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ScubaPete
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Hi racviac,
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I keep getting this awful "cyclic redundancy check" error message during DVD analisys with DVDShrink 3.1.3,
First off, update your DVD Shrink.
Next, If you read any of our threads you'd see that Shrink cannot alwasy rip every DVD. Sometimes you need to use DVD Decrypter in the file mode then open it and process it as usual. BTW, you never said what DVD you were working with ? ?
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while the movie playback is sloppy and freezes very often.
What media are you using ?
What guide are you using ?
How much editing are you doing ?
Pete
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1. January 2005 @ 13:25 |
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Hi Scuba Pete,
It seems that CloneDVD isn't quite the magic cure-
all. Like ShrinkDVD it wasn't able to deal with
the Star Wars bonus disc -- and I've been seeing a
number of bad rips from certain DVDs processed via
CloneDVD: eg, The Animatrix and Princess Mononoke.
(Whereas, while certain pre v3.2 ShrinkDVD backups
were not always totally crisp I don't recall seeing
bad data artifacts on playback...)
I also noticed an even stranger phenom: CloneDVD
installed on 2 different systems sometimes would
process a disc on one box, but not on the other --
yet both systems had the same OS and DVD burners...
Go figure?
Do you have any other reccos for commercial s/w for
DVD backups besides CloneDVD? In the meantime, I'm
gonna stick with ShrinkDVD for all backups unless
it has issues again with basic processing. ('Sides
who can argue with a price of $0 for great s/w!? :)
Thx!
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3. January 2005 @ 13:20 |
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hoogs,
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who can argue with a price of $0 for great s/w!? :)
Toss DVD Decrypter in there also. As it was designed to process Proected Sectors with a List (PSL) for different encryptions it was one of the 3 ways to rip RE 2 and Little Black Book. 2 excellent proggys for the total cost of $0.
Here is the majority of proggys I like to play with There are 2 or 3 not listed here yet -
Keeping each set of programs and their settings separated is very important. Too many choices cause confusion and lead to coasters :-(
With all the tools you have, don't confuse which order you should use when using which programs.
As a matter of fact, I believe you should print out a recipe for each set of Programs you use for burning - and their separate settings -
ScubaPete's program Rating Chart. (in no specific order)
DVD Shrink, Very good ripper, excellent for normal backups (using the Deep Analysis and Quality Enhancements)
DVD Decrypter, good for burning w/ DVD Shrink and excellent for problem rips.
Nero Ultra Edition, good to excellent suite of proggys - wide range of uses
DVD2One, excellent for joining "Flipper" DVD's and doing episodel work
Nero's recode2, excellent for custom editing DVD's, joining "flipper" DVD while keeping the menus
CopyToDVD, excellent for burning, considered the fastest burning proggy around
AnyDVD, the best "behind the scenes" DVD Ripper (can't do it all, still requires a backup ripper)
DVD43 (free), fair to medium for a "behind the scenes" ripper
CloneDVD2 (elby), very good for an encoder / burner when DVD's register 95% or better
CloneDVD 2(not elby), poor to fair doing anything. Not recommended
DVD XCopy, RF Platinum w/patch, fair to good for movie only. Not recommended, too many conflicts, discontinued
dvd Santa, fair to medium as an "all-in-one" rendering proggy
DVDCopy 2 (InterVideo), very good encoding / burning proggy, extremely fast
ScubaPete's Basic Cooking Recipes
FOR DVD-5's and DVD-9's
1. DVD Shrink (ver. 3.2) ISO mode + DVD Decrypter, ISO write mode (FREE)
2. DVD Shrink (ver 3.2) + Nero (ver 6, Ultra Edition)
3. DVD Shrink (ver 3.2) + CopyToDVD
4. AnyDVD or DVD43 + DVD2One + CopyToDVD
5. AnyDVD or DVD43 + CloneDVD2 (elby)
6. AnyDVD or DVD43 + Nero Recode 2
For DVD-5's ONLY
7. DVD Decrypter in the ISO read mode + DVD Decrypter in the ISO write mode
8. AnyDVD or DVD43 + Nero Express (copy Disc to Disc)
FOR DVD-5's and DVD-9's
9. DVD XCopy Xpress (Pre RF versions) (ver. 2.5.1, 3.0, 3.2.1) + Gone321
10. DVD XCopy Original (ver 1.5.0, 1.5.2) - (Pre RF versions)
11. DVD XCopy Platinum (RF using the "321RIP" patch)
12. DVD Decrypter (File Mode) + DVDCopy2 (InterVideo - fast w/ excellent quality)
13. DVD Decrypter + dvd Santa
14. AnyDVD + dvd Santa
15. AnyDVD + CloneDVD (.net not elby)
(Little or no compression, it's a poor proggy, DO NOT PURCHASE)
PROGRAM LINKS (In order of popularity by Pete) :
DVD Shrink - http://www.dvdshrink.org/
DVD Decrypter - http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
Nero Ultra Edition Trial - http://www.ahead.de/us/nero6-ultraedition.php
Nero recode2 - http://www.ahead.de/us/632261771103079.php
AnyDVD - http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvd.html
DVD43 (Patin-cauffin Drivers, mid-page) - http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/
CopyToDVD (CopyToCD) - http://esales.element5.com/product.html?cart=1&productid=157972&languageid=1&affiliateid=70128#
CloneDVD2 (By elby) - http://www.elby.ch/en/products/clone_dvd/download.html
DVD2One - http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd-r_tools/dvd2one.cfm
InterVideo Copy 2 DVD - http://www.intervideo.com/jsp/InterVideoDVDCopy_Profile.jsp
dvd Santa - http://www.dvdsanta.com/features.htm
DVD XCopy - Unavailable - Not manufactured, Not supported.
DVD XCopy Xpress - Unavailable - Not manufactured, Not supported.
DVD XCopy Platinum - Unavailable - - Not manufactured, Not supported.
CloneDVD ver2 (by The Other Guys) - http://www.clonedvd.net/download.html
(IMHO, An extremely bad purchase.)
Enjoy,
Pete
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thanks for all this wonderful information and for taking the time to put it in a comprehensive guide. Quick question do know where there is a guide for DVDRemake?
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westend
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6. January 2005 @ 21:26 |
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Sorry All. I figured out that it basically meant that I just needed to open the dvd drive and close it and hit it again. Sorry for the post. I tried to delete it, but it would not let me.
Cheers all! Happy New Years!
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7. January 2005 @ 19:00 |
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@westend,
Though you cannot delete your post you can clickon the "edit" icon at the top right-hand side of your post then go in and remove almost everything you did type.
Usally when I screw up (and yes, it happens) I just type "OOps" and that's all there is to it - for the next time :)
Pete
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9. January 2005 @ 09:46 |
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Ok well need some help plz I have been copying moves no problem and all the sudden everytime I copy my move I can play it but if I want to reanalysis it it says data erroe (cyclic redundancy check)so what is my problem plz help me
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9. January 2005 @ 14:12 |
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my5angels,
You get that error when you use crappy media - try using something of a higher quality -
Pete
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LarGand
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25. January 2005 @ 10:35 |
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This is a great thread.
Pete, your suggestions work great. Thanks.
I did the rip using the DVD Decrypter settings recommended earlier and managed to get around the CRC error. But one one of the VOB files was blank (DVD Decrypter had inserted dummy sectors throughout). Ripping just that file did the same thing but when I cancelled and retried, I got the file (still got 1 dummy sector at the beginning though). Weird. Same thing happened on my laptop too. I hope it's a consistent work around if I ever have the same problem in the future.
Someone earlier mentioned that TMPGEnc can convert VOB files to jpegs. Is this TMPGEnc Plus? I tried it and while it doesn't recognize .VOB extensions, opening the VOB files anyways sometimes worked, sometimes didn't. Is there a specific version of TMPGEnc I should be using? I really just wanted to extract every 30th frame (to timelapse the video) so if anyone knows a program that will do this, please let me know.
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4. February 2005 @ 13:56 |
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So the dvd encrypter can forcably ignore the cyclic redundency check error on dvd's , my problem is on a cd , how can i extract ? can i choose instead of dvd a cd-r in the program or no?
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5. February 2005 @ 16:03 |
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LarGand,
When DVDD takes care of that "Dummy" VOB - you'll have a black screen prior to movie. I suggest using Recode2 in the Remake DVD Mode to edit it out and still maintain your full functioning menu.
@ Shortfuse,
It's what it did in this case. each case is different -
I suggest that you take your query to a forum dealing with CD's.
This is where you need to be . . .
http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/38
Cheers,
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6. February 2005 @ 11:48 |
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I am having the same problems w/ cyclic redundancy erros. It is not the disc. I belive it is some kind on new encryption that cannot be broken by the current version of shrink. The two DVDs so far that I have seen this type of error is "Little Black Book" and "The Forgotten". Unfortunately I cannot get around this error with any of my current buring programs.
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russt999,
Download the latest version of Decrypter and rip your movies to your hard drive with Decrypter in File mode first. Decrypter will handle the new encryption!!
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bbmayo,
Thanks for the tip. I have the latest version of Decrypter. Can you please give me the steps to follow in order to rip and then copy. I usually just use Shrink which does both.
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hoogs
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16. February 2005 @ 04:34 |
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Hey Scuba Pete!
I've been having platter read problems with DVD
Decrypter (I imagine it's the disc itself, but
I couldn't see any physical damage). I can't
put up a jpg of the error msg dialog, but the
text is below. I tried the Ignore button option
but it keeps coming back a bit later with more
of the same sort of read error message. Help!
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I/O Error!
Device: [1:1:0]_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A 1.06 (D:)
ASPI SRB Status: 0x04
Interpretation SRB Completed with Error
Host Adapter Status: 0x00
Interpretation: Host Adapter Did Not Detect An Error
Target Status: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition
CDB: 28 00 00 1F 46 B4 00 00 01 00
Interpretation Read (10) - Sector: 2049716
Sense Area: [...a huge string of hex numbers...]
Interpretation: No Seek Complete
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hoogs
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16. February 2005 @ 04:41 |
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Hey Scuba Pete!
I've been having platter read problems with DVD
Decrypter (I imagine it's the disc itself, but
I couldn't see any physical damage). I've posted
the error text below; here's a screencopy of it:
I tried the Ignore option but it keeps coming back
a bit later with more of the same read error msgs.
Help!
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I/O Error!
Device: [1:1:0]_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A 1.06 (D:)
ASPI SRB Status: 0x04
Interpretation SRB Completed with Error
Host Adapter Status: 0x00
Interpretation: Host Adapter Did Not Detect An Error
Target Status: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition
CDB: 28 00 00 1F 46 B4 00 00 01 00
Interpretation Read (10) - Sector: 2049716
Sense Area: [...a huge string of hex numbers...]
Interpretation: No Seek Complete
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Hi Hoogs,
an I/O error is almost always 100% of the time, problems with the disc. I just finished battling "The Scorpion King". I tried 2 separate discs (took the first back as defective) and no joy at my house. Finally I borrowed a copy from a friend's in a different province and it went right through. The bottom line, it was a bad batch from the Mfgr. So here are a few things you can try before changing discs -
First, let's start by Fine-Tuning DVD Decrypter
Let's take a moment to fine-tune your DVD Decrypter's settings. First, it should be version 3.5.2.0. Go to "Tools", "Settings", set everything to "Default". Then in the "General" tab change, "Removal Method" from "Normal" to "Aggressive", in "File Mode", "tick" Remove IFO/BUP PUO's." For ripping in the "ISO, Read Mode", "tick" "Remove IFO/BUP PUO's" there also. in the "CSS" tab, under "CSS Cracking Method", choose "Brute Force ~> I/O Key Exchange" and "On Failure" choose "Yes". . IMPORTANT: In the "I / O" tab, in the bottom right, "tick" the box which says, "Ignore read errors". This helps with some Mfgr defective discs and it is an excellent setting for dealing with lightly scratched discs which may cause reading problems. We're now finished with our settings here so click "OK." There's no reason to change these settings. DVDD is good ripper right out of the box, all we did is to give it some "teeth." (Lol :)
Under "Mode" we have a choice of either File or ISO Read to rip our DVD. For problematic DVD's I suggest ripping in the "File" MODE - IMPORTANT: Remake a folder and name it VIDEO_TS (just like that, case sensitive) to put your ripped files in. If you are ripping a multi-angled DVD OR an episodel disc I suggest ripping in the ISO MODE as that will copy every nuance of a DVD making an absolutely perfect copy. Now, go rip your happy heart out - :)
If you have never used DVDD before, take it out for a "spin" around the block, Check under the hood, Kick the tires and climb inside and smell that "New DVD Decrypter" "smell". Go home, talk it over with the wife and, if you feel in the morning the way you do now, come back and I'll put you behind the wheel of a Brand new DVD Decrypter at a price so low, you'll think it was free. Huuummm, come to think about it, it is FREE - Well, What are you waiting for ?
Remember to stop back and tell me how you feel about it once you've put some "mileage" on it -
OK, if you need the newest copy (released 05, Jan, 05. .Here it is - http://www.dvddecrypter.com/
For some extra "tricks" for your "Hard to rip" DVD's -
1. This is a bit "wacky" BUT it has worked for some pple. Rebooting your PC (cleaning out all the memory) allows some discs to be seen better - As I said, it can't hurt and it's worth a try -
2. Begin by playing your DVD with your PC's player. Play the main feature for two or three minutes then open DVD Shrink, DVD X Copy or your weapon of choice. - As soon as you begin your rip turn off your player so it doesn't interfere with your analyzing. The playing beforehand is only so that your ripping program can "Find" your DVD.
3. Here's a good fix. Compress your DVD to somewhere around 4.3GB instead of the recommended 4360MB. I.e., Go into DVD Shrink, "Edit", "Preferences" then set the "DVD Target Size" to "Custom" and enter 4300MB as the size. Reducing the amount of Data to be burned it keeps your burning away from the disc's edges where the dye on poor quality DVD discs tends to be uneven and may even be brittle and flaking. Nero, DVD2One and most good burning applications will allow you to set the, "DVD Target size".
4. You may reduce the number of errors and "artifacts" (the "freezing", "skipping" and other picture abnormalities) when burning poor media by burning at a reduced speed. It has been my experience that burning at 2.4X will succeed where faster burns will not. Don't be surprised if you have to burn at 1X. Some discs you're lucky to have it burn DVD Video at all. It will take longer but what the heck, you're saving money with those "Cheap" discs, who cares about time when you're saving $$$$ (Lol). Since you're compressing more it might be wise to burn just the movie, the less you burn the better the quality soooo, movie only, please.
5. The "Magic cleaning" technique: Try cleaning your DVD discs. Yea, I know they're new and clean but do it anyway. Do it a few seconds before inserting it into your DVD tray, use a disc cleaner, eyeglass cleaning solution or 99% Isopropyl Alcohol and a soft cotton cloth and rub-a-dub, dub. As soon as you're finished, "Pop" it into your DVD tray and fire up your program. You would be surprised how many times your disc is now "seen" and works like a "Bad Dog". :-)
NOW, if all of these fail I would put it down to a bad disc OR Mfgr error and return the disc for a replacement one. It may even be a regional problem affecting an entire batch. Though rare it has happened and should be considered. If this is so, buying a disc from another area OR, probably easier, wait some little time and exchange it again trying for a different batch.
I hope that helps,
Pete
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Great website. ScubaPete I have been reading over this form and found it interesting. I was wondering if you could answer a few question. Firstly, I am running WinXP Pro with a NEC DVD_RW_ND_1300A. Just updates the NEC firmware today. I started out burning about 2 years ago with DVDX copy. Yet letter learned there was much better software out there. May burner is very finicky about the median quality, so I usually use Memorex DVD ?R 4X. I recently just got a deal on some Verbatim DVD-R, so I grabbed them cause of the good name. btw, they work great. What I have been doing latly, is reading with DVD Decrypter, then burning a full backup with DVD Shrink. I also run DVD43 in the background. DVD43.com/" class="korostus" target="_blank">http://www.DVD43.com/
I recently backed up the new Ray movie (full disk). The movie worked great (selected theatrical play). While when I watched it again I selected extended version, which was terrible for skips and short freezes. , Is this not strange? I mean the one main file play great, while the other does not. Before watching it for the second time I was trying to make a second backup, which lead me to this page. I usually have problems making a copy of a copy. Now I the extended version may have been causing the problems. Yet I set decypter as per the suggestions on this page, making no difference.
I used to make a copy of the main movie file only, yet I switched because they backups did not play well on a friends plasma tv. (could have been her though).
Anyway, my final question: for playback quality, is it better to copy the entire disk, or just the main movie? I never watch extras anyway, so I was just wondering. I use decrypter to read, because I figure it is better for the encoding to take place off the hard drive, rather disk. Any quality comments would be greatly appreciated.
BTW: I make all my covers and for those trying to make, original looking backups. II first print the Labels, then spray them with Krylon picture preserve spray, before applying the label to the disk. Works great with ink jet and color laser printed labels. Gives a water resistant, glossy finish.
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Great website. ScubaPete I have been reading over this form and found it interesting. I was wondering if you could answer a few question. Firstly, I am running WinXP Pro with a NEC DVD_RW_ND_1300A. Just updates the NEC firmware today. I started out burning about 2 years ago with DVDX copy. Yet letter learned there was much better software out there. May burner is very finicky about the median quality, so I usually use Memorex DVD ?R 4X. I recently just got a deal on some Verbatim DVD-R, so I grabbed them cause of the good name. btw, they work great. What I have been doing latly, is reading with DVD Decrypter, then burning a full backup with DVD Shrink. I also run DVD43 in the background. DVD43.com/" class="korostus" target="_blank">http://www.DVD43.com/
I recently backed up the new Ray movie (full disk). The movie worked great (selected theatrical play). While when I watched it again I selected extended version, which was terrible for skips and short freezes. , Is this not strange? I mean the one main file play great, while the other does not. Before watching it for the second time I was trying to make a second backup, which lead me to this page. I usually have problems making a copy of a copy. Now I the extended version may have been causing the problems. Yet I set decypter as per the suggestions on this page, making no difference.
I used to make a copy of the main movie file only, yet I switched because they backups did not play well on a friends plasma tv. (could have been her though).
Anyway, my final question: for playback quality, is it better to copy the entire disk, or just the main movie? I never watch extras anyway, so I was just wondering. I use decrypter to read, because I figure it is better for the encoding to take place off the hard drive, rather disk. Any quality comments would be greatly appreciated.
BTW: I make all my covers and for those trying to make, original looking backups. II first print the Labels, then spray them with Krylon picture preserve spray, before applying the label to the disk. Works great with ink jet and color laser printed labels. Gives a water resistant, glossy finish.
http://www.krylon.com/main/product_template.cfm?levelid=5&sub_levelid=8&productid=1732&content=product_details
Thanks all.
Aaron
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aaronl,
You said a lot in your post but really only asked one question so here it goes..
The less compression the better the quality of your backup. So most of the time you will get a better quality backup if you only backup the main movie. However there are a few exceptions where you can back up the whole DVD with menus and all with very little or no compression, but there isnt very many like that maybe 1%.
As far as the problem with your extended version of Ray. What program did you use to back up the disk? You may have compressed that version more without realizing it thus causing the poor quality. I am pretty sure something had to be compressed a lot if you put both versions on one disk. Also this is probably closer to the outer edge of your disk, and if you are using poor quality media that could be another problem.
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Hi aaronl,
I'll be backing up "Ray " tomorrow and will know better BUT I will start out by saying - When I have DVD's, like the Butterfly Effect where there are two good endings (I liked the Director's better) I do the backups on 2 different DVD's. What you haven't mentioned is - are you backing up the second disc, the special features one ? I'm planning on doing 2 discs of the main feature, and just 1 disc of the Special Features because on this pic especially, I want the best quality - I loved Ray Charles and I want this around for a long, long time.
Anyway, I believe you might have put too much on your backup so you're getting artifacts - My thought is to use all of the quality settings in DVD Shrink - saying that, if that's what you did, I would then suggest that you use Nero's Recode2 to do your backup. Use it in the "Remake a DVD" MODE, pull just the main files and forget the rest. When you get done you'll have a nice backup with working menus. see the guide foe DVDD and Recode2 in my sig.
I also have a NEC1300A and had poor luck with -R media - I use 100% +R discs. RiData and Verbatim's. I have no problems with that at all.
Lastly, and this is a major concern, something you need to worry about - The dye on the discs we use is very sensitive. Sensitive to light to body oil and to solvents (You see where I'm headed don't you ?). Vapors in the air can ruin your discs. As a Chemical Coatings Specialist for Sherwin-Williams for 6 years I can tell you, when paints are applied and there is a drying time of - say 1 hour - there are vapors escaping from that paint film for the next 30-says and more AND that's IF there is plenty of air flow around the paint surface. Ask anyone who has ever had their car painted. They are told not to wash or wipe their cars for over a month because the paint hasn't cured (dried) yet. You're putting your discs in jewel cases and trapping the fumes around the dye - Be very careful - you may lose everything.
I use Neato Labels and the look great and have no fumes either UNLIKE using a marker on a disc to label it - many aren't aware of this problem BUT with you using paint (clear-coat, I imagine) you really should worry.
Anyway, you have my 2-cents on all topics, I hope I have been of some help -
Cheers,
Pete
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PLEASE HELP ME UNCLE SCUBA PETE!
Thanks to your "We're going ta burn a DVD backup right now, youngin's guide to backing up" I have backed up about 25 DVD's from my personal collection (no coasters - all full disks, no reauthoring), including many of the ones I'm always reading about people having trouble with: "Friday /night Lights", "The Punisher", "Little Black Book", and so forth with the following specs:
WinXP, 1.7Ghz Celeron, 384 MB Ram, 40 GB HD ~ 15 available, SOny DVDRW DRU-710A, DVD Shrink 3.2.0.15, DVD Decryptor (updated yesterday but unsure of the release number), AnyDVD 4.5.7.2.
My recent backup attempts included Star Wars Ret of the Jedi (movie and bonus disk) and Star Wars episode 4. First attempt was Return of the Jedi - perfect. Second attempt was the bonus mat'l disk. CRC error at 50% deep analysis phase. Tried Episode 4, CRC error at 50% deep analysis. Cleaned both disks very well. Same problem. Returned to store, new copies of both, again both hangup at 50% deep analysis.
Tried VOB blanker, but without success. Not sure if I was using the program correctly. Also tried file mode and ISO Read mode on DVDD. How is it possible I can have great success on any new DVD, and kick the butt of that little ugly kid running in green shorts, but not be able to burn freakin Star Wars? Also worthy of note - the bonus disk is in the same case as Ret of the Jedi, which burned perfectly.
Any ideas would be much appreciated??
Thanks uncle Scuba!
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20. February 2005 @ 16:59 |
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Hixbry,
Well the bad news -
A CRC is almost 100% a disc problem (baring that it's a drive problem).
You have to get some decent media -
You may possibly get a CRC error when trying to process a disc not ripped properly -
For problems with encryptions, see my sig -
For media - sit down there son, relax and "Uncle" ScubaPete will explain it to you ~
Let's take Memorex as an excellent example as DVD media goes, 90% of Memorex, made by CMC, is sub-standard as far as DVD backups are concerned, figures as high as 50% coasters have been reported (One member bought a stack of 50 and got 23 good burns.), not what I would call an impressive record. Memorex made a name for itself with their magnetic tapes (VHS and audio cassettes) and have been living off it ever since. There are 4 different companies that manufacture Memorex DVD's BTW and product quality varies widely as you might imagine. Only 10% of the Memorex out there, those are discs manufactured by Mitsubishi in the 25 pack spindle , and they're the exception ? they are the good ones. It's easy to see now why the quality of a big-named company can?t be trusted - ? Who?s making your Memorex tonight ??
Is it just Memorex ? No ! I just used Memorex as an example, Princo, Orange Pack, Great AZO and most "store" discs aren?t all that suitable as a DVD backup media ? that?s why we are specific in the type of media we are recommending.
1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, pixelats and may refuse to be recognized by both burners and players :-( Besides "Freezing", "skips" many times you?ll get a ?Cyclic Redundancy error? or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won?t accept your ?cheap? media :-(
Another problem which, ?Pops up? is a ?*Power Calibration Error?. This can stop you right in your tracks and most often is caused by, Yep, you guessed it, inexpensive media. *A ?Power Calibration Error? can also be attributed to the Optical Components of a DVD Writer, though this isn?t usually the case.
Orange Pack, Princo, Great AZO and 90% of Memorex plus many others are just not that good for DVD burning. Those same discs however, are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets and Data..Even DataSafe G04?s made by Ritek have been reported as an inferior quality media and are evoking that ?Oh no, I shouldn?t have gotten those.?
What we are suggesting is to download this DVD Identifier to find out who manufactured your DVD and if it's a decent quality.
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
Once you have your disc identified, click the "More information" icon and see what information you're given. if you're not sure of the quality, come on back and we'll check it out for you -
2. A good grade, Hi-quality media is needed for DVD reproduction ! RiData, Phillips, Sony, TDK, "Branded" Ritek G04's or "Branded" Verbatim Data Life, Verbatim DataLife plus, Taiyo Yuden's and generally, almost any discs manufactured by Mitsubishi or RICOH are excellent bets. Among the better discs we're looking for, any media boasting "Advanced Metal AZO" - BUT it must say "METAL" AZO !, this indicates a superior dye and dye application on a good composite disc, while they are sometimes a bit "pricey" they are just the type of media we're looking for to do our DVD backups, Prices online from Meritline.com OR Newegg.com have gotten Ritek G04 starting at about a $ .45 (USD) a disc ?
For DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media or even average media is a gamble, some people win BUT the majority lose, they lose varying amounts true but, they still lose :-(
Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty; it surely cannot hurt.
In an effort to clear the air, when I speak of "Cheap" or "Inexpensive" media, I'm not referring to the price you pay at the counter - I'm referring to poor quality control used during manufacturing and the quality of the dye, dye application or composite type used. I'm not saying it won't burn - Some may burn, some may not. It's quality is inconsistent, meaning it's not dependable. To make matters worse, many times the discs that you do burn may play in your PC BUT your standalone player may not accept them ? what good then is a backup DVD that cannot be watched on a DVD player ?
When I say "Branded," that means that when you pick up a disc in your hand, it says "Ritek" or "RiData" on the disc itself. The monetary cost of the media we recommend many times is cheaper than what you are purchasing now.
We like to verify our information prior to recommending things. There are certain things we look at. For instance, when their dye and dye application are listed as unknown, this almost guarantees us they are using whatever they can get at a cheap price. Companies that use quality materials like to BRAG about it, naming names and staying with quality manufacturers who produce their media.
Using DVD identifier and MediaMatch can help you find out a lot about what you're using. Purchasing your DVD media online can insure that you're getting quality merchandise at a good price. Shopping wisely will save you time, aggravation and money.
I hope that helps,
Cheers,
Pete
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