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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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inrever1e
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30. June 2005 @ 12:03 |
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Hey there. I'm new to this forum, and new to Torrents, but I feel as though I am well-informed, and yes, I've read the rest of this thread or whatever it is called. I am having what I feel is a unique problem, and I am requesting help, if it is available.
I'm running Azureus on a Macintosh PowerBook G4. Before you count me out because of that, I really feel that this has nothing to do with my problem, I'm just putting that out there in case anyone knows Mac a little better than I'm sure most of you do and will be able to help me better as a result of that.
Anyway, on to the problem: I get slow download speeds. I know everyone else on this thread does too, but here is my real problem: I have port forwarded, and get green lights in Azureus on my downloads- I have my DL and UL speeds set up to around 70% of my max, and I'm using a router (I've forwarded the default ports [6881-6899]). The funny thing is, my downloads still crawl at a maximum of 5kb/s. What is stranger is that if I use Azureus' port listen feature, it tells me that I have an NAT error- which I used to think corresponded to the yellow lights I was getting. I checked out this page: https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2 and found that when I probed a range of ports, some of them would be open and some would be stealth- but when I probed a single port in the range, it would ALWAYS be stealth. So why the green lights when the ports are not really open? I don't really get that part. I'm assuming that the ports aren't open, and Azureus just thinks they are or something. I have read that trying some random ports might work, but I wouldn't know which ones to try, and I have tried a few (17113, 50492) and they are also stealth after forwarding.
Thanks for reading this extensive post, but I'm at a loss here- using LimeWire I get up to about 50kb/s on downloads with a lot of "peers", and I'm not sure why I would rather use torrents when LimeWire is so much faster for me. I know that torrents have so many more benefits, so I woudl like to take advantage of these.
Any help, please? Thanks in advance...
I forgot to mention- I'm trying to download files with hundreds of seeders in the swarm, but I only seem to connect to 6- and only 1 of those ever seems to send me any data (at about 1 or 2 kb/s). Even the Azureus update, which had something like 6000 seeders, would go extremely slow. Thanks.
Right, right, this might help too. I'm seeding two files, which have thousands of seeds and peers in their respective swarms, but none have connected to me at all. I know this has something to do with my ports not being open... or at least i think it does. Thanks again.
sing, with your head up
with your eyes closed
not because you like the song
but because you love to sing
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redscorpi
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30. June 2005 @ 21:05 |
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assuming there is no difference between mac and pc with this subject...my opinion...
the fact that u are not connecting to a lot peers may mean u are not accepting incoming connections. which means u may have a firewall or router thats blocking the incoming connections; blocking the peers.
let me tell u first that u dont need to forward a range of ports; u can just forward one port. it works perfectly ok with me. and it just makes the whole getting-this-thing-right process easier. i suggest u only forward the port that u got listed under azureus' options (in Tools>Options>Connection>Incoming TCP listen port). remember u can always change the "listen port" option. so make sure when u are doing the shields up test that u are testing the port that Azureus has listed on this "Incoming TCP listen port" option. and remember this: that, if u forwarded the port, the port status on the test should be "closed" when Azureus is not downloading anything and "open" when it is downloading something.
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1. July 2005 @ 00:19 |
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inrever1e
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1. July 2005 @ 02:14 |
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Thanks for responding so quickly!
It still says stealth- after forwarding that port- although the port did fail the 'ping' test. I'm pretty sure that doesn't really help me, because I need it to fail the TCP packets test, right? Anyways.
Azureus still gives me an NAT error with that port as well. I have reasonable belief that if I tweak it/pick a port where Azureus will give me something other than NAT error, that the port will no longer be stealth either. Hm.
Should I mention that I use Satellite internet with DirecWay as the ISP?
Regarding adding trackers- I'm not sure how to do that. Completed downloads automatically seed in Azureus...
sing, with your head up
with your eyes closed
not because you like the song
but because you love to sing
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Joefight
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1. July 2005 @ 05:41 |
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Ok I have sprint DSL and a belkin router i cant even figure out how to open the ports can someone guide me through the whole thing?
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redscorpi
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1. July 2005 @ 12:27 |
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inrever1e, right, u want the shields up test to say failed for one port in this case. the reason is because what shields up does is check if ur computer is secure and when u have a port open, to them thats an insecurity (as it is) and thats why the test says "failed". but for our purposes is good.
as for u still getting "stealth": the problem may be with windows xp. do macs use Windows? i dont know. lol. i have never used mac so i may not be the right person to be helping u at all. but if u got windows xp, it comes with a firewall and u should forward ports there too, or disable it. this is assuming u honestly think u forwarded the ports in ur router correctly.
or u may have another firewall like Norton Personal firewall.
Quote: Ok I have sprint DSL and a belkin router i cant even figure out how to open the ports can someone guide me through the whole thing?
joefight, u can look up ur Belkin router in this list to find out how to forward ports: http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm
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inrever1e
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1. July 2005 @ 21:12 |
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Fortunately for every Mac user, Macs use Mac OS (Operating System), and that is one of the biggest reasons why people use Mac. Anyway, on to my problem- I've figured it out.
It definitely has to do with my ISP- The fact that I use Satellite must have something to do with my sending/recieving of files. I am currently at my cousin's house, and he has a cable internet connection. Everything else about it is the same (router, my computer, etc.) and I forwarded the one port on his router and Azureus said it was ok, the speeds are around 50-100kb/s, etc.
Anyway, like the true scientific method, the only difference between our two houses is the internet connection- meaning that this is the problem, and nothing I was doing wrong.
SO, my final word- if anyone knows how to increase speeds on Satellite internet connection, then please e-mail me: EMAIL REMOVED. Otherwise, thanks for all your help, but there isn't much you can do. Later!
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2. July 2005 @ 01:05 |
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@ inrever1e
Have you read the forum rules?
No Posting Emails.
You could of just asked someone to reply or even PM you, but nowthat you have posted your email, it's open to everyone now..
-Mike
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skrible
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2. July 2005 @ 02:57 |
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Well i've switched back to BitTornado and i get regular 20-30kb/s now... alot more better than Azureus but still too slow
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2. July 2005 @ 06:46 |
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@inrever1e, i removed your email address for your own sake, spam bots scan over these forums in search for email addresses everyday and if they cach on to it you might find yourself the target of a few hundred more spam emails a week!
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biggermac
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2. July 2005 @ 07:06 |
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inrever1e,
I read about satellite. DirecWay I think. But there is really a problem with that service.
One problem - if you start downloading large files it will cut you down to size and cut your speed way down. You are being punished. Everyone on satellite has to share a relatively small amount of bandwidth..
Secondly, the spec for the satellite I saw was only about 50 or 60 Kbps upload.. This is damn dial up speed. Torrent programs demand that you "upload well" in order to be able to "download well".
Face it - dial up is nice alternative to a dial up connection only;y if you live in the boonies.. Think of it, you could have a house in the middle of no where, has photovoltaics to make electricity, and have satellite TV/Internet/phone.
I also heard the download spec of satellite was in the low DSL range like 300 kbps.. Is this up/down speed I mentioned true?
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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inrever1e
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2. July 2005 @ 11:19 |
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Yeah, I'm an idiot. Thanks Mr. Moderator, and 'Mike'.
Sorry about that.
Yes, DirecWay sucks and yes, I live in 'the boonies' and am forced to have it because my only alternative is dial-up.
The download speed is alright, I don't know about any capping off on particular downloads or anything- but you do only get to download something like a few hundred MB every four hours. The upload specs ar horrible, and that's what I'm blaming my torrent speeds on. Thanks for your help!
sing, with your head up
with your eyes closed
not because you like the song
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redscorpi
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2. July 2005 @ 17:10 |
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skrible, Azureus is better than BitTornado.
And what the hell is "the boonies"?
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2. July 2005 @ 22:52 |
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Quote: Yeah, I'm an idiot. Thanks Mr. Moderator, and 'Mike'.
Woah, I never said you were an idiot, I was just helping you by saying that posting your email in forums is a bad and dangerous idea, I wasn't trying to get at you and I'msorry If I came across like that.
-Mike
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inrever1e
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3. July 2005 @ 01:43 |
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Oh no, i was just exerting my low self-esteem. I took no offense to your comment. :D
And you will never know what the boonies are until you are in them. But by then, it will be TOO LATE.
Later.
sing, with your head up
with your eyes closed
not because you like the song
but because you love to sing
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clbane
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3. July 2005 @ 08:05 |
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hi everyone, i was wondering if anyone knows where to get bit torrent files.
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biggermac
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3. July 2005 @ 09:49 |
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clbane, not such a good idea to post sites in a public forum. The anti-torrent police might be looking.
I don't even visit sites anymore. Find a good torrent search engine, type in what you are looking for, and find the tracker that way.
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Redscorpi, the "boonies" are the "boon docks".. The middle of no where. Out in the country. No cable TV no DSL.
Of course I did not have any DSL or cable Internet until the beginning of 2004 and I live in the largest city in the San Francisco bay area. The hub of silicon valley, the self-proclaimed "tech capital of the world", San Jose. Yet I still don't have DSL.. My brother's house only got broadband to it THIS YEAR. What a joke. The tech capitol of the world should go all WiFi, but nope.. Cities like technically challenged Philadelphia are though, I think..
Also Auzereas might be more technical and may be better for real modern computers and good broadband speed hook-ups, but I've heard more than one person mention Their speed problems with it. I've never tried it. BitTornado seems to do a great job for me after i figured out the settings to use and how to port forweard my router and stuff.. Maybe Auzereas could squeeze out a few more Kbps me, I don't know, but I don't think it woulkd be much. perhaps i should try it.. Can you set Auzereas to use any ports, or is it fixed?
Last week I got 3.5 Mbps with BitTornado almost the whole way through a 700 MB download. Then the next download later the same day was at 2.2 Mbps for a 1.4 gigger. However I have to say than other times I might get 600 - 800 Kbps perhaps,even less.. It not only seems to depend on seeds and peers, but something else comes into play and I don't know what. Yea, the 3.5 Mbps has like 45 seeds and 30 peers, a great ratio. It doesn't seem to matter, or maybe even hurts, if I start getting close to 100 peers or more. Ive had one 200 peer download before and my speed was nothing special.
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skrible, I was reading about Direcway I can't say where maybe their own website, and what happens if you are a habitual downloader they'll cut you way back on download speed. Apparently it's only for faster page loads and occasional files transfers. I wonder if they have a business account that costs more but givces you better speeds and no monitoring of the amount of bandwidth you are using.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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redscorpi
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3. July 2005 @ 20:43 |
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biggermac, u certainly can set Azureus to use any port u want. in fact, like i've said in previous posts, u only have to set one port. dont have to set a whole range of 'em. which is safer and more convenient in my opinion. and with ur internet connection (which is cable right) u should get great speeds. although 400KBs is very fast (man, i need to switch to cable! lol) u may get faster speeds. or u may just get steadier speeds. check out this screenshot cuz another good thing about it is that u can have multiple downloads in the same window. the top half is where ur downloads are and the bottom half is where ur seeding torrents are.
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Joefight
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4. July 2005 @ 16:32 |
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thank you..... umm here is something im confused about and since you guys know like everything about this stuff how do i lower the upload speed below 20kbs on bittornado?......and will it make it faster?
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redscorpi
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4. July 2005 @ 20:50 |
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joefight, if u cant lower the upload rate bar below 20 on BitTornado u are gonna have to choose another setting in the "Settings for" option.
setting the "upload rate" option below 20 may or may not increase ur download speed. it depends on the overall upload capacity of ur internet connection. to set the "upload rate" option correctly to make sure u maximize ur download speed, set the "upload rate" option to 75% or 80% of ur overall upload capacity. if u dont know the overall upload capacity of ur internet connection do a speed test online. for example here: http://www.dslreports.com/stest when u get the test results u will get ur internet connection's overall upload along with some other info. the test will give u the upload capacity in bits so first u have to convert it to bytes and then take the percentage. to convert it to bytes divide the upload (in bits) by 8, and then take the percentage.
confused? let me give u an example: if u do the test and the test says that ur upload is 200 kbs, what u are gonna do is divide 200 by 8. that equals 25kBs. than take 75% of 25. thats 19 and thats what u gotta set the "upload rate" option in ur BT client to. remember this is an example; do all that with ur own speed test result.
Note that, in this example, 200 and 25 are both ur internet connection's overall upload capacity. the only difference is that one is in kilobits and the other is in kiloBYTES (200kb/s equals 25kB/s). good luck
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cheesegod
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5. July 2005 @ 05:10 |
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Hi, I am new to this forum and to Bittorrents.
I am using Azereus and have the ever so problematic NAT error. Heard it all before? well I've read most of it before, including all 24 pages of this thread to date, and tried everything.
I am connecting through a Router (but have placed my computer in the DMZ). I have turned off the firewall on my computer and have not yet upgraded to SP2.
Despite all this I still only get yellow smilies, NAT errors and Shield Up still shows all posts as stealthed.
I am out of ideas and things to try.
Please help.
OMG!!!! My download speed just hit 15KB/s for the first time ever (see how frustrated I must be :| )
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nerd2000
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5. July 2005 @ 14:02 |
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Hey i dont know if anyone could help me but I am running bittornado on win/XP and it is going super slow with a yellow light, every once in a while the download stopping at 0kbps for like an hour and then starting back up again. I have disabled windows firewall and norton and made exceptions in both of them and bittornado is still very slow. Please help. Thanks a lot.
nerd2000
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redscorpi
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5. July 2005 @ 20:25 |
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cheesegod, go to ur router's settings to forward the port that Azureus is using. if u dont know how to go to ur router's settings try this:
1) go to Start, then Run, and type in "command" (without quotes of course). hit enter
2) on the black DOS window that appears type "ipconfig". hit enter
3) you are going to get some info. look for the line that says "Default Gateway". To the right of it there is going to be a long number. that's the router's IP address.
4) type that number (with dots and everything) into an internet web browser and you should be taken to your router's settings.
if u reach ur router's settings look for "port fowarding" options and forward the same port u got listed in azureus' options (in Tools>Options>Connection>Incoming TCP listen port). if u forwarded the same port in Azureus and u disabled the firewalls like u said, u should get a green light.
also, to make sure u maximize ur download speed, be sure to set the "gobal upload rate" option to the right amount.
nerd2000 if u disabled and made excepions in ur firewalls u must have a router or some other modem divice thats causing the yellow light to show up. do the same thing i told cheesegod to see if u reach some kind of router settings where u can forward the port range that BitTornado is using.
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biggermac
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5. July 2005 @ 23:34 |
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nerd2000,
You can't be a nerd of not be computer savvy...
About your problem. If I told you "A bear crossed the road in front of me and I need it fixed now", could you tell me what I needed to know?
No? Well you see I slammed on my brakes, and they locked up and now I am stuck in the middle of the road.
But you couldn't tell much could you? And so you too need to put out much more information as to what is going on what you have what you know. because it's been covered and covered again and again -how do I know if you have a router or not? You sound like you know what you are doing, but how do I know? I would not know where to begin. What is your ISP given upload speed/download speed, what is your upload setting set at in BitTornado, # of connections setting in BitTornado, do you understand the difference between Kbps and KB/s?.. OK tell me that stuff, tell me every setting in the default page of BitTornado (there aren't many).
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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nerd2000
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6. July 2005 @ 12:47 |
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Never mind i freakin fixed it already.
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