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PS2 Hard Drive and game burning questions
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MadBoomah
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21. June 2006 @ 11:43 |
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According to the readme:
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Network speed notes
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Networking server is able to accept a limited number of bytes per
second. Any extra bytes send would probably be missed -- "dropped on
the floor" -- as UDP is unreliable protocol. For not to corrupt data
the client will ask the server if it got all the data send and will
retransmit some or all of the missed bytes if necessary. Hence if the
client sends data too quickly it will need to make a retry and there
will be a waste of time. However, if it sends the data too slowly
there will be a waste of bandwidth.
"target_kbps" controls the number of kbytes client will send each
second. The "maximum" practical speed depends on many factors, like OS and maybe kernel compilation flags -- mostly timer granularity -- as client uses sleep and benefits greatly from high-resolution timers. "2350" is a good default value, which gives about 2,1MB/sec. "2500" works great on my Linux box, making 2,25MB/sec, but performs badly on a Windows machine decreasing speed below 1,6MB/sec.
So, I guess it's a code optimization issue rather than being hardware constraints.
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HDLoader 0.8a with 160Gb Maxtor HDD
Nintendo GameCube DOL-001
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POTS adjusted to 400Ohms from 496Ohms and runs everything thrown at it
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21. June 2006 @ 11:50 |
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Ahh, UDP... fast but unreliable. Wonder if it'll actually be faster with TCP.
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"2500" works great on my Linux box, making 2,25MB/sec, but performs badly on a Windows machine decreasing speed below 1,6MB/sec.
Lol, wonders of Windows. I should try playing around with the speed (I run Linux) and see if I can fine tune it.
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Dukeblue5
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21. June 2006 @ 12:13 |
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Where do you go to get these things for that cheap? The cheapest I found was $30... which isn't horrible, but if I could find it for like $15... I'd rather go there obviously... I checked online at Bestbuy, Circuit City, CompUSA...
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21. June 2006 @ 12:17 |
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That's based on converting what I paid for here in New Zealand, and it was on special too. Have a look in eBay, but if you include shipping etc, it might come cloes to what you can find in stores? Sorry can't be more helpful as I'm in a different country :)
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Dukeblue5
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21. June 2006 @ 12:20 |
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No thats fine, you've been more than a enough help already
just wondering though, if I go buy one of these tonight... do I need anything to install the hard drive into??? Or will it just go in the enclosure like it does in the Network adapter... basically, do I need any other cables?
Once I have the hard drive installed in it... what do I do, just put it in the USB port, run Winhiip, and then I'll be able to install games in a few minutes??? Do I need to put the games on my laptop first with DVD Decrpyter? or can I burn straight from a CD with winhiip??
Then, once I have the games on... I'll be able to just startup my ps2 when i re-install the hard drive... run HD Loader, and the games will be there?
Just making sure I have this all down
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21. June 2006 @ 12:25 |
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just wondering though, if I go buy one of these tonight... do I need anything to install the hard drive into??? Or will it just go in the enclosure like it does in the Network adapter... basically, do I need any other cables?
The HDD enclosure comes with power and USB cable, so the answer is no you don't need anything else.
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Once I have the hard drive installed in it... what do I do, just put it in the USB port, run Winhiip, and then I'll be able to install games in a few minutes??? Do I need to put the games on my laptop first with DVD Decrpyter? or can I burn straight from a CD with winhiip??
Yep. There's no real advantage of ripping the game to your laptop first then install it. There's two choices when you install game(s) using Winhiip, you can install it either from an optical drive or image file, so either will work. But I'd say just do it from your DVD reader. Also sorry I forgot to mention that the 3-4 minutes I had was when the images are on my laptop already. Installing from a DVD reader will probably take a few more minutes (which is still a lot shorter than HDL Dump)
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Then, once I have the games on... I'll be able to just startup my ps2 when i re-install the hard drive... run HD Loader, and the games will be there?
Yep :)
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21. June 2006 @ 12:25 |
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Winhiip you can go straight from CD or DVD
but if the game can be shrunk or rebuilt I'd rebuild it anyways to save space on your HD
The Hard Drive Connects to the enclosure just like it does the PS2
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21. June 2006 @ 12:30 |
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but if the game can be shrunk or rebuilt I'd rebuild it anyways to save space on your HD
Lol, you know there's a reason I have two 200GB HDDs (apart from the fact that one PS2 is in my girlfriend's house permanently)
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MadBoomah
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21. June 2006 @ 12:31 |
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You don't need any special driver to install the USB Enclosure. IF you are using Windows XP, it should recognize it without a problem.
After you buy the enclosure all youd have to do is pop the drive in it, connect it to a USB port, fire up WinHIIP and select the drive from the list and it should see all the games installed on the drive.
From there, you should be able to install your games from ISOs or directly from your disc drive! You don't really need to read them first. Just pop it in the drive, select it in WinHIIP, choose the name you want it to be listed by in HDLoader, select the modes, etc, and have it upload it. IF you do more than 1 game at once though (this only applies to ISO files) you wont be able to set the game's name in HDL but you can always rename them later and also choose the modes :)
My enclosure is CompUSA branded and I bought it on sale for 15 bux or so I remember. It was the cheapest of the cheapest! lol It's silver, made out of aluminum and gray plastic and doesn't have the 1 button backup feature. It has the 400GB support on front (it probably has a sticker that says it doesn't include a hard drive over that very message lol).
That one I can assure you will work without a hitch for this. :)
PS2 V9 with Custom Flip Top
MC Exploit
ULaunchELF 3.78
HDLoader 0.8a with 160Gb Maxtor HDD
Nintendo GameCube DOL-001
XenoGC 2.0
POTS adjusted to 400Ohms from 496Ohms and runs everything thrown at it
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
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Dukeblue5
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21. June 2006 @ 12:37 |
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tmfloria... when you say shrunk and rebuilt... how do I do that?
I have DVD Shrink 3.1 on here because I have a DVD burner on this laptop... and I use that when burning DVDs... can I use this with my PS2 games to save room on my HD??? If so... how do I "rebuild" them?
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21. June 2006 @ 12:41 |
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Most games don't need rebuilding for it to work with HDD, in fact I've never rebuilt a game when I put them on my HDD, but if you really must, have a look here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/18/275350
Personally I'm too lazy to do that, and for me, close to 40 games on the HDD at one time is more than enough. I have DVD backups of my games so when I finish one game/games and I want to try different games I just install them from my DVD backups.
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MadBoomah
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21. June 2006 @ 12:44 |
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You don't really need to shrink the games unless you really need the space. Some games need to be shrunk for swapping purposes. Or to fit them in a DVD5 disc.
PS2 V9 with Custom Flip Top
MC Exploit
ULaunchELF 3.78
HDLoader 0.8a with 160Gb Maxtor HDD
Nintendo GameCube DOL-001
XenoGC 2.0
POTS adjusted to 400Ohms from 496Ohms and runs everything thrown at it
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
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21. June 2006 @ 12:52 |
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once you create an ISO with DVD Decrypter you use this program
http://www.alucard.cc/ps2/ExPERT_v1.03.rar
Here's how to use it.. it might not work for all games though.
Open the program.
1. Select the Shrinker_ps2_psp_CdDvd5_iso.epi on the plugins drop down list.
2. Select the iso you want to rebuild.
3. Click extract LBA.
4. Click extract file and wait for it to finish.
5. Click rebuild file and wait for it to finish.
6. Click rebuild LBA.
7. Burn the new iso with Nero or DVD Decrypter as usual.
Really easy takes no time at all and some games can be shrunk from 4gb down to 1gb or 2gb
http://list.ps2hd.com/ will tell you if a game is shrinkable (it may miss a few here and there)
also help you to know what modes to use in Winhiip
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Dukeblue5
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21. June 2006 @ 17:33 |
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Wait, you said burn with Nero or DVD Decrypter... do I have to burn it to a disk??? Can't I just do all this, then use Winhiip to install it on my Hard Drive with the HD enclosure (I bought one tonight... and I installed three games at about 4 minutes a piece... THANK YOU!!) But can't I just install the ISO through winhiip after going through those steps without actually burning it???
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21. June 2006 @ 17:36 |
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Wait, you said burn with Nero or DVD Decrypter... do I have to burn it to a disk??? Can't I just do all this, then use Winhiip to install it on my Hard Drive with the HD enclosure (I bought one tonight... and I installed three games at about 4 minutes a piece... THANK YOU!!) But can't I just install the ISO through winhiip after going through those steps without actually burning it???
The guide above is a general rebuilding guide - you don't need to burn it :) So you'll stop after you've rebuilt the image file, then instead of burning it to a disc, you install it with Winhiip like you said :)
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Dukeblue5
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21. June 2006 @ 20:10 |
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It didn't work... that site said that GTA San Andreas worked... but when I did it... it didn't shrink it at all...
Another question... I bought a 160GB hard drive... it says total space is 149GB... and I have 6 games on right now for a total of 23GB used... yet my total free space is 118GB... How does that make sense? Can you explain this? Thanks.
Either way... it's working great... and the HD enclosure is INCREDIBLE!!!
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21. June 2006 @ 23:19 |
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It didn't work... that site said that GTA San Andreas worked... but when I did it... it didn't shrink it at all...
You mean shrinking? I Never tried that so can't answer you...
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Another question... I bought a 160GB hard drive... it says total space is 149GB... and I have 6 games on right now for a total of 23GB used... yet my total free space is 118GB... How does that make sense? Can you explain this? Thanks.
Yeah the HDD needs a few GBs for system files, that sounds about right to me
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22. June 2006 @ 05:32 |
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The Gnie tool is only used on games that have a false LBA.. Which basicly makes the disc take up more space than it needs too...
Games can also have what are called Dummy files which are also used to take up space and make a game bigger than it actually is...
If you hover over the ? on the PsHD Site with San Andreas it tells you how to shrink the game by deleting a specific file and then rebuilding the game.. in this case it's not worth the trouble of rebuilding for 450mb of saved space...
Basicly how I know if a game has false LBA is i open the game in DVD Decrypter and I look at the size of the game...
I then open the disc in UltraIso and if under TOTAL SIZE the # is alot smaller than what it was in Decrypter I know it has false LBA and can be rebuilt with the gnie tool
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MadBoomah
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22. June 2006 @ 06:00 |
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Another way to see if a game is shrinkable is through Explorer. When you pop the disc in, go to the drive's Properties menu item in My Computer and it should tell you the big size. If you browse the disc, select all the files, then click Properties and it should tell you how big the game really is. If the difference in size is substantial, then you can definitely shrink it.
PS2 V9 with Custom Flip Top
MC Exploit
ULaunchELF 3.78
HDLoader 0.8a with 160Gb Maxtor HDD
Nintendo GameCube DOL-001
XenoGC 2.0
POTS adjusted to 400Ohms from 496Ohms and runs everything thrown at it
If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
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Paiin
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22. June 2006 @ 14:02 |
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I know someone probably already asked this, but I am dumb as hell atm, so my question is: Can I just get the PS2 USB Extreme Hard Drive Enabler Disc http://www.modmonster.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=12... as for I already have a large USB hd and would rather not go through the installing of an internal hd plus I do not have the money to screw up anything. . . lol, thank you all so much. . .
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22. June 2006 @ 14:34 |
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You can go with an external drive and USB Extreme.. But USB Extreme is only compatible with 6% of games
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Paiin
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22. June 2006 @ 14:37 |
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Darn, so thats a big no. . . . So probably just get an internal drive and a USB Case, cause there is no way that I can put an hd in my computer. . . Then follow all the above instructions, then hopefully it will all be good, and if I need help, I now know where to go.
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22. June 2006 @ 15:34 |
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yep internal HDD is the way to go :)
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Paiin
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22. June 2006 @ 15:36 |
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Can you reccommend any for a good price?
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22. June 2006 @ 15:46 |
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Seagate's a good brand, I got two of those and they work great. Have a look here: http://ps2drives.x-pec.com/ before you buy one (HDD compatibility chart)
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