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How much will this PS3 cost
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dr.cool
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29. November 2005 @ 14:43 |
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its common sense that the ps3 will be $400 if the xbox360 lowers its and if the ps3 were $600 people would buy the x360
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29. November 2005 @ 22:35 |
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its common sense that the ps3 will be $400 if the xbox360 lowers its and if the ps3 were $600 people would buy the x360
Well they just can't sell ps3 so that they lose 200$-300$ per unit, Sony doesn't have that kind of money. Microsoft has a lot more money, and they are selling xbox 360 losing 126$ per unit.
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Jkhmmr
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30. November 2005 @ 04:27 |
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He's right. Sony's other divisions have't been doing now. A more realistic price is somewhere in the range I mentioned before which is $500-$700. It might reach $800 because of the extra things it can do that they decided they wanted to keep but I don't think so. All the problems that it has with playback of PS and PS2 games, controllers, mem cards etc and the removal of the router capability and necessity of hard drive for games makes me happier. That's because with all this less extras things will be cheaper. At first I was expecting it to be $800 but now I'm guessing $600. It might go down if they really rip out options out of it. Like the dual HDTVs. It's cool but would increase the cost.
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kookoo76
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30. November 2005 @ 12:25 |
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lol Quote:
Well they just can't sell ps3 so that they lose 200$-300$ per unit, Sony doesn't have that kind of money. Microsoft has a lot more money, and they are selling xbox 360 losing 126$ per unit
Do you meen that if tehy sell their systems 400 ea they will loose that much? Do you know how much its ogign to cost to make a ps3? They will loose a tad bit more than the 360. Dude it doesnt cost arround 600 to make!
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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dr.cool
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30. November 2005 @ 12:34 |
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sony will lose more if they sell the ps3 for $700 cause no one will buy it
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kookoo76
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30. November 2005 @ 12:37 |
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Omg, why cant anyone get anything straight? The ps3 will cost a tad more than the 360. Mabey like 425$. 360 is 400$. Not 700$, not 600$ not 500$ not 300$ not 200$, not 700$+, not 200$-
And who would pay 700$ for a system. Dr.cool made a big point there, thats why the ps3 iss seling their system for that much.
425$$$$$$$$$$
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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l34merik
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30. November 2005 @ 13:26 |
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Huh whats with all this talk about $700 systems. The ps3 will be $400-under $500 ($450 maybe?) The 360 has already been released and the core bundle is $300.
Hey where's the rasengan? all i see is a pic of that darkness thing. The PS2 was also around $400 when it first came out. The most expensive gaming system that I've seen is Sony's PSX (not the first one, it's basically a PS2 with lots of extra stuff that never made it to America and it still cost $700 if you import it now)
How did MS become two companies? Sorry I take A.P Government next year so i don't know this stuff yet.
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kookoo76
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30. November 2005 @ 13:31 |
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Wha..they ddint release psx everywhere:( Well i never heard of it in Canada. here in canada, the xbox360 costs 499$..the core costs arround 399$. Dont know american prices. But i predict that in Canada ps3 will cost 525$. Dahm, a Canadian dollar is 85cents american, but things are still way mroe expencive up here.
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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Jkhmmr
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2. December 2005 @ 06:27 |
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Actually the price isn't confirmed. That was around what they first said it would be priced as but they said it's expensive and they're trying to cut costs. Meaning that if they sold it at that price they'd make too big a loss on each console. So they started removing stuff but I don't think it's helping that much. I expect above $500 unless they really go crazy taking stuff out.
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lampasas
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2. December 2005 @ 07:30 |
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I work directly with the Sony corp. and from what I am hearing is that the PS3 WILL COST $299.99 dollars. But im not going to say it will be $299.99 when it launches but that?s where it stands now. When a company releases a new console no company will make money the first year, it takes a number of years before they will make money because of the high cost of licenses the company has to purchase and the cost of production etc. The biggest cost for Sony is going to be the new Cell processor, which should cost the company $160 per chip. YES, the PS3, will play the PS2 and PS1 games! And honestly think about it who is going to pay 600 or even 700 dollars for a PS3.. well I know I would not.
How much will they lose, Arriving at $399, the PlayStation 3 would still be losing around $100 per unit, which adds up to around $1.18 billion of losses for Sony if year one sales predictions of 14 million units prove true. They are expecting a world wide launch around April 2006.
How powerful will the PS3 be: On paper, the PS3 is 2x more powerful than the Xbox 360 and 15x more powerful than the Nintendo Revolution. It has a processing capacity of 2.18 TFLOPS, which is put into context when you realize the FASTEST computers in existence can only do 36 Terraflops. It is said to be 35x more powerful than the PlayStation 2 . Sony will have an online service very comparable to Microsoft?s Xbox Live service. How much will they lose, Arriving at $399, the PlayStation 3 would still be losing around $100 per unit, which adds up to around $1.18 billion of losses for Sony if year one sales predictions of 14 million units prove true.
Here are the official technical specifications for the PS3, from Sony:
CPU
Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)
Memory
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth
Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance
2 TFLOPS
Storage
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)
AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
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kookoo76
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2. December 2005 @ 07:59 |
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On paper, the PS3 is 2x more powerful than the Xbox 360 and 15x more powerful than the Nintendo Revolution
No, what ever those sony dudes told you, are complete idiots. You gotta do the research. The ps3 it will be more powerfull(in terms of loading and that stuff), but not 2x more powerful. And why do u say it will be 25x more powerfull than the rev.? The rev's specs havent been released. GpU wize, the 360 and the ps3 are almost the same. You know what read the las 7 posts from ps3 graphics ok? To lazy to explain. The CPU,i havnt done alote of research, but i know it cannot be 2x more powerfull than the 360.360 has more generating processing, while the ps3 has more tflop.
FOR GRAPHIC INFO about the PS3 and 360, go visit the thread on ps3 graphics. Dont read the first couple parts, because they are untrue, read the last parts. last 7-5 posts.
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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dr.cool
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2. December 2005 @ 16:16 |
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is there any way you can prove you work with sony??
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kookoo76
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2. December 2005 @ 16:33 |
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he got lots of info wrong. Like the chip is 100$ not 160$..i think he made that up. He's a super fan boy...lol ..one fanboy class higher than me.
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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DynastyX
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2. December 2005 @ 18:13 |
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PS3 > XBox360
Need I say more?
"IMHO" So don't flame me you bastards!
"Only God Can Judge Me"
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kookoo76
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2. December 2005 @ 18:21 |
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The ps3 is said to be 399-450$......... read the thread!!!!!!!!!!!!! They cannot sell it 600$. What is wrong with you? Sony already said that they are selling their system for the same $ as the 360! stop posting down that its goign to cost 500+ u
Shoot, I didnt realize that i was reading the first page!lmao sry, so yea that is ment to the person who posted that first page. who is Zinn
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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2. December 2005 @ 23:45 |
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The ps3 is said to be 399-450$......... read the thread!!!!!!!!!!!!! They cannot sell it 600$. What is wrong with you? Sony already said that they are selling their system for the same $ as the 360! stop posting down that its goign to cost 500+ u
Shoot, I didnt realize that i was reading the first page!lmao sry, so yea that is ment to the person who posted that first page.
Actually Sony hasn't said anything about the price. They were just some journalist's assumptions.
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dr.cool
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3. December 2005 @ 06:27 |
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im sure specs that the ps3 promised wont ever appear at launch day just so the price can be reasonable. if you have a system that costs $700 a big crowd you cut out are the kids.
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kookoo76
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3. December 2005 @ 08:33 |
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Actually Sony hasn't said anything about the price. They were just some journalist's assumptions.
Actually it was just Sony CEO hinting the price range.
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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3. December 2005 @ 09:34 |
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"An earlier version of this story appeared with statements erroneously attributed to Sir Howard Stringer, CEO of Sony Corporation, regarding pricing and availability of the PS3. Stringer has not commented publicly on how much the PS3 is expected to cost, or how soon it will appear in the US after the Japanese launch in spring 2006."
You don't get a hint do you? They were not CEO's words, the journalist just made it all up.
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dr.cool
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3. December 2005 @ 10:09 |
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we should be thankful if the ps3 is $700 though if you think about it the best gaming computer is 7,000$
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kookoo76
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3. December 2005 @ 11:18 |
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The ps3 isnt 700$. It doesnt even cost taht much to make. OMG...lol there goign to loose -100-200$ on everysystem making it. No concol ever was 700$. Not even the ps2. not 700$,600$,500$. its..
300$-450$
no, computeres gpu is as strong as the rsx or 360's ATI. Its pointless for idiots to buy a computer that is 7000$ if its gpu is weeker than the ps3's and 360's.
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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Jkhmmr
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3. December 2005 @ 23:32 |
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Ok it can't possibly be around the $300 range. Simply because the CEO said it would be expensive and the only thing they took out after he said that was a hard drive so that's $100 less. Note that this is all hypothetical. All right if the starting point was $300 BEFORE taking out the hard drive then it would not be considered expensive because that's around the normal console release price. If it was $400 it also would not be considered expensive because they already had a rough estimate on the price of the XBox 360 at that time which was about $400. Thus it had to be at leas $500 when Ken Kutaragi said it was going to be expensive. Thus after removing the hard drive it would come up to $400 minimum hypothetically. But they haven't announced a price yet. If it was all finalised then they would just say $400 and no one would mind because it would be around the same as the XBox 360 with hard drive. So logic states it has to be higher than $400. $450 would still be reasonable for them to announce immediately if that's where they got its retail price down to. So it makes sense that if they were to release it now it would probably be a minimum of $500.
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kookoo76
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3. December 2005 @ 23:43 |
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Dude, the thing only cost $500 to make. They usually sell for a lote less than what they make. I would agree with the 450$. But not 500$
ps3:GPU-24 pipelines producing 5.7 ops each
-700mhz ram.
-On par with geforce 7800
-rsx at 550mhz
-rsx is 1.8 tflops
ps3:CPU-Cell processor
-total of 8 spe's running at 3.2 ghz.
Cell is 218GFLOPS.
Computer Hp pavilion a700n
448 mb of ram(upgrading it to 1gb)
amd3000+
(going to have geforce 7800 soon)
Currently(a shitty intergrated via/s3)
Information about ps3's rsx is on:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/265429
Information about The xbox360 and ps3's gpu
http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2423
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4. December 2005 @ 01:34 |
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How do you know what it costs to make ps3? I think only sony knows that.
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Jkhmmr
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4. December 2005 @ 04:54 |
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Exactly. Plus think about it properly. Each XBox 360 is sold at a loss of $126 so the cost of making one is about $526 for the bundle with hard drive. And the PS3 has more functions built into it plus a next gen DVD drive. And no hard drive which despite how Microsoft sells one should be about -$50 to the price. So logically a Bluray drive not available on market would probably cost maybe $70 more than the DVD drive in the XBox 360. Then there's the double HDTV output which should be like I dunno $20 extra. Bluetooth is cheaper though so it should be like -$40. And the PS3 has a nice shiny finish so slightly more by maybe $5. Add that all up and the PS3 would possibly cost $550. But this is all guessing. And not to mention the new Core processor. That should be like $100 more so the cost by my rough badly estimated figures is $650. So if they sell it at $300 they'll lose $350 per PS3. If they sell it at $400 they'll lose $250. But if they sell at $500 they'll only lose $150. So let's agree at least that they need to seriously rip out a lot of options to afford selling it below $400.
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