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How do u make BitTorrent download faster? i have been searching the answer for days.
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Srygonic
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19. July 2005 @ 06:37 |
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Ok, I have now tried upgrading to SP2 from just windows XP! And guess what... I have Green Light in BitTornado!!
But the d/l speeds are still as slow as ever.. well at least I got green light.. anybody help?
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daigoro
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19. July 2005 @ 08:27 |
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OK, I have Comcast cable connection, and I normally get 6000+ kbps download, that's from all the speed tests I run all over the net (Speakeasy, Cnet, etc). But ever since I started doing BitTorrent, it would slow EVERYTHING down, all the computers in my house AND the neighbors. When I asked Comcast, they said they'd been getting complaints from the area, but they couldn't figure out what the problem was, even the Comcast people. Hey, "I" didn't even know it was the BitTorrent until recently.
I was getting very slow downloads, like 0-5KBs, and higher uploads 30-40KBs, and whenever I run speed tests, I would get 300-500kbps, as opposed to the regular 6000. So I knew something was up. Anybody have any idea why this is?
Well, then I read this post, and tried opening my ports and disabling my firewall.
I have Linksys WRT45G-or...something like that and opened up 6881-6889, and a couple others for BitComet and BitTornado. Now it doesn't slow down my computer at all!!
BUT...I still have low download -a little bit better now, it can go up to 20+ KBs, but still averages under 10KBs. I guess I'm a little more happy. But I'm still getting yellow light in BitTornado. I checked the GRC Shields Up, and ports 6881-6889 are "CLOSED" -not "STEALTH" anymore, but not "OPEN".
I'm running Windows XP with Norton firewall which I disabled.
Does Windows XP have a built in firewall? Because I couldn't find anything.
I read somewhere in this thread or maybe PortForward.com site that you can configure that in Control Panel, but I don't have anything that says "Firewall". When I go to the Network Settings, the only firewall I see is the Norton -now disabled.
I hope that's enough information.
So.. here's to recap:
- BitTorrent was slowing everything down before I opened the ports. What's with this crap?
- Ports are still "CLOSED" not "OPEN"
- Yellow Light in Tornado
- DL speed is a bit faster, but I know I can go up higher because now my speed is back up to 4000-5000 kbps even when I'm running BitTorrent.
- Why does my life suck right now?
- I used to like bacon, but now nothing matters.
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biggermac
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19. July 2005 @ 10:15 |
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daigoro,
I have Comcast 400 up 4000 down. I use BitTornado. I use Norton System works (has anti-virus in it, plus worm protection, which is a firewall really, though not coming out and saying it is one).
The other day I ran a complete system test at PC Pitstop. One of the quirk readings it told me was that I was at 5500 Kbps down. I know I am not that fast. But even if you are 4000 down, 1000 kbps down (125 KB/s)is a pretty good download rate and you should be happy with it (500 kbps down/62 KB/s can be expected on less popular torrents). But of course you are firewalled I know because of the yellow light you are getting (it starts out yellow on a download but after a few minutes should go green).. Norton SystemWorks 2005. 2005's "Internet worm protection which acts just like when I ran Norton personal Firewall, telling me when a newly installed program is trying to run on the Internet.
And to answer a question - yes, Windows XP has a firewall, always had. But with the SP2 upgrade (service pack 2), XP became very firewall aware (about time) and checks and makes sure you have one running, or are aware you do not have one running. I don't think you'd be running both the NPF and XP2 firewalls, I don't think Windows XP with the SP2 upgrade would let you.. But, check in start/control-panel/Security-Center for your firewall.
BTW, I ditched the NPF when Windows XP service pack 2 (SP2) came along with it's own firewall - Why? Because I noticed my pages loading a bit faster without the Norton Personal Firewall. The SP2 firewall doesn't have the bells and whistles, but it works fine.
Anyways - you are right now running two firewalls. A router nowadays is almost always a firewall. It is a hardware firewall as opposed to a software firewall in your NPF or the XP2. You could actually run without any software firewall and be OK because of the router (do it here on my home network, with Windows 98 and a Windows 2000 computers). But my main computer which runs Win XP and NSW, I let the Worm protection run. However, I had to go into Norton and where it said worm protection, just like it'll be with your NPF firewall, I had to choose a command and get a page and enter in the BitTornado program there, telling it to ignore it (btdownloadgui.exe), otherwise it kept saying it is trying to infest me with a worm when connected to a tracker.
> 6881-6889
Since BitTorrent uses these ports, and other users of other torrent programs, who knows who is blocking what so they avoid lawsuits or whatever? *So why use that port range? If i told you I was using a porgram and it used ports 6881-6889, you'd pretty well know what I was doing, and ISPs have a good idea too if they look and see good activity in one of those ports. You're trying to eliminate possible problems here - BitTornado can use any ports you tell it to. You only need and use one port, unless you plan on doing more than one torrent at a time (usually not a good idea). I used to use ports 17117 and 17118, for no particular reason. Some3one mentioned higher up ports might get faster downloads, so now I use ports above 50000. So definitely try a different port or port range, lets say above 16000. (if you change the ports assignment setting in BitTornado, you must exit the program and it will take effect next start up - only the settings on the main page take effect right away).
So, you'll be telling your Norton Personal firewall to ignore BitTornado (path to btdownloadgui.exe), and the router you'll be entering in new ports to forward (let incoming come in). (Just so you know, a peculiarity of my Netgear router is that if I enter in forwarding ports, I have to assign those to a specific computer on my home network - I can't say, for example, port forward port 51345 for 2 different computers, it won't let me).
And just so you know too, with some healthy torrents I've gotten over 2 Mbps, which is the same as saying 2000 Kbps, or the same in KB/s, in which in this case the B stands for Bytes (8 bits to a byte), it is 250 KB/s (capital letter B, not small letter b). Last week I got 3.5 Mbps (3500 kbps) with one very highly seeded torrent - a record by far for me.
- Do not use BitTornado's "automatic" or "unlimited" settings.
- In the main Window choose slow or fast DSL/Cable, then adjust the upload speed box..
---> Remember - torrent programs are designed so you must upload well to download well. A setting too high or too low and you'll be screwed out of download speed. Well, it isn't true download speed, you are combining other's uploads.
---> So, If Comcast tells you that you have 400 Kbps upload speed, put in that upload box no more than 80% of that (torrent program need the extra to do stuff in). 400 Kbps = 50 KB/s. So put 40 in the upload box - me, I tick it back to even a lower setting for best results, I usually use 35.. Max uploads - 6 is OK for you, but use no more than 6, if you only had 250 kbps up max then the minimum 4 is good (this is in the box right below max up speed).
---> Turn off UPnP in both BitTornado and in your router.
It's been mentioned that some modems might have to be tweaked for ports, for DSL users anyway. I know nothing about this. My Comcast Motorola modem works fine and dandy.
I wouldn't mess with setting you up as a "static IP address".
BTW, it took me quite a while after I 1st started doing the torrent thing to get settings and things in my router (understanding port forwarding) and in BitTorrent to where I was finally un-firewalled (green light) and downloading at a good clip.
P.S. - I goes without saying.. Don't download illegal torrents (only non-copyrighted).. OK? ...I know you will all cooperate..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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Redwood04
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19. July 2005 @ 10:22 |
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>>>>>>>> dunno really. I would think it depends on what modem your using. Or maybe your ISP. What router do you have?
I am using a Motorola SB4200 Surfboard Cable Modem. My ISP is Comcast.
I don't have a router so i am asking if there is DMZ for a cable modem. Or is it possible that my modem is blocking the ports? If so, how do i configure that?
THanks much
--Redwood
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h059
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19. July 2005 @ 12:00 |
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damnit! I'm so friggen pissed!!!! >=(, fuckin' downlaod speed is only 20 kB/s...aaaaarghhhh!!! damn...stupid.. I dunno what causes this but I am VERY pissed of at that thing >=(!!!
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dannyl89
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19. July 2005 @ 12:03 |
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well cable modems dont tend to have a configuration option as do routers, so i dont think you would be able to enable DMZ because there are no ports being blocked and this feature does not come with cable modems. When you use a cable modem directly all it does is give you the internet connection. WHat might be blocking your ports is either your windows firewall (if it is enabled and you have windows) or another firewall.
My suggestion is you enable access to the bit torrent client you are using through your Firewall.
"My belt holds my pants up, but the belt loops hold my belt up. So which one's the real hero?"
-Mitch Hedberg R.I.P.
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Redwood04
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19. July 2005 @ 17:01 |
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danny
i have already done that. no luck.
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dannyl89
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19. July 2005 @ 20:30 |
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well my friend being that you dont have a router and you already did what i would suggest then i cant help you out.
"My belt holds my pants up, but the belt loops hold my belt up. So which one's the real hero?"
-Mitch Hedberg R.I.P.
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Akazecks
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20. July 2005 @ 11:15 |
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y isn't this sticky?... I mean... that westell configuration is great...
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tecky123
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21. July 2005 @ 04:00 |
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Hi. I've read through all the pages in this thread and tried everything.
I am using Bittornado 0.3.12 + BT Engine + BT download accelerator (but it kept saying that bittorrent is not installed) and my download is stuck at 5-15kb/s!!!
I have 1.2Mbps connection with ports 50500-50505 forwarded on Norton and windows SP1 firewall disabled. Also Shields Up said that the ports were open. So how come it's still that slow???? Someone please help me.
*EDIT* I have set the Max upload rate to 142kB/s and the connection is 88 peers and 3 seeds with green light.
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biggermac
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21. July 2005 @ 04:49 |
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> Hi. I've read through all the pages in this thread and tried
> everything.I am using BitTornado 0.3.12 + BT Engine + BT download
> accelerator (but it kept saying that bittorrent is not installed)
> and my download is stuck at 5-15kb/s!!! I have 1.2Mbps connection
> with ports 50500-50505 forwarded on Norton and windows SP1
> firewall disabled. Also Shields Up said that the ports were open.
> So how come it's still that slow???? Someone please help me.
This is a 1st for me - I don't know what the BT Engine is or the BT Download Accelerator - are these for any torrent-getting program? ---> BT could mean they are for the BitTorrent program only. I think you might be running conflicting software and thus getting the "not loaded" message.. Maybe this added crap is meant to run with the BitTorrent ports 6889 or whatever the range is.
I am curious - what is the reason that you are still with SP1? SP2 has been around for what now - a half a year? A year? (I forget it's been so long). I have found my system to be more stable since installing the SP2 upgrade..
In any event, when you are tying to figure out what the problems are with any program, don't you try some easy stuff 1st? Why run this BT Engine and BT Accelerator when you are trying to figure out what is what - move them out off there or uninstall them or however you stop them. Run only BitTornado and see what happens. This is the 1st thing I'd try before anything else.
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And in your Norton Personal Firewall just exclude the whole program (btdownloadgui.exe).
Don't use "automatic" as the setting in the main BitTornado Window, choose slow DSL or Fast DSL then adjust the settings. Set upload max speed to no more than 80% of your true. Since you must upload well to be able to download well, you don't mention what upload speeds you are achieving. Do you get a green light or yellow - yellow would indicate a firewall problem
Of course I am repeating what's been said several times but you said you tried everything.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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tecky123
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21. July 2005 @ 05:01 |
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guess what... when i stopped BT engine and BT Download accelerator... the speed is 3kB/s !!!!!!
anyway, i did set my bit tornado to be slow cable/dsl with 24kB ...
SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM??? WHY CAN'T IT WORK!!!!!
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biggermac
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21. July 2005 @ 06:30 |
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I am no mind reader. You say you tried everything, but how do i know what you are doing. You are failing to mention stuff. For example I still don't know if you are getting a green light or if the light is yellow.
You are of course waiting for 15 minutes before deciding you are downloading too slow.. Everyone starts out low like that and it takes time to hit a point where you have enough info to be able to trade.
The Slow DSL settings means it says 13 KB/s up speed max and 4 connections. This isn't a very good setting if you have 250 Kbps or 400 Kbps up max. I know you said 1.2 Mbps down - up is? 250 kbps? 400 Kbps? 400 Kbps = 50 KB/s.80% of 50 KB/s = 40 KB/s. 40 should be there as max upload, maybe even 35. Max connections in this case can be 6. 5 is OK. the default 4 is Ok if you have slower upload max.
You can try turning off UPnP. It might help.. Usually though Windows XP comupters are all UPnP capable.
Remember that if you change anything except max up speed and max connections, you have to close the program and then next time opened the stuff you changed will be in effect.
And how many seeds and peers in your group?
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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redscorpi
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21. July 2005 @ 12:00 |
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yeah tecky123, the BT engine and the accelerator are just old news. if u got the idea from this thread, just know that the very first posts are old. so i dont recommend u use any of these programs. one has a lot of spyware and the other just didnt do sh*t. so just dont use 'em. me and the people of this thread were just trying out programs that claim to make the bt downloads faster, but they didnt really work. but, hey, nothing ventured nothing gained, right?!
however, i've learned through experience that the best way to get the maximum speeds that u possibly can is by making sure the port used by the BT client or program is not being blocked and open (getting the green light) AND setting the "upload rate" option of ur BT program to 75% or 80% of the overall maximum upload capacity of ur internet connection.
now, u've said that u are getting the green light, so thats great. now the only part im confused about u doing is the setting of the "upload rate" option. Have u set this option to 75-80% of ur internet connectoin's upload capacity? if u dont know ur upload capacity, u can do a speed test online where they will tell ur upload capacity, like here: http://www.dslreports.com/stest
when u get the upload statistics, u will get it in kilobits. so, first u convert it to kilobytes by dividing the result by 8. and then u take 75% of that. and then that's what u put in the "upload rate" option.
i, personally, dont know of anything else u can do if u do that and still get slow downloads. always remember to wait a few minutes before determining that u getting slow speeds though (5-10 minutes). i cant tell u how many times i got pissed off at the speeds i was getting cuz i didnt remember to wait a while.
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Redwood04
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21. July 2005 @ 15:41 |
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im averaging 80-100 kb/s with a yellow light. imagine what i could get with a green light...unfortunately i ran out of things to do even if i portforward and no luck.
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dannyl89
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21. July 2005 @ 16:54 |
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those are pretty good numbers for yellow. Dun get greedy =P
"My belt holds my pants up, but the belt loops hold my belt up. So which one's the real hero?"
-Mitch Hedberg R.I.P.
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tecky123
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21. July 2005 @ 23:19 |
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ok, i disabled my UPnP and the speeds are still around the 7-15kB/s area....there is a green light and there are 90 peers and 5 seeds... i don't think bittornado takes that long to get fast speeds because i have tried using the new settings for over 1hour...
my max up is 114kb.. so my upload rate should be around 11kB/s. But it still doesn't work!!!!
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biggermac
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22. July 2005 @ 00:14 |
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Your "up" max of 114 Kbps is pretty slow by today's high speed Internet standards.. Torrent programs are written so that you need upload well to be able to download well. But still I'd think you'd get more than 15 KB/s download speed (120 kbps if I got it right).
Where it says "max uploads - leave it at 4.
You should try another torrent just to be sure. Try one with more seeds to peers ratio. I am afraid you just might be being punsished because it thinks you are holding back the upload. Run a few speeds tewsts at http://www.dslreports.com/stest/0 to see if your up speed is less. because if it is set too high you also will takew a hit on the download speed.
Don't leave any setting "unlimited" or "automatic" just to make sure. So where it says max files opened set a limit to 100 or soemthing..
Sorry can't help you any more. I have Comcast Cable.
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ok, i disabled my UPnP and the speeds are still around the 7-15kB/s area....there is a green light and there are 90 peers and 5 seeds... i don't think bittornado takes that long to get fast speeds because i have tried using the new settings for over 1hour...
my max up is 114kb.. so my upload rate should be around 11kB/s. But it still doesn't work!!!!
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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tecky123
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22. July 2005 @ 00:34 |
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hmmmm... other torrents seem to do the same too... they have around 150 peers 20 seeds... so it averages around 17-22kB/s .... sigh... how come it works for everyone and not me??????
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biggermac
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22. July 2005 @ 04:00 |
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In "Prefs" then that sections "advanced", try adding in max peers to 60.. Exit the program,. Then try again so the setting is on effect. Also o when in there try max files open at 50. Just trying stuff here, I'd cross my fingers very hard...
Did you run the test at http://www.dslreports.com/stest/0 and see what it said about your speed - how fast are you really - especially what does it say about your upload speed?? You wrote time before last your max upload was 114 kb... Seeing by what you said about KB/s though it tells me you meant 114 Kbps up max, then you set to 11 KB/s in BitTornado. Well 114 Kbps = just about 14 KB/s, and so 11 is about right then to use (80% - try 10 just to see..
Remember, I know they fxxcked up when they made two standards for reporting speed - but remember that if you use a large letter B, as in KB/s, the B = Bytes. A small letter b = bits. 8 bits = one Byte. 1000 kbps = 125 KB/s = 1 Mbps. Notice 1 Mbps is back to using a small letter b again for bits. Also remember if you say Kb/s technically it is bits even though we know what you mean because of the / thingie and Bittorrent-like programs using it.
---> Your max upload speed is 114 kbps (14 KB/s) you say. This is as you know, is only twice the speed of a dial-up person. To repeat, torrent programs need you to upload more/faster then they reward you with better download speeds eventually. That is their nature - they were written so you have to share, and share well. Not like other P2Ps where you can un-tick sharing/upload box..
So sorry to say you just might be too slow there in the upload department. It may be that it is working for everyone else because we all have much faster transfer ability (upload capability). We'll never know for sure though unless you buy a better DSL plan or get cable Internet. By the way Comcast customers all should have 400 Kbps up and 4000 Kbps down by now, or soon.
Now - why is this torrent I've been getting, taking all night, is downloading slower than my upload.... This is crazy.. it says I'm over 300 kbps up but only 260 Kbps down, 14 seeds 45 peers.. A torrent with these numbers should be downloading minimum for me at 600 Kbps (75 KB/s)... Some trackers care just slower than others.. But this is too slow. A German file.. Are German trackers slower??? Whoops there I am at 430 Kbps down now, 66% done. Ooooops back down it goes..... ugh.. Seems I have to be happy with the same down rate as my up rate.. This is bad.. Down averaging slower than up.. Maybe the torrent police have figured out how to screw up things..
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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tecky123
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22. July 2005 @ 15:25 |
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i did run tests on all of the mirrors that they have... they all say around the same thing... max down is around 1040kb/s (130KB/s) and max up is 112-115kb/s (14.25KB/s)..... stoopid isp!!!
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biggermac
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22. July 2005 @ 16:06 |
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The only things you can do now:
1) try another torrent program like auzereas. (hope I spelled it right). Or ABC (based on BitTornado). Or one of the others.
<or>
2) put your computer in a bag and take it over to a friends house who has a better upload speed than your crummy almost dial-up speed of 114 Kbps and try it and see if it goes faster.
BTW I ran tests yesterday at DSLreports.com myself.. I used the San Francisco mirror, which is lose to be (I live in the bay area). Comcast said I had 400 up and 4000 down. This test, and also PCPitstop, told me I am over 5000 down, but I am only 353 up. This explains why I have to tick back my upload speed in BitTornado. Normally 40 KB/s is what I would need (80% of 50 KB/s, which = 400 Kbps). I have been using 35 as max upload lately. Now I see why because my up speed given by comcast isn't their 400 Kbps.. I might even want to tick it down to 34 or 33. This was a middle of the night test.. Sharing the cable in day time might even further retard my speed capabilities (unlike DSL< with cable the more in your area on the same cable the slower your speeds get)
> stoopid isp!
What company is this? It is DSL? Do they have limits they guarantee? Are you on a super cheapie account with them? Some DSL plans are even slower than yours... Pay a few more a month and get a higher up plan for more upload speed.. If it doesn't work then go back to the old way. or get a new ISP if you can.
Where I am I am stuck with Comcast cable. I live in the friggin tech capital of the world (so they wanyt you to beleive) population a few shy of one million (only this city -- more cities all around), and yet I was only able to get ANY broadband at all at the beginning of 2004.. That's Comcast cable. And damn SBC/Yahoo still does not offer it to my house (new in 1964).. What a joke tech capital - San Jose, Ca., largest city in the bay area - beats out San Francisco now too, ther cornerstone of silicon valley, and rotten broaddband choices.. While other cities are going WiFI for everyone, San Jose is way behind.....
----- your wrote
I did run tests on all of the mirrors that they have... they all say around the same thing... max down is around 1040kb/s (130KB/s) and max up is 112-115kb/s (14.25KB/s)..... stoopid isp!!!
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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im averaging 80-100 kb/s with a yellow light. imagine what i could get with a green light...unfortunately i ran out of things to do even if i portforward and no luck.
thats good. those speeds are not uncommon if u got the internet connection for it. but, if u are getting a yellow light chances are u DIDN'T port-forward correctly. something is still blocking them ports. so u should check that out again and make sure u port-forward ur chosen listen port in ALL your firewalls and routers.
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tecky123
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22. July 2005 @ 21:16 |
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i just tried ABC... the speed is arond 17... ummm...i think i found the so called "sweet spot" on tornado... it's slow cable/dsl at 10kB... so my downloads are averaging like 26-29kB/s....
as for my ISP... it is Telstra from australia.... i paid for da most expensive type of home cable!!!(company cable is different).... oh wellz... i think ISP is juss slowing me down on purpose..
are there any ways of bypassing the ISP's cap ????
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biggermac
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22. July 2005 @ 23:32 |
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Ok.. Austrailia.. Yeah, you guys are way behind over there as far as broadband. I used to correspond with a cou0ple as part of a Yahoo chatroom group over a year ago. I got the opinion high speed Internet was very expensive if you could get it at all. If that is the best you can get then that is it. They only have say, 1300 Kbps bandwidth in their lines, so they've sacraficed upload speed so you have more download speed.
I have heard that satellite Internet like with DirecTV, will cut your bandwidth way back if they detect prolonged downloading over a period. They just don't have enough to give out. Maybe it's like that in Australia, old outdated equipment and just not enough bandwidth, so they have a quota and if you pass it you get punished..
However, I must say, even with me, I can expect 600 kbps down speed with a 300 Kpbs up speed. That would be normal. So other times i get 1000 kbps with a properly seeded torrent. A few timews I've gotten 2000, once over 3000 Kbps download. But - look at what is mosat common - one to two. 300 up 600 down. So, you are 10 KB/s up and so 20 KB/s down would be all you could expect. You should be able to get 30 once in a while with a few well seeded torrents.. It isn't your ISP, I think it's Australia and your citizens accepting the crappy speed without complaining.
...McBigGuy@no-emailxxx.org
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