/learnmore/icf.mspx
(scroll down to where it says "To enable or disable Internet Connection Firewall" in bold)
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ssggr
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30. April 2005 @ 02:41 |
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redscorpi, thanks for answering. I checked my port in the site, and it came back open, and I turned my XP firewall off a long time ago (cuz it sucks!), so that's not it.
Any other ideas?
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redscorpi
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30. April 2005 @ 09:29 |
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does ABC have any signal that tells u if u are accepting connections or not? like, for example, Azureus and BitTornado have a cricly-light thingy. the reason im asking is because if this light is green then the problem has to do with the port. if its yellow than u're not accepting incoming connections and the problem HAS to do with the port. Are u sure ABC is using the same port u opened?
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ssggr
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30. April 2005 @ 10:51 |
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I checked the details of the file and it said there what port it's using. And that's the port I checked, which came back open. The light is green, and I'm assuming I do get connections, since I am DL, only slowly (I was trying to DL a torrent with a lot of seeds so that's also not the problem). Could it be anything else beside the port?
and thanks again for the help!
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biggermac
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30. April 2005 @ 11:58 |
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---------- You wrote:
I checked the details of the file and it said there what port it's using. And that's the port I checked, which came back open. The light is green, and I'm assuming I do get connections, since I am DL, only slowly (I was trying to DL a torrent with a lot of seeds so that's also not the problem). Could it be anything else beside the port?
and thanks again for the help!
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Hello.. I read up on the ABC torrent-getting program, amd it metnions it is an extension of BitTornado - something like that. Well, I use BitTornado myself and if you are getting a green light I'd say you are not firewalled. I've been through enough torrent stopping firewall problems on a home network using as a 2nd computer (workhorse torrenter).
And please excuse me if I am touching on sopmething you already know or have tried.
With BitTornado you can use any port or range of ports up to 60,000 and I assume that ABC can do the same if it was written from BitTornado - just for fun, have you tried changing the operating port or port range? LIke try 17131 or something? With BitTornado changing any config only works the next time you fore it up, so if you change the port configuration a good idea would be to close ABC.
And you say your download max is 750 Kbps for your DSL? I am unfamiliar with DSL - what is the upload speed your DSL provider says that you have? dow2nloads are very dependent on uploads - and, I hope you are not only giving it 5 or 10 minutes and then saying I only get 20 Kbps. It takers a while to grab enough stuff so you have enough to upload to others.
Set max upload in hte program to 80% of what your DSL provider says isw what they give you.
KB/s and kbps is not the same thing = BitTornado and probably other torrent programs report in KB/s (KBps) not Kbps (small "b" and large "B")- one means bytes the other bits. One bit = 8 bytes. 20 KB/s = 160 Kbps (still not very good though).
By the way, if you have available Comcast cable, their new speeds are 4000 Kbps download and 400 Kbps upload. So if you have their cable TV, their cable Internet rate is reasonable - and (I hate them for this - it is extortion because they have a monopoly here) if do not have cable TV then you pay like 25% more for Internet through cable.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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Craze
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30. April 2005 @ 19:27 |
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Well... Plainly put. I think my problem was that I needed a completely new bittorrent client thing. My old one was most likely outdated. Thank you for your help guys. With a more popular torrent I was able to get up to around 130 kB/s. I was impressed.
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chibiama
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2. May 2005 @ 15:33 |
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ummmmmm...... i have no idea what you guys are talking about, and my average dl speed is about...... 5 kbs..... and i want it to go faster, and im only 14, so i know html coding and a few dos commands and thats about it. i. need. help. badly... cuz im sick of dls taking 7-8 hours... and so if you guys could... ya know... help me, that'd be great. and try to use terms that actually make sense to me. or you could just teleport over here and then do it... either one will work. and fyi, am using bittorrent client v.3.4.2, if that helps with anything.
tanku
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wannaknow
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2. May 2005 @ 18:50 |
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hello everyone... i replied coz i hav the same prob and its driving me nuts.... im 15 and i dont know how to port forward though i had already read alot of portforwarding guides... i dont know wat to do with my connection... i hav dsl and i my XP firewall thing is not activated.... my Azureus downloads sooooo slow!!?!?!? my gosh! this is driving me coo-coo!!! pls help me.... i hav speedstream5100 siemens modem... pls... if anyone can help me,... pls.... i need it.... i beg everyone. i know this type of question is goin in circles.... im sorry about that but i really dont know wat to do.... pls... help me.
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redscorpi
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2. May 2005 @ 20:48 |
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There is really not a lot to understand. Basically what it is is this: in order to download stuff u have to connect to other computers. u connect to other computers through these things called "ports". Ports are numbers ranging from 1 to 65000 or something like that. Bittorrent programs use only one of these ports. BT programs refer to this port as the "Listen Port". The most famous one being 6881. Firewalls and routers block ports (understandably for security reasons). if the port being used by the bittorrent program is blocked, u cannot connect to other computers and ur download speed will, of course, be low.
What u have to do is unblock that port being used by the BT program so that u can connect to more computers. to unblock a port u have to go to ur firewall or router settings. unblocking a port is refered to as port forwarding. To see which port ur BT client is using go to its options. again, the port is refered to as the "Listen Port" and it's probably listed in the options as that. the classical bittorrent client, i think, does not have options available so u should download one of the other clients which do have options. clients like for example: Azureus, BitComet, ABC, BitTornado, BitLord, etc.
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biggermac
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3. May 2005 @ 00:17 |
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hello everyone... i replied coz i hav the same prob and its driving me nuts.... im 15 and i dont know how to port forward though i had already read alot of portforwarding guides... i dont know wat to do with my connection... i hav dsl and i my XP firewall thing is not activated.... my Azureus downloads sooooo slow!!?!?!? my gosh! this is driving me coo-coo!!! pls help me.... i hav speedstream5100 siemens modem... pls... if anyone can help me,... pls.... i need it.... i beg everyone. i know this type of question is goin in circles.... im sorry about that but i really dont know wat to do.... pls... help me.
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Man you are going to have to do a lot of this on your own. Go back 3 pages and read towards this one. There is some great hints there in some of the messages. Can't go through the suggestions again - and you haven't told us much either - what is upload speed set to, what is your max up and down speeds, etc.
You should not even need to port forward if you do not have a router. Windows XP should exclude your torrent program completely. All ports are open then - same as if all are port forwarded. Howmany others are sharing thre filecwith you?
I only know BitTornado, not Azureus. if you try BitTorndo, then I can help - tell me what color the "light' is when you are connected and sharing. Let it go for asn hour. If it is a green light then you are OK and have to look elseware for a setting or something.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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ssggr
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3. May 2005 @ 05:01 |
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Thanks to anyone who tried to help. We installed a new router and a wireless network, I opened all the ports on the router and the DL speed went up to 60kb/s. I guess I'll just settle for this speed...
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biggermac
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3. May 2005 @ 06:14 |
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> Thanks to anyone who tried to help. We installed a new router and
> a wireless network, I opened all the ports on the router and the
> DL speed went up to 60kb/s. I guess I'll just settle for this
> speed...
You don't need to open "all of the ports". Only the ports the torrent getting program you are using wants to use. BitTorrent had their own set of set ports - somewhere in the 6000 range if I recalled correctly. I think 6881-6899 (??). BitTornado - you could name any up to 60,000. Or perhaps best any between 10,000 and 60,000. I have been using ports like 17113 and 17114. I just picked 'em out of the blue.. On my P3, the computer that I prefer as a torrent getter because then my main computer is not tied up or slowed by downloading torrents in the background, I set it to something like 6889 (I cannot remember, but the light becomes green and the speed is OK.
By port forwarding all ports, you have basically destroyed the hardware firewall of the router, which would come in handy for Internet use anyway.. You could just run the router as a firewall and not even use a software firewall if you wanted to. Which is what we do here on our home network for two P3s running older Windows versions (no firewall program)..
Actually 60 KB/s is not bad. 60 KB/s is 60 x 8, or 480 Kbps. This could be just a smaller supported tracker. It all depends which is weird - I just downloaded the TV show "Medium" I missed Monday. It had 9 seeds and 32 peers last I looked., Then I looked halfway through the download and I was doing about 550 Kbps, reported from an independent freeware program (Netmeter), and BitTornado was at like 65 - 68 KB/s. Then I could be grabbing a movie (hehehhe of course a legal non copyrighted movie - I'd never get an illegal one)have less in the Network and be getting 1 Mbps (1000 Kbps/125 KB/s). So I can't explain why some are faster than others beyond needing to have a good amount of people sharing.
You guys need to go out and buy a used Pentium 3 for like $100 complete with monitor... Even a 500 MHz one can handle it - use it to get stuff on your home network. Start a download, make sure you start seeing some seeds and peers, green light all is good, then forget about it for several hours. Then later just transfer what you got to your main computer.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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ssggr
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3. May 2005 @ 06:23 |
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Thanks biggermac, that's what I meant, I only opened 2 ports. The reason I'm thinking 60kb/s is slow since I DL the new 24 epp, which had over 7000 seeds, so I expected at least 90kb/s speed. But, I was getting nothing over 20kb/s before, so I'll shut up :-)
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biggermac
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3. May 2005 @ 07:32 |
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> Thanks biggermac, that's what I meant, I only opened 2 ports. The
> reason I'm thinking 60kb/s is slow since I DL the new 24 epp,
> which had over 7000 seeds, so I expected at least 90kb/s speed.
> But, I was getting nothing over 20kb/s before, so I'll shut up :-)
Well just try several downloads in the next whatever days or weeks - if you never get above that all the way through then maybe there is a problem.
I am thinking myself of cutting back my upload speed to see if I can do a bit better - seems like since Comcast went from 250 up/3000 down to 400 up/4000 down, and I then upped my upload settings in BitTornado appropriately (80% of 400 up is 40 Kbps or 320 kbps), my downloading seems slower than before - but I need to try a different source with good sharing numbers before I get weirdo with my adjustement.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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chibiama
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3. May 2005 @ 14:56 |
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ok. what i did was go into the actual windows firewall preferences, and im typing in all of the seperate ports to not block through the fire wall, but is there a faster way to do that besides typing in each individual port?
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biggermac
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4. May 2005 @ 01:39 |
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> ok. what i did was go into the actual windows firewall
> preferences, and im typing in all of the seperate ports
> to not block through the fire wall, but is there a faster
> way to do that besides typing in each individual port?
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I do not even know if you are talking about using just your DSL or cable modem, or if you are talking using a router on a home network.
But I am assuming no router - just Windows firewall - look there is an "Exclude" command in the security settings - just set the exclude command in Windows XP's SP2 firewall to exclude BitTornado - It should already have done it automatically. It did for me anyway. Don't port forward or shut off ports..
It would be easy if you tried BitTornado not BitTorrent because you get a warning light system (colored lights)in BitTornado - and this will help narrow down your problem.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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wannaknow
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5. May 2005 @ 06:04 |
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up and down speed is at 0(for unlimited)... i also hav bittorent but i hardly use it...
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biggermac
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5. May 2005 @ 10:48 |
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> up and down speed is at 0(for unlimited)... i also hav
> bittorent but i hardly use it...
Well there you go. This is one thing I forgot to mention because it was the 1st thing I changed and it became default when starting up BitTornado.. I changed it obviously because I saw problems right off the bat. Do not use the "unlimited" setting. In any setting in any of the configuration areas. But especially not in the opening window there where it has "max connections" & "up speed". (BitTornado). Crap - maybe this has been the problem all along (cross your fingers)...
Set the limit to low speed broadband. All this does then is place into default new limits, like 13 up and 4 connections. Then once connected, change to up speed to say 25 (25 KB/s) if your up speed is 250 Kbps which is the "80% of" thing mentioned many times. Or of your up speed max is 400 Kbps (which is 50 KB/s), then set that to 40 (40 KB/s - again, the 80% setting - in fact I'd even pull back here myself and make the setting 38 or even 36 for cable because speed fluctuates with users in the circuit - DSL does not I don't think). Ss far as I understand this, leave connections at 4.
Also, enter in this stuff on the other page that saves the info too so next time it'll be default when you start up BitTornado. Any program that has "unlimited" one of the 1st things I'd do is change the settings manually.
And I'd even enter a max download speed in those windows that want it (there are a couple of 'em).You will probably never see much anything over 2 Mbps anyway even if you have 4000 (4 Mbps) down like I do with cable (though once I'd swear I saw 3 Mbps).
...big_mac-<at>-kicknet.net
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astrosoup
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5. May 2005 @ 13:04 |
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I bypassed my router, disabled my firewall, and turned off my anti-virus program. Shields up still said my ports are in stealth mode. I plugged my firewall back in and opened up ports 53000-53100, and shields up still says that port 53000 is in stealth. Am I missing something? What is hiding my ports?
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redscorpi
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5. May 2005 @ 13:18 |
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biggermac
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5. May 2005 @ 13:20 |
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> I bypassed my router, disabled my firewall, and turned off my anti-
> virus program. Shields up still said my ports are in stealth mode.
> I plugged my firewall back in and opened up ports 53000-53100, and
> shields up still says that port 53000 is in stealth. Am I missing
> something? What is hiding my ports?
Hello astro.. You are new to this thread?
I am no expert - I only know what I can do with my Netgear router and what settings to use in it and in my torrent-getting program. use BitTornado, not BitTorrent.
Bit Tornado has a "warning light" system that lets you know the status of your connection when hooked into a tracker (sharing with others). There are other torrent programs that have a light system like this too.
You are going to have top spend some time and let us know all of the stuff - I don't even know what router - I don't know what "stealth mode" is in a router.
What program do you use, what router, what settings in the program you use (up speed setting, conections, etc).
Those port number you wrote - what torrent program uses those? Or were you just metioning those as an eample of your router and stealth mode?
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