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19. April 2007 @ 18:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by garmoon:
Never could get the parents to spring for the real Mccoy-A Benjamin Pump. How sweet were those? Had the heft of a real rifle and could do some damage. I sufferred thru many bad daisy BB guns, they could hardly break the skin. How embarrassing! I still have 2 eyes. LMAO.
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19. April 2007 @ 22:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Pacman,

That's an impressive and quite impeccable collection of autos! Those S&W Model 41's are simply gorgeous little shooters and I've always wanted either one of those or a Beretta Model 87 like this,





I'd love nothing more than to talk more guns but I've taken care of 75 offensive post reports and all I want to do is get the hell away from this computer!

Everyone take care and be safe :)



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20. April 2007 @ 01:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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The Cheetah 87 is a nice target/range trainer handgun. I'd say an excellent choice for that type of firearm. I'd have to get the wooden grips that go with it. That's for looks. Something about guns, I like ones that look good as well as handle well. The 87 fits the bill. If I didn't already have two 22 target pistols, I'd like to have one. Well... to tell the truth, I'd still like to have one. LOL I think the Smith 627 is next on my to buy list though. I've not owned one of the new 8-shooter custom wheelguns yet.

I can understand why you want to get away from the PC a while. ttyl ;)


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22. April 2007 @ 06:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I understand that guns and all are legal and are so from the constitution etc. Now I'm not some anti-gun freak. But, what good are guns doing for you all? Like, essentially, what do you do with them? What is the point? I know there is hunting and all, I have nothing against those people, nor anyone else, but for those of you who hunt, and feel the need to bring along a small arsenal, whats the point? And for those of you that don't hunt and have guns, again, whats the point?

In a country so... fixated on guns etc. banning them will do nothing except make the honest hunters have to hunt with bows etc. So there is no point in banning them. I just think it would be a good idea to curtail them severely in the way of taxes etc. When paying your gas and electricity bills, you should have to pay a gun bill as well. So any 'criminal' is going to have a hell of a time paying, and the honest hunters should have no problems.
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22. April 2007 @ 06:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by NicHt:
I understand that guns and all are legal and are so from the constitution etc. Now I'm not some anti-gun freak. But, what good are guns doing for you all? Like, essentially, what do you do with them? What is the point? I know there is hunting and all, I have nothing against those people, nor anyone else, but for those of you who hunt, and feel the need to bring along a small arsenal, whats the point? And for those of you that don't hunt and have guns, again, whats the point?

In a country so... fixated on guns etc. banning them will do nothing except make the honest hunters have to hunt with bows etc. So there is no point in banning them. I just think it would be a good idea to curtail them severely in the way of taxes etc. When paying your gas and electricity bills, you should have to pay a gun bill as well. So any 'criminal' is going to have a hell of a time paying, and the honest hunters should have no problems.

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1 part hobby(display,collecting),1 part marksmanship(like swordsmenship and martial arts) 1 part protection(deffence) and 1 part hunting(yes people still hunt).

All these add to the reasonable right to own guns,while its true gun crime would fall if they were baned look at japan(high suicide rate) and Enland(high knife crime rate) and finly even the US (balck market is stagnating with guns it would tipple if guns where baned,reface drugs and the prohibition of alcohol this would mean everyone who wanted one would have one and the goverment could not track or keep records as efficantly as they can with legal guns).

In the ends guns are merely a scapegoat to pick on and not the real issue the real issue is humans are weak(IE kill each other) and the approval system needs to be better and faster.

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
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22. April 2007 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I just think it would be a good idea to curtail them severely in the way of taxes etc. When paying your gas and electricity bills, you should have to pay a gun bill as well.
LMAOOOO

I JUST MIGHT PUT THAT IN MY SIG.
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22. April 2007 @ 07:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I forgot to add taxing guns more than nessery only adds grief to legit owners.

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22. April 2007 @ 07:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by NicHt:
I understand that guns and all are legal and are so from the constitution etc. Now I'm not some anti-gun freak. But, what good are guns doing for you all? Like, essentially, what do you do with them? What is the point? I know there is hunting and all, I have nothing against those people, nor anyone else, but for those of you who hunt, and feel the need to bring along a small arsenal, whats the point? And for those of you that don't hunt and have guns, again, whats the point?

In a country so... fixated on guns etc. banning them will do nothing except make the honest hunters have to hunt with bows etc. So there is no point in banning them. I just think it would be a good idea to curtail them severely in the way of taxes etc. When paying your gas and electricity bills, you should have to pay a gun bill as well. So any 'criminal' is going to have a hell of a time paying, and the honest hunters should have no problems.

What's the point?????
I am a small business owner and the business I now own hasn't been robbed since I took over, WHY, I am armed. I have a carry permit and all around here know it.
As for taxes, the government makes more money off my business than I do already, any more TAXES and I would have to shut my doors!
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22. April 2007 @ 07:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i don't trust any authority figures. authority over an armed populace has to be a bit more careful than an authority over an unarmed populace.


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22. April 2007 @ 08:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Vigilante Aus... XD
I know it was a crappy idea, but anyone else have an idea?
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22. April 2007 @ 08:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
give people more guns and tell the cops to take a week off. we're overpopulated. ^.^

one of the problems with *most* criminals is that they get their hands on what they think is some bad-ass boom-stick and that makes them invincible. no training in gun safety, no respect for the weapon beyond it's bling appeal, no idea how to shoot or where to hit someone to kill or wound.

but if more average citizens did weapons training and carried, i think they'd have major advantage over this criminal element. and even if the criminals got the training themselves, at best they're evenly matched. with no advantage, most of these potential-whatever-ers wouldn't go at someone face to face and there *would* be less shooting.

well, that's my zany, sleep-deprived theory. flame away.


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22. April 2007 @ 08:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Auslander:
give people more guns and tell the cops to take a week off. we're overpopulated. ^.^

one of the problems with *most* criminals is that they get their hands on what they think is some bad-ass boom-stick and that makes them invincible. no training in gun safety, no respect for the weapon beyond it's bling appeal, no idea how to shoot or where to hit someone to kill or wound.

but if more average citizens did weapons training and carried, i think they'd have major advantage over this criminal element. and even if the criminals got the training themselves, at best they're evenly matched. with no advantage, most of these potential-whatever-ers wouldn't go at someone face to face and there *would* be less shooting.

well, that's my zany, sleep-deprived theory. flame away.

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are uuu sure uuu want to give zippy gun?
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22. April 2007 @ 08:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
if properly trained, there's no reason not to. it's the right of a law-abiding american citizen, and i, for one, am for taking full advantage of all your rights.


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22. April 2007 @ 10:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If given a gun, will the citizen be emboldened to become a common thug? Or misuse the gun? Methinks so. :P
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22. April 2007 @ 10:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i don't think so, because if everyone's carrying, no one's going to want to whip it out.


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22. April 2007 @ 10:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ZIppyDSM:
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are these like anythign you have?(doing some searching for BB guns)
http://www.shootnhunt.com/catalog/JM/air...idan/index.html


for me I foudn soemthign I like
http://www.shootnhunt.com/catalog/JM/air...an/1300027.html

500+ fps BB and pelts I hope it sues 4.5MM BBs oh well I can use this as a power/price base and look around some more going to be a couple of months before I can fool wif it >>

ZippyDSM, Nope they're somewhat similar but not exact, as I said I have searched high and low and cannot find this gun on the web anywhere. I do not know at what fps the gun shoots but it will put a hole through tin can (all the way through),and I'm not talking aluminium.
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22. April 2007 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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i don't think so, because if everyone's carrying, no one's going to want to whip it out.



You're proposal might serve dual purposes, stopping robbers and flashers. Neither will want to whip out anything! LMAO


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22. April 2007 @ 11:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hey, i'm all for flashers. let's not deter them. ^.^


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22. April 2007 @ 12:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Auslander:
i don't think so, because if everyone's carrying, no one's going to want to whip it out.
ROFLMAO... whahahahah... thats frciken awesome :P
Yes, it would be less likely XD but on the off chance someone does, it's more likely to turn into an all out war in the streets because of some idiot. Would be hilarious to watch though.

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I'm for flashers to, as long as their attractive and female. XD

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22. April 2007 @ 13:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   



i don't see a street war happening, lest a revolution is going on.


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22. April 2007 @ 13:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the revolution does come, at least I am armed! LOL!!

OK, it's only a .22 semi-auto rifle, but it is better than a kitchen knife!

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22. April 2007 @ 13:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you can still pluck them off at half a mile accurately, pulsar. ^.~

.22 ammo is cheap, easy to carry, and effective if you have a chance to take aim. and with a rifle, taking aim is key. now a pistol...well, let's go at least 9mm.


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22. April 2007 @ 14:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well, if a revolution does come, I always have my GTO.Bye bye Bitches! Is what I would say riding off into the sunset whilst everyone tears themselves apart. xD
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22. April 2007 @ 14:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
and when your ancient pontiac breaks down on the road a half mile out of town, you'll be wishin' you'd bought a gun, ammo, and a subaru for the money you spent on your gto. ^.^


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22. April 2007 @ 14:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It won't break down! xD and I only paid $14000 for the corvette, because I put it together... thats maybe why it breaks down xD But an escape vehicle would go well with a couple Llama M82's... or a Sphinx AT 2000 S.

I love the Walthers... custom grip wooden handle... yay!
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