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DVD shrink Data Error (cyclic redundancy check)
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xbry
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21. February 2005 @ 05:53 |
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Thanks Pete!
I'll try ro figure out what kind of crappy disk the all-powerful movie companies used for the Star Wars disk. That is really sad if even the companies producing "high-quality" dvds are using crappy media. I guess for them it's all about the bottom line.
I finally had success last night backing up my Star Wars DVD. Here's what I was doing wrong:
On my previous attempt, under "ISO" "File" mode, I checked the box stating something to the effect of "ignore read errors". Then during decryption, DVDD appeared to get stuck. Being a newbie and the first time using anything other than DVD Shrink + DVDD ISO Write, I didn't know what to expect.
On my successful attempt, I also changed the "number of retries" (in the same dialog box as the "ignore read errors" command) to zero. Apparently the default was 20 retries. So actually the program didn't freeze, it was just retrying to read the bad sectors. By changing to zero, it worked just fine.
On another note, this process yields a list of unreadable sectors in the DVDD log. With this information, could these sector numbers be imported into DVD Shrink under "import Protected Sectors List", enabling the original process (DVDShrink + DVDD ISO Write)? Just for informational purposes, really, I got a good copy under DVDD File mode.
Also, a week or two ago I read one of your posts talking about quality of media and took your advice. Got a nice deal on a 100 pack of Sony DVD+R's. Pushing 30 backups and NO problems!
I read elsewhere you use Neato labels. How have these worked for you? Any peeling lables due to heat, etc.? Any disc balance problems, etc.?
Thanks again for your help!
Xbry
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ScubaPete
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21. February 2005 @ 13:12 |
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xbry,
I doubt that having the "ignore read errors" un-checked did anything to help your backup. By ignoring read errors it stops it from being stuck. HOWEVER, with Star Wars you did have to try a couple of times to rip that "Puppy" - it was just "Picky" is all - I remember it well (Lol)
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Any peeling lables due to heat, etc.? Any disc balance problems, etc.?
I did over 400 different DVD's this last year and the only problem I had was with the applicator which "slipped" twice. I find no problems - as long as you use an applicator - Attempting to put labels on by hand will defiantly permit them to be off balance and cause them to heat up your drive. Neato is a good product and I do recommend it.
For your discs - in order of best to worse -
1. Use printable discs (a disc printer needed)
2. Use a magic marker to write upon your DVD - NOTE: the solvents in the marker can and will attack the dye layer if not permitted to air dry sufficiently. Proper drying a must.
3. Labels applied with a professional applicator. 2 label maximum per disc.
4. The use of a Magic Marker without proper drying.
5. Hand application of labels.
6. The use of spray paint to "seal" discs surface
I hope that helps -
Pete
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xbry
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22. February 2005 @ 10:18 |
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Thanks again Pete - your advice has proven to be very valuable!
So far I have been using a "sharpie" (permanent marker). How long do you recommend letting it dry? This particular type of marker seems to dry very fast. So are we talking about a few minutes, a few hours, or a few days?
Also, what do you think about Ripguard? As a new guy to this process, the thought of some new undecrytpable encryption is quite disappointing. It seems that if it is playable in a standard DVD player, it will likely not be too difficult to get around. Also, Macrovision says it works against 97% of the ripping software most commonly used. I am very curious to find out more about that 3%.
It will be a shame if it gets to the point that we can no longer back up the dvd's we have spent so much money on - they get scratched so easy. I might have to consider no longer spending my hard-earned money on them.
Thanks!
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ScubaPete
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22. February 2005 @ 16:52 |
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So far I have been using a "sharpie" (permanent marker). How long do you recommend letting it dry?
My personal opinion would be to let it sit for 10 or 15 minutes. To write a DVD's name on a disc isn't like covering the surface so the amount of solvent would be negagabul. It's the immediate trapping of the disc in a jewel case that would concern me. The solvent is pretty strong and though complete drying may take hours we're only concerned with the time until the oderl subsides. No, don't go "sniffing" it, it can be hazadorous :( Just let it sit.
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As a new guy to this process, the thought of some new undecrytpable encryption is quite disappointing.
Heh, heh, I wouldn't be too concerned. There are pple who rip encryptions faster than they can be released. As did AnyDVD with Setec ALPHDVD. They had it beat on Jan. 17, 05 and it was released on Jan. 18, 05.
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Macrovision says it works against 97% of the ripping software most commonly used.
I find that more of a dream then anything I've heard recently. Macrovision has been out for quite some time and DVD Shrink, DVDD, AnyDVD and the rest have no problem at all with MacroVision. The only ripping program that does have trouble with MacroVision is DVD43Free. Relax and Burn on . . .
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hoogs
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7. March 2005 @ 23:49 |
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Hey Unca Scuba!
Wow, everytime you post I learn lots -- even if
it bums me out sometimes! (I was one of those
poor sods who had bought a bunch of Memorex DVD
media on sale because... like the ad used to say,
"Is it live, or is it Memorex?" and, well... it
was -supposed- to be a major brand name, right?)
And waddaya know, just like Scuba Pete said, the
platters have often turned out to be junk. Some
didn't even make it through the original burn --
many others have worked in my DVD player but when
I checked them with Nero it couldn't read them.)
DOH!!
So, question: Staples last week (and this week)
has had Sony DVD+-R DVDs on sale -- effectively
at $0.40 / platter for larger spindles. I bought
some but haven't tried any out yet; any opinions
on Sony-branded DVD media?
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ScubaPete
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8. March 2005 @ 15:22 |
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Yep, I have an opinion -
I like Sony :D)
Checkout Best Buy - they had a sale recently for Verbatim +R media - I bought 200. I like the too.
Keep your eyes open - the good ones don't always cost an arm or a leg -
Mauy times, they're cheaper than Memorex :)
Lastly, that ad for Memorex - it was for their tape - it has always been good. I used a lot of their VHS tape too and never had a complaint. They don't make their DVD's - maybe that's where they fell off the wagon :(
Cheers,
Pete
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westend
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9. March 2005 @ 16:09 |
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I have been able to get VIDEO_TS files but they total over 4.5 G. When I try using dvdshrink to open the files in the VIDEO_TS folder, I get "failed to open file.. VTS_01_0.IFO".
Then I have used IFOEdit and hit create IFO files in the same folder. Then when I try to run dvdshrink again to open the files. I get a Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library error.
What does that mean? Any thoughts on how to fix it? I probably really don't know what I am doing with IFOEdit. All help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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9. March 2005 @ 16:49 |
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Westend,
Instead of trying to open the files in Shrink try this, Open Shrink Click on Re-author
Then browse for your files in the right window
Now drag those files over to the left window and Use Shrink as you normally would from there..
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9. March 2005 @ 21:47 |
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Scubapete & Co,
I'm impressed by pretty much anyone gets an answer to there problem on this thread! Well here's mine:
I've been using DVD Shrink (3.3) successfully for months, but just recently encountered a problem. After having opened the disc and the 30 seconds-3 minutes quick preview has finalized, I push Backup for it to start compressing and copying. Then it just hangs, meaning it stops and the cursor turns into an eternal hourglas. What I have tried:
- Reinstalling DVD Shrink
- Trying several different (original) discs to read from
- Waiting for hours (ie for the hourglas to give up)
- Performing deep-analysis before Backup
So then I've asked myself; what has changed since last time it worked and now? In principle nothing as this is pretty much what I use my computer for, except I've had to manually add some mpeg/dvd plugin files for Nero as my Nero Vision Express wouldn't work properly. But I can't really see how this would affect my DVD Shrink.
Any thoughts?
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10. March 2005 @ 02:44 |
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Have you tried a system restore?
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thusebo
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10. March 2005 @ 03:01 |
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No I haven't as I'm not too familiar with that feature, but I'll give it a try.
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puck_it
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10. March 2005 @ 16:56 |
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heres my issue. I'm trying to back up Patton and The Good, The bad, and The Ugly. dvd decrypter takes the iso off fine. run it through dvd shrink and i select make into iso and burn with dvd decrypter. so when its analyzing it the error comes up about 20-25% in on both movies. patton was unopened. so its a fine disk (i watched it to be sure) and GBU is scratchless as well.
im getting frustrated. did your tweaking ideas. and am trying to take it off as files instead of iso. argggg... n0 luck
help Pete :(
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thusebo
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10. March 2005 @ 20:56 |
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Bbmayo:
Holy crap, it worked, thanks!
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11. March 2005 @ 02:57 |
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Glad to hear that!! :-)
Peace
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11. March 2005 @ 03:02 |
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puck_it,
Lets try this just to make sure it isn't something you are doing wrong first... See that link in my signature? Click on it and go to the very first guide there and follow it to the "T".. Let me know what happens then :-)
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puck_it
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11. March 2005 @ 13:11 |
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well i was able to get Patton to work last night finally. i tried this remove running man procedure or something... idunno all i know is ive got my movie!
and bbmayo thats pretty much what i did.
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11. March 2005 @ 13:23 |
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Glad to see you got your movie :-)
Later
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JakkMC
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11. March 2005 @ 18:12 |
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Hey peoples, this is my first post and although I may be new i'd like to share a problem solving feat i came across (with the help of AfterDawn).
I too was getting CRC errors trying to backup a couple of DVD's using DVDShrink and DVDD. (I was attempting backups of Futurama S3 and Red Dwarf S3).
I managed to get around this by using AnyDVD and just using Nero Ultra Edition and just going 'Copy Disc' then running the full size image through DVDShrink to compress.
Hurrah!
So, that is my gem of wisdom.
However I do have an inquiry for those who are more knowledgeable than I:
It seems that if i go on a burning spree and want to burn several ISO's to DVD in one sitting, I have to restart my computer in between each one or the burning process gets to 1% and stops and wouldn't you know it, a new coaster is made.
I have WinXP Pro, Athlon 2800+, 512 RAM and use DVDShrink and burn using Nero. Any ideas on how i can get around this nuisance?
Cheers.
Oh, and P.S. I'm in Australia so I am in Region 4.
P.P.S. The Director's Cut ending of The Butterfly Effect is FAR better than the original. - My 2 Cents.
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maguina28
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19. March 2005 @ 19:42 |
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hi there, im new at this, cant back up my copy of star wars vi.Im using DVD Shrink 3.2 and cant do it.
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19. March 2005 @ 23:57 |
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erm, you've added to this long post and noticed how much detail put in, so you put absolutely no clues in whatsoever !!. read thru this post and see if there's anything there that can help you. if not hopefully you can post here what exactly is wrong, you can't just say 'help'
good luck
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20. March 2005 @ 14:46 |
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maguina28,
In case you haven't figured it out - We're not mind-readers - Nor are we sitting in your room looking over your shoulder to see what you're doing or what you have ~
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cant back up my copy of star wars vi.Im using DVD Shrink 3.2 and cant do it.
help
You'll need to Fill in this GENERAL information so that we can begin to help you -
We'll wait on your answers - it's all important -
What are your PC's specs ?
Have you updated all your OS updates ? i.e. If you're running XP, do you have SP2 and all the updates for it loaded onboard ?
Have you checked all of your PC's programs to be sure they have all of their drivers and versions updated ? Even if they aren't burning related ? We never know what's important and there's no time like the present :)
Have you tried checking your burning basics ?
Have you flashed your Firmware ?
Do you have a working ASPI layer ?
When was your last Disk Defrag ?
If you have to think about it, it's been far too long.
You need to do it now ! ! !
What is your burner's IDE location ?
What are your burner's Jumper settings ?
What type of media are you using ?
(Of major importance if you're having any trouble burning discs.)
What is the name of the DVD you are trying to backup ?
What Guide OR Guides are you using ?
What programs are you using ?
Yea, we know, DVD Shrink - what are you doing with it ?
Are you using it to:
To rip ?
To edit ?
To Burn ?
If you are using Nero, are you using Nero's Burning ROM ?
Using Nero Express ?
Was there an error ? What exactly did it say ?
IMPORTANT: Do you have an error log and can you post it ?
Exactly where were you and what are you doing when your error occurred ?
Do you have any Roxio products installed on your PC ?
Are you operating in the PIO or DMA transfer mode ?
Handy tools to help you find out about your PC ~
To check firmware, at the bottom of the page look for "What's my firmware? - Try this little tool I found," Download this tool and check out your firmware. There are also some firmware updates at this site.
http://flashman.rpc-1.com/
ASPI Checker.
Ascertains your ASPI layer's presence and operation status
http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/driverdetail.jsp?language=English+US&filekey=aspichk.exe&sess=no
DVD Identifier.
Provides us with important info about your discs.
http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/
Nero Info Tool.
General system information: Drive operation & support
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/nero_info_tool.cfm
NOW, If I can type out all these questions I'm sure you'll be kind enough to answer them -
Regards,
Pete
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maguina28
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21. March 2005 @ 17:21 |
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thanks guys, im sorry, it was the first time that i wrote this so i was clueless and did not know what to ask or how to ask, anyway i was able to copy a new hope thanks to all your messages.
Thanks again
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hoogs
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24. March 2005 @ 07:25 |
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Hey Scuba Pete (and gang)
FYI -- I noticed that Staples this week has a screaming
buy on HP brand DVD+R media: 50 discs for $18.
I've used Memorex (huge numbers of bad-burn coasters),
and Sony media (still some coasters, not nearly as bad),
but I have not yet had a single bad burn with HP discs.
(Cross my fingers, knock on wood, rub my lucky rabbit's
foot, etc... :) At a price like that, you can't lose.
Cheers,
-Tim
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ScubaPete
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26. March 2005 @ 15:09 |
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Good news:
The HP +R discs (they don't make -R's), in both the "Red" and "Yellow" packs are both made by the Mitsubishi Chemical corporation so you may feel comfortable about their quality.
Ya see ? You can get excellent quality at a good price ~ ~> you just have to shop for it (Lol)
Shop on . . . .
Pete
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rudenoise
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30. March 2005 @ 06:36 |
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Reference: ScubaPete, 8. November 2004 @ 20:51 advice for disk cleaning.
Mr. ScubaPete; I noted you have placed 'Brasso' as one of your cleaning agents...? Truly? I would think it would eat right through your DVD; (well...then you certainly wouldn't have to worry about a dirty disk). Seriously, would this not damage the DVD?
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
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