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Craze
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20. April 2005 @ 15:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For some reason or another that doesn't seem to be working for me. Hehe... I seem to be
having a problem finding the ip address also... I had it written somewhere around my
computer, but I think the paper had been thrown away. That will be a somewhat of an
inconvenience for me.

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redscorpi
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20. April 2005 @ 17:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmm, well if macs use windows, (i really have no clue about macs lol) u can go to Start, Run, type "command". when u get a dos windows type "ipconfig". note the line that says "Default Gateway" and type the corresponding IP into an address bar to see if that takes u to the modem settings.
for me using "launchmodem" or that IP address work the same. they both take me to the same settings.
Craze
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20. April 2005 @ 18:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, we aren't getting anywhere are we. This mac doesn't have a run command and typing in 192.168.1.1 or "launchmodem" doesn't work either.
Craze
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20. April 2005 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hahaha! I'm making you think now aren't I? I'm sorry to have done this to you if you've been thinking too hard.
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20. April 2005 @ 19:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi folks. Just thought I'd mention this for you who have routers or not, and are wondering about download speeds..

First, I use BitTornado, not BitTorrent. Basics should be the same. gear router on a home network.. here are some settings and basics I have figured out and also after reading some about it.

With BitTorrent and a router, I think you have to set the ports that you port forward in your router to 6881 to 6889.

But with BitTornado - you pick'em it'll do it. I use a couple of ports in the 17000 range. Actually you could just set it to use one port, like 17125 if you wanted. Also if using Windows SP2 firewall in conjunction with the router, or even without a router, make sure you click the "exclude" command and make sure it is listed to exclude your torrent-getting program.

If you port forward like I do, forget about turning on UPnP. or is it UP&P? Especially if you use an old computer like a P3 & windows 98 se.. If you have a 2nd computer like I do on the network and use it to get torrents (good idea - don't tie up the main computer's CPU), you have to set it up to port forward a different port than the other machine - that's why BitTornado is good because you can set it to use any ports. Now, the previous netgear router I never did have to set up separate ports for the 2nd machine. This one I do - so, I can get torrents with either machine now. So - don't turn on UPnP in your router, nor in the torrent program if you port forward.. Maybe even if you are not behind a router and have set the firewall to excude your torrent program..

BitTornado has a yellow/green/red/blue light that comes on and means something - if you always have a yellow light - your router is blocking the ports somehow - or something is messed up. It should turn green after a few minutes of being connected.

Slow slow at 1st. up speed and down speed.. After a bit of time you hit a certain size and you begin sharing and up speed goes up and with that down speed too.. little by little increasing.

Set up speed to 80% of your capability - not 100%! If you have a 250 Kbps up speed capability, then set to 25 Kb/s (confusing, KB/s, or even KBps with a capital "B" is bytes - 8 bytes = a bit, so 25 KBps (25 kiloBYTES per second)or same thing is 25 KB/s, which = 25 x 8, or 200 Kbps (kiloBITS per second). If you set it higher than 80% of your Internet allotted speed, your download speed will suffer..

Some torrents are just plain faster than others - even though yes, the more seeds the better and the more peers the better up to a point - I don't know how or why differences.. The other day I got the 1st installment of the miniseries "Revelations". and I hit over 2 Mbps (2000 Kbps or 250 KB/s) for a lot of it. But right now I am getting an older series 1st episode, "The 4400", OK less peers at 17, but 13 seeds - should be good, but I am just now approaching 500 Kbps and that is all I think I am going to get.. it's been a while.. whoops, over 500 kbps now. BTW I recommend getting the freeware NetMeter (one word, not Net meter), get the "stable version" not the other, and it pops up whenever you are downloading or uploading, and reports your speed. You can set it up to tell you in Kbps or in KBps.. I prefer the older Kbps, ass in bits , like a dial up modem is 56 Kbps.

I have comcast cable and we now have 4000 down and 350 to 400 up.. used to be only 250 up and 3000 down.. great..

But even before with the 250 up/3000 down max. I could get 1 Mbps sometimes., and only 500 Kbps on other trackers..

Also the "max uploads" setting, I think the default "4" is good enough and setting it higher probably does not make any difference - I am not even sure what this does..
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...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
redscorpi
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21. April 2005 @ 11:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey its no prob. i can only help u with what i know, after that i can't help u further now can i.
why did u have to go on a buy a mac istead of a pc anyway huh lol jk.
Check this page out maybe it will help you:
http://sillysoft.net/hosting/routers_macip.php
You are looking for ur router's IP.
EDIT: if u get an Ad when u click on the link, click "Skip" on top-right hand corner.

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redscorpi
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21. April 2005 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
biggermac. setting the "max upload" to the right number IS important and it does make a difference. if u set it too low u are not sharing enough, thus ur download speed will be limited. if u set it too high its like saying u are drowning your bandwitdh or something, so ur download speed will go down. so setting the "max upload" option on the BT client will ensure u get maximum download speed possible for ur internet connectoin type.
if you divide ur max upload by 8 this is really saying what is the greatest amount at which u will be able to upload. setting "max upload" option to that will be a little be too much, so u wont get the maximum download speeds at which u can download. u should really set it to number a little bit LOWER than that.
Craze
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21. April 2005 @ 14:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hehe... Didn't work. Thank you for trying though. I'll come back here and say what I did if I ever figure it out. I was able to somehow get my download speed up to 10k/s, so that should help me out a little more. But, I'll be back in a few days probably and tell you if I figure out. Goodbye till then.
biggermac
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21. April 2005 @ 15:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the input on the "max uploads" setting.

I have messed around with it - in other words, watching the speed when changing it, and I couldn't see much going on different. Of course it could take 10 minutes for the effect to work, and I don't wait 10 minutes jusat watching..

I do know that if you have the BitTornado's "lower speed broadband" selected as default - all this does is pop into the field, which you can change, the download and max upload settings in the box itv is suggesting - so you can change it like I said. On this setting it "suggests" 4 max uploads and a 13 KB/s download. On the other hand if you select the high speed broadband, it suggests 40 KB/s download (320 kbps) and only 6 max uploads.. So in using my logic, it would seem to me then that 6 max uploads should be the limit(??)

Because this is suggesting 6 max with a 40 KB/s (320 Kbps) max uploadfor a 400 kbps max that your ISP tells you that you have (the seting to 80% thing being shown here)..

400 400 kbps is my new Comcast upload max, according to them. So I was just going by what the software was suggesting - I don't think most people have a 400 Kbps up speed capability.. Surely if 250 Kbps up, then maybe 5 max uploads, not 4...

Like I said, I am only going by what the software id suggesting.. And I was told a while back to leave it a 4 - but I also was told to both turn on UPnP and port forward at the same time, and I have discovered, at least for me and my Netgear router - and especially for my Windows 98 machine I sometimes use, that UPnP hurts not helps..

To be honest, I did not think "max uploads" has anything to do with who you are sharing with (uploading to). I was thinking it was in case you were running more than one torrent or something...

So I still don't know, even with your explanation. Can you tell me what exactly is going on with this setting? Are you saying hat I am only sharing part of the torrent (uploading to them) with only 4 others at a 4 setting?

Or is "max uploads" more like the "connections" setting in Bearshare Lite or like other P2P programs?

I want to ad in here that, at least with BitTornado, i would not use the "automatic" setting..
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...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org

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redscorpi
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21. April 2005 @ 19:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow, Craze, it didnt work? what do u mean? u weren't able to find the router's IP address using the instructions on the link? or u did find the router's Ip address but when u typed in the address bar it didn't take u anywhere?
redscorpi
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21. April 2005 @ 19:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
oh sorry biggermac, i miss-interpreted you. when you said "max upload" i thought u were refering to "Upload rate". i generalize too much sometimes and its been a while since i used BitTornado, lol, my bad.
Yeah, Max Uploads is like how many people (or peers) u are uploading to simultaneously. and u are right, its not that important.
what i was talking about in my last response to you was "Upload Rate" which IS important.
Craze
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22. April 2005 @ 03:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oh yeah, I should tell you how it didn't work shouldn't I. Yeah, It didn't take me anywhere when I typed in the router ip address in the address bar.
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26. April 2005 @ 09:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You all have to remember that your computers specs also affect your download rate ;)
If you have a lot open then it WILL be slow I reccomend having NOTHING but your client open. Set the priority to the highest and individualy set the files as highest.
Then CNTTRL+ALT+DEL then choose your client(for me it would be Bitlord.exe) right click on it then set priority>Realtime.
I ALWAYS do this. Hope it helps guys, ;)

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biggermac
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26. April 2005 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
> You all have to remember that your computers
> specs also affect your download rate ;)
> If you have a lot open then it WILL be slow
> I reccomend having NOTHING but your client
> open. Set the priority to the highest and
> individualy set the files as highest.
> Then CNTTRL+ALT+DEL then choose your client
> (for me it would be Bitlord.exe) right click
> on it then set priority>Realtime.
> I ALWAYS do this. Hope it helps guys, ;)
> -Mike

I seem to do the same, or close to it anyway, when doing other things in other Windows (Athlon 3200+ 768 MBs RAM). Of course I look at speed averages and it may not appear different until minutes later.

But, seeing as my reaction times when running other programs at the same time as BitTornado are sluggish with responses, or at least Windows functions can be very sluggish, I bought an old 600 MHz Pentium 3 and put it a home Network. The P3's only real function is to get torrents, then at some point I send whatever to my main computer. Who wants their main computer tied up for hours and hours retrieving torrents?

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Around here (San Jose/San Francisco bay area) P3's are a dime a dozen almost. A 500 or 600 MHz P3 can be had for less than $100. Since it's only doing one thing it is quite fast enough.

And a decent 17 inch CRT monitors can be $20 or $25.

And a router to run the home network = wireless B is even 11 Mbps or so which is 4 times a standard Internet cable connection - and that is wireless transfers, if you use an Ethernet cable it is faster. But you can't even find the B much in stores anymore - I got a Netgear wireless G 54 Mbps for $29 after rebates (cheap because wireless "super" G 108 Mbps is now so available and more or less the standard now).

So either way you look at it, it seems a good idea to use a second computer if you are a regular torrent getter.

And the bonus is that if you use a router, it is a hardware firewall - you are protected that much more. In fact except for the main computer using the SP2 firewall along with the router, the other computers on the home network (all older) - well, I don't even bother run any software firewalls. The router's hardware firewall is enough.

The only drawback to having a router/hardware firewall is that Torrent programs use ports - and thus you need to learn how to set up some open ports in the router. This is a good reason to use BitTornado too because it can use any ports you specify. And so, I have BitTornado on both computers, each set to use a different port (has to be set up that way in my router). Works like a charm once you know what settings to use.

...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org

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Craze
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27. April 2005 @ 17:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm... I still haven't figured it out yet. Limewire is downloading faster than my bittorrent! That doesn't make me very happy. Well, If I ever do figure it out, I'll be back to say what the problem was.
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28. April 2005 @ 11:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if u are gettinga yellow light u are going to have to find a way to forward ports so u can get a green light. im telling you thats going to increase ur download significantly. u have bellsouth dsl, u sshould be able to reach the router settings by typing in the routers Ip in an address bar. are u sure the instructions on link i gave dont work? are u sure u typed the corretct IP address on the address bar?
Craze
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28. April 2005 @ 11:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My bittorrent doesn't have any lights... I'm sure that if it did it could help me out a little in telling me whats going on. Do you think it would be wise for me to find a better bittorrent client thing and if so, what do you think would be the best choice?
biggermac
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28. April 2005 @ 12:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
> My bittorrent doesn't have any lights... I'm sure
> that if it did it could help me out a little in
> telling me whats going on. Do you think it would
> be wise for me to find a better bittorrent client
> thing and if so, what do you think would be the
>best choice?

I thought there was a new version of BitTorrent now? Well no matter - get BitTornado.. All is configurable, and you get the "colored lights" system. A yellow light most like means firewall problems = if you have a router this is your slow speed problem - see, you still can be connected with a firewall problem, but SSLLOOOWW.. - never improves

BitTornado also allows you to choose any port or range of ports to use up to port 60,000, unlike other torrent programs that have a set range of ports. Then you must check into your router and "port forward" at least one port, or if you selected a range of ports in BitTornado, then in the router do the same (but no need - one is enough). Port forwarding is punching a hole in the firewall so the program can work right.

Make sure if you run a software firewall that your torrent program is chosen as being excluded. (I run both types of firewalls my main computer, but on the torrent workhorse, a P3 running Windows 98 SE, I just use the router's firewall - no software - and that is another thing, BitTornado works on old Windows like Win 98.

And make sure you set your max upload speed to only 80% of your true max that your ISP says you have.

...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org

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Craze
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28. April 2005 @ 15:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, I just upgraded my bittorrent to BitTorrent OSX 3.2.2a, but it doesn't seem to have any lights of any kind. Is there a certain type of bittorrent you guys are using?
biggermac
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28. April 2005 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
> Well, I just upgraded my bittorrent to BitTorrent
> OSX 3.2.2a, but it doesn't seem to have any lights
> of any kind. Is there a certain type of bittorrent
> you guys are using?

Look. I don't know how else to put this. You are having problems. A torrent program that tells what might be a problem with colored lights might be the3 way to go - do you think???

So why do you keep idling on with BitTorrent when you are not one step closer too solving your problem? Why don't you just download BitTornado and try it? So we'll know. HOpefully. It can't hurt anyway. It looks like BitTorrent i am told.

And so if you get a yellow light - you have narrowed it down - or a green one says all is OK and so you better look elsewhere..

...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
Craze
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28. April 2005 @ 17:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I just downloaded it from that site! Arrg!!! It must be because you have a pc and not a mac. Hehe... Yeah... But anyways, thats what I'm trying to do here. I'm just trying to get at least one step closer.
Craze
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28. April 2005 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well... I just started trying out Azureus now. I would have to say that it works a lot better
than bittornado. And it also has a little light also, so you don't have to get so worked up
about it anymore biggermac. I'm now downloading at about 40kB/s. I've heard that you
can get up to around 400 though... So, if any of you can tell me how I can bring my
download speed up more, I would appreciate it greatly.

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Craze
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28. April 2005 @ 18:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
By the way, the light is green...
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28. April 2005 @ 19:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
great, light is green.
lol i know some ppl download at 400kBs but that's because they have a great internet connection type. u got dsl. they got Cable or T1 or whatever. im absoultely sure u are NOT gonna get up to 400Kbs download speeds with DSL. u want those speeds, switch to roadrunner cable, they's saying its three times faster than DSL.

u CAN improve ur download speed a little bit more though. how? by setting the "Max Upload Rate" option on Azureus to the correct amount.
i explain how to find the best amount for the "max upload rate" option here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/13/89259
Just do the things in number 1)

if u dont understand something, ask me.
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Craze
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28. April 2005 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That's exactly what I did as soon as I got Azureus. It would most likely help if there were more people to download from and more people uploading from me. For the thing I am downloading right now, there are 2 seeds and 3 peers... Not a very good number of people. But I'd have to admit, it would be nice to have that roadrunner cable. That would seriously be helping me out here.
 
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