Originally posted by FredBun:

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I agree very much with auslanders last post, mainly cause its kinda true, as far as the other kids post, statement about Bushies assasination, be a little carefull cause statements like that can be touchy with some people even though I agree with him or her.

What I think would have been a better statement is, if somebody had the balls, give him a trial, find him guilty which should be easy, give him the death penalty, bring the Guillotine back, than off with his head.

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Originally posted by Auslander:

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i do, but i also believe that assassination, murder, and execution all amount to the same ends and are therefore equal. some are justified, some aren't, but they are all killings and ruling out one entirely rules out the other, in my opinion.

one man's murderous guerrilla usurper is another's revolutionary christ-figure. one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. no values or morals are universal, so universal actions can't not be ruled on universally.


universal is a fun word to type.

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Originally posted by Auslander:

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my point, pacman, was that everything was relative. political assassins have worked for our government and been seen as heros; to other nations, they're a scourge. i'm not saying some acts, with equal ends, are not more heinous than others, i'm saying nothing can be ruled out completely along the lines of justifiable actions, as justification itself is relative.

and dammit, neph, i'm steering this off topic again. my apologies.

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i think guns should be outlawed so olny the outlaws have em,.......and the cops that take an eternity to arrive on scene

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